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How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone?
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So, I'm beginning to fall for my neighbor, even though she's moving cross state in 6 weeks or so.

I give compliments/hints, and they are either ignored, or she just gets a blank look and says "why?"
We text sweet dreams at night, and I sort of held/played with her hand the other day while she drove. (It was mutual, I just initiated, and she smiled the whole time.)
She parked at her apt, and I walked with her to her door, thinking we might have had a breakthrough, and well, honestly, the skin contact kinda made me horny.
I said "Wanna hang out a while?"
She said no, and went in.

Grrr.

Any advice?

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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hit it and quit it sir :nono:


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Just kiss her, if she turns you down then fuck it

Do it when you're on a walk or something, not in the car or at her doorstep

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Repertoire89]
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The friend zone. Been there before, but never again except when i want to be.
Once you're in there, it is very hard to get out of. It is much more effective to avoid being put in there. To get out of there you will have to do some things you may not be comfortable doing, and it will change the complete dynamic of you current relationship with her; and then there is the possibility she won't respond well to such an abrupt change and end the friendship.

Repertoire89 said:
Just kiss her, if she turns you down then fuck it


If you want to skip the hard work, you could do this and it might actually work. It will cause a friction between the two of you that may be the exact abrupt change needed. Don't ask, just grab her when things seem nice, and kiss rape her. If things don't go down well; make sure you go out that night with some other friends, and pick up; or at the very least associate with heaps of women, but make sure you get some pictures and post them on Facebook. This neighbor will see the pictures and be intrigued. She will begin to want you, and then it's up to you. If you do any of this, keep us updated. :smile:


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Magenta] * 2
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From the limited information you've given it sounds like she knows you're interested and she's not.

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: pwnasaurus] * 1
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You're screwed :shrug:


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: pwnasaurus]
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pwnasaurus said:
From the limited information you've given it sounds like she knows you're interested and she's not.


That's the feeling I get too, but the question to me is why... She won't admit either way, or give a reason.

I ask things like this via text message, and she never responds. If I ask if she wants to hit a blunt, she usually responds faster than light.

Trying to decide how "romantic" I should be. She's moving, so a serious LTR is off the table. I told her I wanted something "less serious... Kinda casual" and her eyes glazed over.

Of course this was 5 minutes after telling her I thought she was sexy, and told her point blank I was interested, and she should 'consider me'. She admitted I hadn't even crossed her mind.

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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confidence

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: JesusGoneRogue] * 3
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Realize that not everyone who you want to sleep with wants to sleep with you and get over it.

Bang some other girl who actually likes you.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: 36fuckin5] * 1
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It's called xanax and a big dick


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
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shes cool with ya, but looking for a real BF.
id suggest , ya search out a new one.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said:
pwnasaurus said:
From the limited information you've given it sounds like she knows you're interested and she's not.


That's the feeling I get too, but the question to me is why... She won't admit either way, or give a reason.

I ask things like this via text message, and she never responds. If I ask if she wants to hit a blunt, she usually responds faster than light.

Trying to decide how "romantic" I should be. She's moving, so a serious LTR is off the table. I told her I wanted something "less serious... Kinda casual" and her eyes glazed over.

Of course this was 5 minutes after telling her I thought she was sexy, and told her point blank I was interested, and she should 'consider me'. She admitted I hadn't even crossed her mind.


You blew it with all that straight talk and asking questions. Should've just kissed her.

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said:
That's the feeling I get too, but the question to me is why... She won't admit either way, or give a reason.


Anonymous said:
I ask things like this via text message, and she never responds. If I ask if she wants to hit a blunt, she usually responds faster than light.



There it is OP. She's using you. You've probably been too agreeable/suck ars to her. Be a badass, stop offering/giving her things in exchange for her attention; and instead when she asks for weed ect, make her do stuff for you in exchange for the goods. I don't necessarily mean sexual stuff; even simple stuff like she has to go grab a drink at the pub with you first (don't buy her drinks though).
By doing this, what you're doing is making her earn the gift. If she says no, she's not doing that. Act cool and say, something like,
'that's ok, i'll go to the pub with someone else instead'.
(that's still using the pub example. It takes the focus off the gift, and instead puts it on her working for your affection, opposed to the previous reverse order: and even better, it implies you don't need her.) Don't worry about being mean, she'll be back in touch with you. Be careful though about making empty threats, she might be in touch with you sooner than you thought, to see if you're at the pub and she may even want to meet up; so what ever you threat, try to go through with it, or you might be caught out, which would completely blow your chances.
This will make you the dominant one in the interaction and she'll instantly become curious about you, which normally leads to attraction if you play your cards right.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Magenta]
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Run as far away as possible. you dont want to end up in the friendzone deadzone. thats when all chances of a relationship are gone but now youre a "best friend"

run. run very fast.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Hakim0777] * 1
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Hakim0777 said:
but now youre a "best friend"


