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seanbomb1
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Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...?
#18632413 - 07/30/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi there, basically 12 days ago I put 3 quarts spawn into a monotub with coir and verm. 12 days in and it seems to be getting there but not the whole top is covered with myc, mainly just big spots and the rest has a small amount of myc covering it.
I DID however put a casing layer and just read on a thread that you dont need to let the casing fully colonize? If this is the case can I go into fruiting now with my tub?
Here are pic, not easy to see as hard to take them with reflections or whatever showing. There is a lot more myc in reality than the pics.

Thanks.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: seanbomb1]
#18632426 - 07/30/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you should wait for pins.
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seanbomb1
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: Diamonds808]
#18632436 - 07/30/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Will I get pins eventhough I have the holes covered with duct tape? Thought you needed FAE to get pins
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: seanbomb1]
#18633286 - 07/30/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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wait for pins and yes you will see some start before you open to introduce to air.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: alex591955]
#18633320 - 07/30/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How are you fruiting it? Just remove tape and add polyfil or are you placing in a GH? I'd say place it in fruiting conditions in maybe 5-7 days? Should see slight pinning by then or some hyphal knots.. looking good!
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: 95_grand] 1
#18633336 - 07/30/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the substrate is fully colonized, you can fruit it.
No need to wait for pins.
No need for consolidation with bulk substrates.
Untape the holes and stuff them with polyfill, tight on the bottom and loose in the top holes.
Fan out the chamber one good time with the lid and you should be good to go.
Of course you should give it direct 6500k lighting on a 12/12.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18633355 - 07/30/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think everybody above except hacker is confusing high-nutrient subs like PF cakes with low-nutrient bulk.
Consolidate cakes. Fruit bulk at 100%.
FAE is your main pinning trigger and colonization occurs evenly through bulk (assuming you mixed your spawn evenly).
There is no need to wait for pins, it will only give you more aborts and a less healthy first flush IMO.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18633367 - 07/30/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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A casing should not be allowed to fully colonize. Ideally you want myc to poke thru the surface of the casing evenly like fine threads- over about 80% of the surface. If an area of casing gets thicker with myc, then you should apply a patch of fresh casing material while the rest of the tub catches up.
I don't use a light cycle, never have. Mostly I leave the lights on until I see pins, after introducing to fruiting conditions. I think my current light is a 30watt softbulb. I have never been picky about light either, as long as the light does not make my FC too hot.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: Gretchenmeister] 1
#18633403 - 07/30/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OH shit, stoned Frank misses a crucial point. Thanks Gretch!
OP, disregard some of my previous statement: fruit that thing. Casing layers should only partially colonize before fruiting.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18633417 - 07/30/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
FrankHorrigan said: OH shit, stoned Frank misses a crucial point. Thanks Gretch!
Me too....damn.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: PussyFart]
#18633682 - 07/30/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay thanks for the info guys! Going to fruit it now. Also once I put the polyfill in the holes now. Do I need to do anything else right away? Like add the lights ( I have 30w cfl 6500k lights) or mist or should it be good for now?
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: PussyFart]
#18633709 - 07/30/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said: Untape the holes and stuff them with polyfill, tight on the bottom and loose in the top holes.
Fan out the chamber one good time with the lid and you should be good to go.
Of course you should give it direct 6500k lighting on a 12/12.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: PussyFart]
#18633718 - 07/30/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry should have read it more aha. Just opened the lid and there are pins already! Just couldnt see from the condensation and reflection of light.
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: seanbomb1]
#18633719 - 07/30/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: seanbomb1]
#18634935 - 07/30/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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They look pretty colonized... You could start them now, but it would probably be better to wait a couple more days until its just a bit more solid. Try and peek on the underneath of the tub and see if thats also totally colonized. If it is, I'd say go for it.
Mine hardly ever start pinning before I take the tape off... And sometimes they get so solid and colonized that they have a hard time pinning when I do eventually introduce fruiting conditions.
However, if you do it too early you won't get nearly as big of a yield...
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Re: Day 12 monotub. Should I put into fruiting now...? [Re: LolaEve]
#18651855 - 08/02/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Put monotub into fruiting 3 days ago. Just introduced 6500k lights a day ago as was waiting on sockets being delivered.
Got a few big shrooms on the go and counted in total 65 shrooms. at work just now but will post pics soon! Also when will I know when to pick the shrooms as a few will be done before the rest.
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