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2ce is back (fox) * 1
    #18677489 - 08/08/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

this one cop in there actually seems to know what he's talking about and even how to use GC/MS... video on link

http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/23064517/old-drug-making-a-comeback-among-teens

GREENVILLE, SC (FOX Carolina) -

A new drug is making a comeback after being off the market for more than 10 years.

About 12 years ago, rave parties were all the rage. Many teenagers would attend for the music to dance and some would do drugs. Deputies with the Greenville County Sheriff's Office busted teens for alcohol and drugs at a party at a place called the Tomb back in 2001.

Back then ecstasy and what's called 2CE, named after the compounds that make the drug, were as hot as the glow sticks that enhanced users' psychedelic high. And now investigators say 2CE is back.

"Drugs come and go in cycles. They'll be popular for awhile and fade in popularity and come back. It's just one of those patterns that happens," Lt. Ashley Harris said.

Harris is a chemist with the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office. He sees what's being used on the street and uses a machine in the lab to test substances to see if they are illegal and he said he's seen some 2CE too.

"It comes off a backbone of family of chemicals called phenethylamine," Harris said. "It's a white fluffily powered, a lot of times it's sold in capsule form."

The drug is also known on the street as Europa and is sold in capsule and tablet forms.

"It can be a cartoon character, it can be a particular shape, they're always colorful," Harris said.

And even though the drug is now tagged as illegal on the DEA list of banned controlled substances, investigators said it's still being illegally sold online, which is easy access for teenagers.

A FOX Carolina crew found a website where a dealer promises the best prices for 2CE in bulk. It also states it will be packaged in a discreet manner. But Harris said there's nothing discreet about 2CE because it causes users to hallucinate.

"You'll hear a color or you'll see a sound, those kind of things," Harris said.

And Harris said he wants parents to be aware.

"You being involved in their life, then you'll know what they're involved in," Harris stated.

Investigators said another reason 2CE is being seen on the street again is because drug makers are mixing several different chemicals when they don't have the product to make ecstasy. And when users like the high, they request the drug again. Investigators say they are also monitoring websites that sell the drug.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: SurReality]
    #18677738 - 08/08/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This is great news! 

:datass:

I absolutely love 2CE. 
The best trip ever.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18677888 - 08/08/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

If it wasnt for that atrocious body load It would be my fav. RC. If only it felt like 2c-b on the body.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18678000 - 08/08/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

haven't tried either but 2ci, nice if not for the nausea/bodyload come up... i think i am one of the few who get a bodyload on all phens


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: SurReality]
    #18678021 - 08/08/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

im right there with ya sur. my body is pretty sensitive to phennies, mainly the 2c's. Love 2c-b though, really wanna try t-2 and t-7.
Tried 2c-e,2c-i,2c-p. and 2c-b and 2c-b was the only that did make me all :puke:

not literally puking but 2c-e makes me feel sooo disconnected from my innards.
although 50-75mg DPH 30-45 min before dosing 2c-e significantly reduces the body load.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Demonic_Chronic] * 1
    #18678042 - 08/08/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

when was 2ce ever off the market?

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Ogla]
    #18678135 - 08/08/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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this one cop in there actually seems to know what he's talking about and even how to use GC/MS...




That's because he's a chemist.  Says so right in the article!  :lol:

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18678439 - 08/08/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah a lot of people really tend to hate the 2ce body load


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18678512 - 08/08/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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when was 2ce ever off the market?




Yeah, this article is retarded.  Off the market for 10 years?  It was just scheduled in the past year or two. :facepalm:

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Yeah a lot of people really tend to hate the 2ce body load




I find it goes away almost completely within an hour or two.  Just bothersome on the come-up, IME.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Society]
    #18678570 - 08/08/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I find that snorting 2CE reduces the uncomfortable body load by about 80%.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: SurReality]
    #18678740 - 08/08/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for spreading the good news :awedance:

I haven't seen 2C's on the street in a while!

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18678895 - 08/08/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

zipper my mouther


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: SurReality]
    #18679324 - 08/08/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

hahah, no one else noticed that the chemist is a dude named ASHLEY!!! what the fuck were his parents thinking?


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: jack_straw2208]
    #18679428 - 08/08/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Not as bad as a Boy Named Sue (Johnny Cash).

"My name is Sue,
How do you do?
Now yer gonna die!"



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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18679499 - 08/08/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

2C-E was always just a topping for me.  I'd usually use a few mg of 2C-E on top a full dose of either 2C-I or 2C-C.  Shulgin calling it difficult material, and I suspect he knows what he's talking about, always disuaded me from taking a full dose of 2C-E.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: dokunai]
    #18679714 - 08/08/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Haha this is really crazy. Im from Greenville and still live near and the doses that are going around are 2-ce! They are mushroom stamp and then Mario pluses that are orange. Also are caps that are orange, and some plain white. The orange caps are being called sunshine. I tried it once and holy fucking cow that shit is nuts. 2-ce is eh not my fav for sure. Ive been trying to stay away from RCs though, theres a bunch of kids that sell them around Greenville though. Idk why they sell it as acid fucking tards and taxers.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: dokunai]
    #18680030 - 08/08/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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2C-E was always just a topping for me.  I'd usually use a few mg of 2C-E on top a full dose of either 2C-I or 2C-C.  Shulgin calling it difficult material, and I suspect he knows what he's talking about, always disuaded me from taking a full dose of 2C-E.