OPs one step from being a homosexual

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Edited by spore baby (12/13/14 01:52 AM)

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Don't chase women, let them come to you.

If you are constantly texting her with blunt questions like "do you like me?", etc, and complimenting her at every chance you get, then you're likely coming across as weak, needy, or desperate. That shit will almost always kill the vibe for a woman.

That's real nice and all that touching her hand gives you a boner, but it hardly guarantees that it even means anything to her. You've made it clear to her what your feelings are, and she hasn't responded positively. Don't kid yourself dude. It sounds like the signs are all there. No point in being dense about it.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Soularize]
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Soularize said:
Don't chase women, let them come to you.

If you are constantly texting her with blunt questions like "do you like me?", etc, and complimenting her at every chance you get, then you're likely coming across as weak, needy, or desperate. That shit will almost always kill the vibe for a woman.

That's real nice and all that touching her hand gives you a boner, but it hardly guarantees that it even means anything to her. You've made it clear to her what your feelings are, and she hasn't responded positively. Don't kid yourself dude. It sounds like the signs are all there. No point in being dense about it.



Move on.  Don't get hung up on one girl if you are not getting anything back from her.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: baraka]
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You can get out of the friend zone and it takes work. 1. Be aloof, and make sure your body language doesn't give you away and be confident. 2. Girl has to acknowledge that other girls want you 3. Break the touch barrier. Subtly, very very subtly or else it's creepy. Her hands, or anywhere else it ain't creepy. 4. Turn the tables. Girl has to feel like its her idea to go after you. 5. Don't make it seem you're trying to wife her up. Just sexual attraction and keep it at that or else you'll never come out of the friend zone

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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OP, there are no easy options for you.  You are going to have to man up and do something outside your comfort zone.  There are no concrete ways out of the friend zone; you done got yourself in some really shitty territory to be in.

In my experience, the best way out is through jealousy.  And im not talking about willy nilly shit, you need to lay it the fuck on.

The first hint you ever dropped she got the picture, women are extremely intuitive.  Dropping additional hints just makes you look desperate.  So first, never drop a fucking compliment or hint ever fucking again!  All of that shit you’ve been texting her STOP!  I fucking mean it!  You don’t do that shit until well into a relationship, until then you keep her guessing!

Ok, so you’re not texting her as much and you aren’t actively pursuing her.  Hit her up every once in a while, tell her a funny joke, have a conversation whatever.  Tell her you ran into a chick that you used to be crushing on hard at a coffee shop and had an awesome conversation with her, and you’re excited because you’re going on a date with her next weekend.

Now im only guessing, but you probably come off as a fairly inexperienced dude.  So when you’re telling this next story don’t go crazy acting like you were mister dominant Alpha dog with this chick because it’s probably not congruent with your personality. 
Now, next time you hang out with neighbor girl she might ask how the date went (this is a good sign), that’s when you say.  Oh my god it was the fucking craziest thing of my life, but I really shouldn’t talk about it (with a big smirk on your face.)  If she tries to drag it out of you that’s a good sign.  This is when you tell her that you guys got pretty buzzed and stumbled back to her place where you started making out on her couch.  One thing led to another and before you knew it she was mounting you and going wild.  Before that night you didn’t even know a girl could cum that many times!  Just when you thought it was over she asked you if you knew how to make a girl squirt, you said no, she said don’t worry I’ll show you.

So you get on your knees while she’s on the couch and she shows you how to thrust your finger inside her just right and she starts going fucking wild, you do it harder and harder until finally she has this massive squirting orgasm and convulses so much that she falls off of the couch and on top of you screaming and twitching as you lay there helpless for the next few minutes.
You go on to tell her that ever since that night the girl has been hitting you up constantly but you’re not sure what to think.  You like her but she’s starting to act kind of needy, on the other hand she is a total freak which isn’t a bad thing (smirk), but you’re not sure what to do.

