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Psilosopherr
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: KT-BC]
#18655681 - 08/03/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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KT-BC said: so.. they would have to kill more children for you to see it justifiable for that person to get the death penalty? 
Yep.
They didn't write anything about the circumstances. Not much justifies killing a kid, but maybe she was on meth or something. Not that that makes it better I just wanna know.
heres a hypothetical for you.......
okay so you an your wife are smoking grass while your child is asleep and a neighbor smells it and calls the police on you. you admit to smoking and the state takes your child. the foster parent kills your child. beats it to death. now, your telling me..you, personally wouldn't want equal justice for the sake of your child ? hell most people would want to take the life of the murderer themselves.
so honestly, if you were the parent of that child, you wouldn't want that person killed?
and why would her being on drugs matter at all. if anything it makes it worse. state takes child from pot smokers and gives to meth smoking murderers..
I take an eye for an eye makes the world blind to heart. But I don't know what its like to have kids. I'd be furious with CPS and the murderer.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18655910 - 08/03/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is horrible. its bullshit that you can get your kid taken away for smoking marijuana that is fucking insane
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: allseeingike]
#18655924 - 08/03/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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allseeingike said: this is horrible. its bullshit that you can get your kid taken away for smoking marijuana that is fucking insane
yeah its fucked.
I had a pregnant friend a while back. It came down to, if she smoked weed and failed a pee test, she wouldn't get food stamps. Pretty sure thats what it was..
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18656097 - 08/03/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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The American drug war experiment.... "Destroying lives since 1985."
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: leon trout]
#18656169 - 08/03/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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My mom works with Fostercare. It's really upsetting. She had to train new foster parents in our area. So many of them were horrible. She said some classes it seemed that more than half wouldn't even be approved and some that were were only in it for money. It's really disturbing. It's unfortunate she can't only approve the outstanding ones, but they're already at a point that they don't have enough space to place kids. I could almost cry from some of the stories she told me. There would be sibling groups of four that had to be split up. I'd tell her that's more traumatic than living in an abusive home. There was nothing she could do though. It just sucks.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: manomanom]
#18656511 - 08/03/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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As terrible as what happened to this child and couple is, I bet they are still lucky. Don't get mad, I mean lucky in the same sense that someone who is paralyzed from the waist down is luckier than someone who is paralyzed from the neck down. If the police had found sufficient quantities of any contraband substance to charge them with distribution, they likely would have lost their home as well.
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manomanom said: The American drug war experiment.... "Destroying lives since 1985."
More like circa 1970.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: dokunai]
#18656898 - 08/04/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is insane and tragic what happened, however I think its wrong for parents, the people who are responsible for the welfare and protection of a kid to be smoking weed around them. Its not like they didnt Knowthat they could have their kid taken away as a result.
To me it seems like doing drugs as easily smellable as weed would be a no brainer.....I wouldnt do it because my kids safety and welfare would trump getting high.
It doesnt matter how harmless weed may be its still illegal. And if your caring for kids and smoking pot this type of situation is a very possible scenario.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18657647 - 08/04/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I take an eye for an eye makes the world blind to heart. But I don't know what its like to have kids. I'd be furious with CPS and the murderer.
You should also take to heart that Gandhi considered himself a failure, after the 'independence' of India the country faced civil war, partition and continued economic colonialism from England. All he accomplished was giving people who haven't studied his life and work catch phrases
MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but segregation ended due to the massive demand for it to end not one man.
Basically what I'm saying, is it doesn't matter what Gandhi said. Eye for an Eye is justice
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Menalaus]
#18658016 - 08/04/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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murder charges aren't enough--- they need to tack on one count of child abuse for every foster child the people ever had in their entire lives.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Menalaus] 1
#18658041 - 08/04/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I take an eye for an eye makes the world blind to heart. But I don't know what its like to have kids. I'd be furious with CPS and the murderer.
You should also take to heart that Gandhi considered himself a failure, after the 'independence' of India the country faced civil war, partition and continued economic colonialism from England. All he accomplished was giving people who haven't studied his life and work catch phrases
MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but segregation ended due to the massive demand for it to end not one man.
Basically what I'm saying, is it doesn't matter what Gandhi said. Eye for an Eye is justice
Just because he can't keep a nation peaceful his philosophies are wrong?
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18658142 - 08/04/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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More because of the actual contents of his philosophies, are you familiar with satyagraha have you read any of his books? Maybe you have but its more often than not that people will quote the guy without knowing anything about him
Gandhi's philosophy was a fairy tale, that's why it didn't work, that's why it doesn't matter what he said.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Menalaus]
#18658157 - 08/04/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Menalaus said: More because of the actual contents of his philosophies, are you familiar with satyagraha have you read any of his books? Maybe you have but its more often than not that people will quote the guy without knowing anything about him
Gandhi's philosophy was a fairy tale, that's why it didn't work, that's why it doesn't matter what he said.
I honestly don't know alot about the guy, I just remember some scenes from a movie about him.
Doesn't tarnish the eye for an eye thing for me tho. I still love those words.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18658169 - 08/04/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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To each their own, not trying to crash anyone's parade but I've been up for 2 days now. Gandhi was a good guy even if I think his philosophy was impractical
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Menalaus]
#18658934 - 08/04/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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This article just ruined my fucking day................. . I think it's time for another flood, God.........
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: casablanca]
#18659194 - 08/04/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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casablanca said: This article just ruined my fucking day................. . I think it's time for another flood, God.........
Assuming there's a god and that a flood actually occurred this would still be a bad wish. All it would accomplish is resetting everything and replaying over everything that man has created. Some things would turn out a little differently, but these same scenarios would still happen.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Bawks]
#18659563 - 08/04/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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its wrong, no one is saying its not.
not all of us agree with 'a life for a life'
if it was my kid i might feel differently.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Rewindicus]
#18660774 - 08/04/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: It is insane and tragic what happened, however I think its wrong for parents, the people who are responsible for the welfare and protection of a kid to be smoking weed around them. Its not like they didnt Knowthat they could have their kid taken away as a result.
To me it seems like doing drugs as easily smellable as weed would be a no brainer.....I wouldnt do it because my kids safety and welfare would trump getting high.
It doesnt matter how harmless weed may be its still illegal. And if your caring for kids and smoking pot this type of situation is a very possible scenario.
They admitted to smoking weed while she was asleep. I hear ya though, if I ever had kids I'd never smoke with anyone again. I'd smoke but I'd make sure everyone thought I was clean and never take a chance of smoking near people, let alone my kid. This is so fucked....People drink around their kids without having them taken away.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18661745 - 08/05/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dystopia said: Death penalty for child killers yea, what's wrong with you? Ever lose a kid?
No I've never lost a kid.
I just can't wrap my mind around deciding someone dies for their crime. If they do this more than once then i could start to see it.
Jesus fucking christ dude do you even think?
With the evidence they have I would fucking lock this bitch in a room with both the parents and blunt objects.
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Re: State Seizes Two-Year-Old Child From Parents Because They Smoked Pot, Child Dies in Foster Care [Re: leon trout]
#18662327 - 08/05/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bobdamn, CPS is some kind of fucked up.
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