Shulgin's opinion is one man's opinion.  I believe most experienced trippers would cite that 2C-E is one of the least difficult psychedelics, at least mentally.  The "mindfuck" of LSD and most tryptamines is a bit more intense, looking at a breadth of anecdotal data.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Society]
    #18680692 - 08/08/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

SuperNarc! save us! (gnashing of teeth and groaning of incarcerated, followed by cheers of the crowd, saved from the scourge of pure chemicals!)..

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: DAVID_ALLAN_CEO]
    #18680938 - 08/08/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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SuperNarc! save us! (gnashing of teeth and groaning of incarcerated, followed by cheers of the crowd, saved from the scourge of pure chemicals!)..




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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: DAVID_ALLAN_CEO]
    #18680975 - 08/08/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Does 2ce come on blotter? (I know there is powder form too) i had a friend who said he had it on blotter, and i thought threshold effects were dosed way to high to fit on a blotter, so i assumed it was Nbome.


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    #18681062 - 08/08/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Doubt it can come on blotter.  Too many mg per dose.  You can gel tab it thou

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Ogla]
    #18681436 - 08/09/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

2C-B is drastically better than 2c-e imo, but 2c-e is good in its own way though I guess, its not very 'deep' I feel, im sure some will disagree, but the bodyload from high dose is enough to make me not want to do more.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: SurReality]
    #18681442 - 08/09/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I get a body load on phens too especially the NBOMe's they make my stomach go crazy on the come up.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Society]
    #18681672 - 08/09/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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2C-E was always just a topping for me.  I'd usually use a few mg of 2C-E on top a full dose of either 2C-I or 2C-C.  Shulgin calling it difficult material, and I suspect he knows what he's talking about, always disuaded me from taking a full dose of 2C-E.




Shulgin's opinion is one man's opinion.  I believe most experienced trippers would cite that 2C-E is one of the least difficult psychedelics, at least mentally.  The "mindfuck" of LSD and most tryptamines is a bit more intense, looking at a breadth of anecdotal data.





No way, 2CE is way more like "holy shit what is going on, this is weird" + very uncomfortable headache/bodyload + way too speedy. At least IME. I get way more euphoria off tryptamines, the trip makes much more sense, and I don't feel like I got hit by a train the next day.

That being said, I did alot of 2CE when you could just legally buy it on the internet, and in the begining it was great, "you have to try this, it's like a different kind of acid!". A bunch of people did try it with me, we all found the bodyload to increase the more frequently we did it, to the point where our trips were just bright colors and pain (a bit of an exaggeration, but you get the point).


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Ogla]
    #18681678 - 08/09/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Doubt it can come on blotter.  Too many mg per dose. 



Way too bitter too.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #18681691 - 08/09/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

i don't think something can be to bitter to put on blotter.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: SurReality]
    #18681703 - 08/09/13 06:27 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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i don't think something can be to bitter to put on blotter.



I suppose you could put it on there smartass, but no one would want to eat it, and you couldn't fit enough on a 1X1 cm square to do much.

I think all that goes without saying though....


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    #18681843 - 08/09/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

i don't see how the taste would effect someone wanting to eat it or not if you could get the dose on a standard size blotter. i always just chase DOC with a drink, so i would do the same with anything that was bitter.


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    #18682009 - 08/09/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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2C-E was always just a topping for me.  I'd usually use a few mg of 2C-E on top a full dose of either 2C-I or 2C-C.  Shulgin calling it difficult material, and I suspect he knows what he's talking about, always disuaded me from taking a full dose of 2C-E.




Shulgin's opinion is one man's opinion.  I believe most experienced trippers would cite that 2C-E is one of the least difficult psychedelics, at least mentally.  The "mindfuck" of LSD and most tryptamines is a bit more intense, looking at a breadth of anecdotal data.





No way, 2CE is way more like "holy shit what is going on, this is weird" + very uncomfortable headache/bodyload + way too speedy. At least IME. I get way more euphoria off tryptamines, the trip makes much more sense, and I don't feel like I got hit by a train the next day.

That being said, I did alot of 2CE when you could just legally buy it on the internet, and in the begining it was great, "you have to try this, it's like a different kind of acid!". A bunch of people did try it with me, we all found the bodyload to increase the more frequently we did it, to the point where our trips were just bright colors and pain (a bit of an exaggeration, but you get the point).




Interesting.  This has not been my experience at all.  I would feel comfortable in public with anything <20-25mg or so.  I cannot say the same about LSD or mushrooms or most tryps.  I have used it quite over the last several years and my trips have actually improved, in terms of bodyload and mental functions.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Society]
    #18682130 - 08/09/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

never tried 2C-E but back in the days just before the Operation Web Tryp hammer fell I ordered some 2C-I and it was hands down one of the best entheogenic experiences I've had to date.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18693273 - 08/11/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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SuperNarc! save us! (gnashing of teeth and groaning of incarcerated, followed by cheers of the crowd, saved from the scourge of pure chemicals!)..




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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: jonsnow]
    #18694235 - 08/12/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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never tried 2C-E but back in the days just before the Operation Web Tryp hammer fell I ordered some 2C-I and it was hands down one of the best entheogenic experiences I've had to date.




2C's are not entheogens.


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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #18694971 - 08/12/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I guess that depends upon your definition of entheogen.

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Re: 2ce is back (fox) [Re: jonsnow]
    #18698061 - 08/13/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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I guess that depends upon your definition of entheogen.




I guess you're right. They are entheogens, I thought entheogens were specifically natural substances. Sorry bro!


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