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Invisiblefjbk47985
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Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker?
    #1867202 - 08/30/03 10:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

My PC Is broken and i don't plan on buying a new one since i grow rarely now.. (maybe like once a year) so couldn't i just use an oven? i mean it seems to get pretty damn hot in there.

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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: fjbk47985]
    #1867208 - 08/30/03 10:43 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Oven. Tek.

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    #1867493 - 08/31/03 12:44 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)


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Invisiblekoraks
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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: ]
    #1867705 - 08/31/03 02:55 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

If you intend to sterilize PF jars, I'd use a regular cooker ans steam-sterilize them. Works better (and easier) than an oven IMO. Though there are some people around that successfully used an oven for sterilizing jars, so it can be done.

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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: koraks]
    #1868048 - 08/31/03 10:42 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I think oven just works well for the sterilization of glassware, inoculation loops, tin foil, perlite and such things. It won?t work for grain.


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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: fjbk47985]
    #1868123 - 08/31/03 11:15 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

the high pressure inside the PC prevents the water inside it (and inside your jars) from boiling until they reach somewhere around 250 degrees F. at normal atmopheric pressure, it boils at a much lower temp.

even if your oven was set at 400 degrees, the water inside of it (as long as it was in a liquid state) could never get any hotter than around 212 degrees. it would reach its boiling point (212) and stay there until the water boiled out of the pot.

it won't work.

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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: ]
    #1868204 - 08/31/03 11:38 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Pasterize the ingrediants in the oven and then steam sterilize them in a pot of boiling water. 34 jars so far and 0 contams.


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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: Drippy]
    #1869047 - 08/31/03 06:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

An oven does get hot, but it doesn't have 20 lbs per square inch of pressure forcing the superheated steam into every single space of the substrate. Oven tek? I don't think one will work. Maybe boiling water works for some people, but I wouldn't recommend it. The amount of spores, jars, time and substrate mix you'd waste to contam would make it worth just buying anothe rpressure cooker/canner. Learn to can, it's a fun hobby in and of itself


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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: fjbk47985]
    #1869056 - 08/31/03 06:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

what you need to know is that at normal atmospheric pressure, boiling water will never get hotter than 212 degrees F. this isn't really hot enough to sterilize grain.

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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: ]
    #1869241 - 08/31/03 07:35 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed but if you have already pasturized the ingrediants inside the jar then you only need to kill anything that maybe on the edges of the jar.


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Invisiblekoraks
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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: Drippy]
    #1870646 - 09/01/03 06:58 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Uhm, what about ciste forming species, like wet rot? You won't get them killed by pasteurizing, not if they're on the inside and not if they're on the edges of the jar. You'll have to mangle them a bit more, e.g. pressure cooking or (long) steam sterilization.

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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: koraks]
    #1870745 - 09/01/03 08:50 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

you must be pretty hardcore to break a pressure cooker :smile: I wouldnt want to meet you in a dark alley

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Invisiblefjbk47985
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Re: Oven Instead Of Pressure Cooker? [Re: arex7tt]
    #1870766 - 09/01/03 09:11 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

damn straight  :devil:

btw..arex7tt: do u actually own an RX-7 TT ? 

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