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Offlinechaosgenerator
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'lil black flys
    #1862259 - 08/29/03 09:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

are over running my set up...is there a safe way to kill em


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OfflinePooPs
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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: chaosgenerator]
    #1862263 - 08/29/03 09:26 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Clean.. Clean... Clean...

In your casings? or in the room?


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: chaosgenerator]
    #1862285 - 08/29/03 09:35 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

It may be too late to help this casing, but in the future, you might try adding some diatomaceous earth to your casings. About three to five percent by volume should do it.

DE is the fossilized skeletons of siliceous marine and fresh water organisms, particularly diatoms and other algae. These skeletons are made of hydrated amorphous silica or opal. The particles are actually very tiny, sharp shards so small that the material feels like talcum powder. This is easily picked up by the hairy bodies of most insects and worms where it scratches through their body causing a rapid loss of moisture; they just dry up and die.

DE is harmless to humans, though I'd avoid breathing it, and is frequently added to grain on farms to protect it from insects. You can get it at any well-stocked aquarium store; it's used to filter water.

Good luck!

-Diploid


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Diploid]
    #1862338 - 08/29/03 10:04 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i had these as well. i found a few solutions on the internet, try a little bowl of whisky in the tank. worked for me :smile:


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: mikey_]
    #1862381 - 08/29/03 10:31 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

damn...i wonder what it would feel like if i were a gnat who came in contact with diatomaceous earth...probly feel like i got shoved into a room filled with barbed wire, broken glass, razor blades, and boards with nails stickin out of them...then i'd just bleed to death...what a way to go...


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Sam_Kohui]
    #1862399 - 08/29/03 10:40 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

You're anthropomorphizing a bit. The nervous system of insects is far less sophisticated than yours, and while they may feel some pain, I doubt it's anything like what you describe.

-Diploid


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Diploid]
    #1862423 - 08/29/03 10:50 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i believe their nervous system is just as sensitive as ours (for their size)...it's just that you can't hear them scream...


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Sam_Kohui]
    #1862452 - 08/29/03 11:04 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The available evidence from biological experiments in the area of electromyography, nerve conductivity, synaptic transmission, depolarization, and others disagrees with you.

-Diploid


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Diploid]
    #1862480 - 08/29/03 11:23 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

gah yer killin my imagination ya damn scientist...i know that the sophistication of an organism's biological systems are relative to their size...eh...there will always be someone who disagrees with you...


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Sam_Kohui]
    #1862513 - 08/29/03 11:38 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe, but not me. I'm pretty sure he's right :wink: 

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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: chaosgenerator]
    #1862632 - 08/29/03 12:23 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry to hear about the fly infestation mate.. makes me itch just thinking about em !

The flies you have are either sciarid, phorid or cecid flies. These can be controlled biologically by using their natural enemy, the predatory mite Hypoaspis miles.

You can buy the mites at either of these sites

http://care2.greenhome.com/products/prodpagepco-bpc.html

http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PBE060_FungusGnatPredatorUnitOf10000.html


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1862639 - 08/29/03 12:25 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Are you sure that adding mites wouldn't make the problem worse? Do these mites like mushrooms? Hmm...

-Diploid


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Diploid]
    #1862652 - 08/29/03 12:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

No, they don't like mushrooms :thumbup: 


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1863004 - 08/29/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I've noticed more flies around this year aswell.. though not as bad as chaosgenerator seems to be experiencing. Hardly ever used to have them but this year there always seems to be a few running around on each tub. It must be a good year for the UK fly population or something..

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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1863006 - 08/29/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

they like 'lil black flies, and that'll fill them up! :laugh:


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: DanKnugget]
    #1863159 - 08/29/03 03:19 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i wouldn't mind being a fly in your terrarium - swell life: whisky, fresh air, water sprays to keep me cool, and all the mushrooms i can eat  :laugh:
can you put some naked fly pics in there for me, and i'm moving in in half an hour. i can fly down the internet ether :cool:

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf:  :sad:  :mad2: :tongue2: :eyemouth:
/shirley turns into gnat and approaches modem purposefully  :spliff:     


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InvisibleBi0TeK
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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: shirley knott]
    #1863229 - 08/29/03 03:52 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Hiya Shirley !  :smile:

I've been away for a month or so and have come back to find the place has been taken over by the Brits !!!

Congrats to Jackal, Paid and your good self !  :smile: :grin: :wink: 


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1863288 - 08/29/03 04:16 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

thanks, man. welcome back.


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Re: 'lil black flys [Re: chaosgenerator]
    #1865974 - 08/30/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

its the swan song of your grow, once they get infestated there's little you can do. I say dispose of it as soon as possible, those lil buggers bite! you'll probably get 1 or 2 dismal flushes before they completely take over.


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