See what kind of advice neighbor girl gives you on the situation.  If you have the balls to do this report back and I’ll give you the next step.

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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didn't read thread.
friend zone is myth.
if it's not the right time or person it's not the right time or person.

Get Over Your Ego.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: collinZzZz]
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get plastic surgery
get buff (or fit)
make a fuck ton of money
be good in bed
become a chick magnet while still being there for her and maintaining that same personality that she likes about you

suddenly you will find that she will slowly start to fall madly and obsessively in love with you lol

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous said:
Before that night you didn't even know a girl could cum that many times!


:lol: do you really think this is all necessary? Could you not leave it at something like "She was a very good lay, one of the best I ever had. She's such a freak in bed!" :shrug:.

BTW if he ends up fucking his neighbour how fast do you think that relationship will fall through when she asks him to make her squirt like he did with this other chick you made up and he just sits there with this confused and worried look on his face? :lol:

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: gulper2323]
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gulper2323 said:
Anonymous said:
Before that night you didn't even know a girl could cum that many times!


:lol: do you really think this is all necessary? Could you not leave it at something like "She was a very good lay, one of the best I ever had. She's such a freak in bed!" :shrug:.
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Your version focuses on his experience, not the woman's.  Not only that but it's vague as hell, it could mean anything. :facepalm3:  Neither of your comments convey the earth-shattering pleasure that he gave to this other woman.  They only convey his own pleasure which is subjective.. 

Listen, when a baker gives directions on how to bake a cake he doesn't have time to go into all the chemistry and theory involved behind his recipe.  You simply do exactly what he says, and you get the cake.  You don't necessarily need to know how all the ingredients work as long as you don't deviate from the recipe you dig?  So to answer your question, yes its all necessary.

Anybody can make a girl squirt, if he needs to know how he can learn.  It would be very unlikely for her to ask anyway, at least until they are in an LTR.

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
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Well, time for an update.

I picked up on most of the advice...

I started hanging out with female friends/exes in plain sight, even having one pick me up while we were hanging out on her porch, several times overnight.

I'd answer texts only, and keep them short...

After a few days, I started texting her late at night (sometimes drunk, sometimes not, but not  desperate.) Just to chat, feel her out.

She texted some pretty blatant innuendos, I'd respond with things along the lines of Yea, I like you, sure, but I'm going to stop wasting my time soon.

Meanwhile, breaking the touch barrier at nearly every opportunity.

Yesterday, she mentioned she was going out and asked what i was doing.

Long story short, We smoked a blunt, and I went with her and her friend to a couple bars.

Her (married) friend decided to go home with a guy, and we kept the party going and I drove.

We had fun, flirted, but the usual, other than she seemed to pay slightly more attention.

After, i drove her home, and touched hands and stuff which was kinda normal. Before we went in, she said something along the lines of "Come on in, we'll smoke that blunt, and whatever happens, happens."

O.o

Ended up smoking it, running into another guy neighbor (that she texted, not that I cared.)
We went over to his apt, played spades for like 5 hours, smoked another blunt or two, then she was ready to leave.

We went in her apt, but she was pretty adamant that I left.

I told her I left my key at home and was locked out until my romate got home. (Of course, wasn't true.)

Long story short, we pretty much acted out the story that i was supposed to tell her, except instead of falling off the couch, i caught her before she fell out of the bed... Oh, and no squirting, but she gushed while she rode me so much she had to change her sheets. She also said she was cold because she was "scared of the feelings she had for me." I spent the night, but it was really only like 2 hours.

Next question bugging me... How should I behave now?

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
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Crystal G said:
get plastic surgery
get buff (or fit)
make a fuck ton of money
be good in bed
become a chick magnet while still being there for her and maintaining that same personality that she likes about you

suddenly you will find that she will slowly start to fall madly and obsessively in love with you lol


in other words, be a superficial tool and as inauthentic as possible. should work out :raveface:


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Crystal G]
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There's no easy way to get out of the friendzone OP. You have not get in there in the first place. You have to try and charm the pants off her when you first meet, generate some attraction/sexual tension.

