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RogerRabbit
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: Violet]
#18944848 - 10/07/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess it fits the age-old adage which says the more we learn about something, the more we learn how little we actually do know.
It's kind of like trying to figure out why a dog will ride in a car with his head out the window at 60 mph, but if you gently blow into his face he'll go nuts. RR
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Violet
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#18945921 - 10/07/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: It's kind of like trying to figure out why a dog will ride in a car with his head out the window at 60 mph, but if you gently blow into his face he'll go nuts. RR
Hilarious! Ya it's about exactly like that!
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SupaThaRipper
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: Violet]
#18946151 - 10/07/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: I hate penis
Sorry.
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eLeSDenes
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#18975562 - 10/14/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use a lot of spawn in my bulk sub and i get so many blobs. I use coco coir, verm and gypsum. I thought that high spawn rate would increase colonization time and improve the quality of fruits. Would it be better to consolidate before introducing to fruiting conditions or just use a bit less spawn??
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: eLeSDenes]
#18992654 - 10/17/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Round two, here's another set of cased tubs...I think I'm going to break a personal best record for yield with a couple of these
All tubs are limited-MS penis envy (a transfer or two away from the original plate before moving the culture to grains). Cased as described in the OP.
Looks like a happy halloween!
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PussyFart
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18992670 - 10/17/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok...so you have convinced me to buy a metric shit ton of jiffy mix......congrats....lol
EDIT: That is of course the first flush, right?
About how long did those take to pin?
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Edited by PussyFart (10/17/13 07:45 PM)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: PussyFart]
#18992706 - 10/17/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, all first flushes.
They take about 6 days to colonize the substrate, 3-5 days with the casing under colonizing conditions and then I fruit them. It is usually about 4-7 days until pins start to explode all over it
You should do a grow log for me if you try the jiffy mix out, I'd love to see your results.
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Sagescruffy
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18992742 - 10/17/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy shit!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18994633 - 10/18/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dry weights coming in as they come, first two pics came out to 300.1g and 209.7g respectively.
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Violet
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18994655 - 10/18/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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That is amazing. You have mastered this.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: Violet]
#18994670 - 10/18/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you Violet, I appreciate the kind words.
It has been a long and curving road to get here, that's for sure.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18995196 - 10/18/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think I'm gonna give this a shot with a pure verm casing sometime soon. I've got a PE clone that I can't get to fruit worth a shit.
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mushrume man
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18995290 - 10/18/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used this tek on my PE tub I just fruited a week ago. It didn't completely eliminate blobs tho and I had a relatively low spawn rate 2:5 or 4qts-10qts.
The casing layer may not have been even in all spots, as my bulk sub was slanted to one side(noob). Also I'm not sure I had my tub dialed in perfectly either.
What do you think frank? Have you had casings produce some blobs and what do you think caused this?
It pinned with mostly blobs but eventually I got a decent flush out of my efforts
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18997996 - 10/18/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How thick did you make the casing layer and how much did you let it colonize before fruiting?
I found that I get blobs around the parts of my substrate that have a thinner casing layer. 1/2" minimum is what I have been doing for my tubs.
Also, the tub in picture #3 (also below) came out to 315.7g, almost a personal best record for first flush yield!
Edited by FrankHorrigan (10/18/13 11:46 PM)
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PussyFart
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18998335 - 10/19/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said:
-------------------- THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: PussyFart]
#18998598 - 10/19/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow FH, this log is really amazing. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on blobs and casing layers.
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: toawbe]
#18998637 - 10/19/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just started growing PE wanted as much info on them as possible Thanks for sharing Frank
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: blueconfusion]
#19020406 - 10/23/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushrume man
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19020462 - 10/23/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: How thick did you make the casing layer and how much did you let it colonize before fruiting?
I found that I get blobs around the parts of my substrate that have a thinner casing layer. 1/2" minimum is what I have been doing for my tubs.
Also, the tub in picture #3 (also below) came out to 315.7g, almost a personal best record for first flush yield!
That must be it, I had read 1/4in somewhere so that's what I went for. But because of the unlevel substrate some parts were thicker than others.
My casing was at least 25% colonized maybe a bit more. It's hard to tell through these newb eyes. This is right before I pulled the tape
Congrats Frank
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Re: Casing layer reduces PE blobs (FH's PE) [Re: mushrume man]
#19020634 - 10/23/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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thank you frank!!!
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