Think of it like this:

* If you're forward and don't get rejected you have your prize. (relationship, sex, whatever)
* If you're forward and do get rejected you can still become friends or even try again later.
* If you're not forward you may become "just friends" but have no chance and anything more.

Time to start womanizing man, it's good for the psyche. Why worry about getting friendzoned if you know there a plethora of lovely ladies falling over themselves for you?

Crystal G said:
become a chick magnet while still being there for her and maintaining that same personality that she likes about you

suddenly you will find that she will slowly start to fall madly and obsessively in love with you lol


This is good advice. If your friend sees that girls are literally falling over themselves for you she'll surely re-evaluate her reasoning behind friendzoning you.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
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And there you go; another guy allowed to bust a nut in a chick because of the advice he got from the Shroomery  :highfive:

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: gulper2323]
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Moral of the story: there is NO FUCKING FRIENDZONE.

Its a convenient lie guys tell themselves when they dont know how to make the right moves.

Act like a man,
the end.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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gulper2323 said:
And there you go; another guy allowed to bust a nut in a chick because of the advice he got from the Shroomery  :highfive:


^^ Fuck yeah!
Anonymous said:
Long story short, we pretty much acted out the story that i was supposed to tell her, except instead of falling off the couch, i caught her before she fell out of the bed... Oh, and no squirting, but she gushed while she rode me so much she had to change her sheets. She also said she was cold because she was "scared of the feelings she had for me."




Anonymous said:
Next question bugging me... How should I behave now?


You've done well. What do you want from her. A relationship, fuck buddies or just friends?

You've already accelerated the sexuality between you. If you want to just remain fuck buddies then just keep doing what you're doing and don't talk about your sexual relations that you have with this girl, with other people. You've managed to make her feel comfortable enough to go that far with you. Talking about it with your mates will blow it for you.
If you want to engage in a relationship then you'll probably have to lift your game. You'll need to create a lot of rapport, and then for best results, you simply need to make your self the best option.
If you just want a friend ship, and no more sex, then stop touching immediately, and make sure all your conversations are not funny.


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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Edited by spore baby (12/20/14 02:05 AM)

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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JesusIsLord said:
Crystal G said:
get plastic surgery
get buff (or fit)
make a fuck ton of money
be good in bed
become a chick magnet while still being there for her and maintaining that same personality that she likes about you

suddenly you will find that she will slowly start to fall madly and obsessively in love with you lol


in other words, be a superficial tool and as inauthentic as possible. should work out :raveface:


:lol: her post reminds me of the great Gatsby, mine as well add "sell your soul to the devil"

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Re: How does a shy guy get out of the friend zone? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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We guys usually know when we're friend zoned especially when we really like the girl. i've gotten myself in the friend zone and i have gotten myself out. I'm not bad looking and i have my own place , car and make a living. the problem was I was courting the girl and if shes was a helpless romantic it wouldve worked , but nowadays girls are all about attraction. She made up her mind about you. What you have to do is throw her off. Throw curveballs at her that makes her consider changing the way she thinks of you. Bold and extremely unpredictable will make her reconsider you completely. Then when you get to that point you have to attract her and NOT court her. Look confident, if you even fake being confident you will become confident. Shoulders back look straight and NEVER look down at the floor. Keep eye contact but not an empty dead stare. Keep your hand out of your pockets. Look your best. Don't have to be the hottest guy ever just try, but don't make seem like you're trying too hard. Smell very good , and don't go using your dads cologne, I mean invest in a fresh designer scent. Build rapport, consistent communication. Girls have a short attenion span since guys are on them like flys on poop. Give her space but dont exaggerate. Never end a conversation on a boring note, never. She'll remember you as boring, end your encounters or phone call or texting on a high note always. Girls love banter, playful teasing, but don't over do it. Borderline jerk but make sure it's playful or else you'll really be a jerk to her. You have to break the touch barrier (hands elbow waist) but you have to be really careful and subtle or else you'll look like a creep. Scarcity, you can't make yourself seem too available. Get good at these and you can have any girl you want. Do not court a girl, attract her. Reject everyone else's negativity and think positive thoughts. Now go get her. I would wish you good luck but if you're smart you won't need it

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