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First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad.
    #18622442 - 07/28/13 05:28 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

On Friday night I went to a girls house with my 2 best friends (one had 1g lib caps and one was just blazing) and his sister. Me, the girl who's house it was, her boyfriend and his friend were all dropping acid. It was my first time on acid and I was expecting similar to the few shroom trips I've had.

We dropped 2 tabs each (they were on fruit pastels) at around 7pm. By 8pm I was euphoric and getting some wavy visuals here and there. Around 9pm the friend who was just blazing could see I was overwhelmed etc (I was no longer on this planet lol) so he offered to drive me to a lake we often blaze at near by to calm me down. While I was scared I was enjoying most of the visuals.

However, when we got back to the house (my other bestfriend wanted us to come back as he hasn't dropped his shrooms yet and was in a house with 3 people tripping major balls) it turned out the girl and her boyfriend had been having a bad trip, they'd been screaming at eachother, the girl had been sick several times and the boyfriend seemed really paranoid.

To try to stop me getting the bad vibes, my sober friend and my friend who had now started to come up on his shrooms took me to the living room to watch some TV and calm down. After about another hour nothing had gotten better for the others, and it turns out the paranoid lad had called his parents, who then showed up and rang an ambulance and the police. As you can imagine, for my first time on acid I was pranging BALLS.

We left asap and our sober friend drove the other dude who was tripping home, then took me and the guy on shrooms back to his garage for a chill/smoke. All night I noticed that my mind was just filling in gaps of things I couldnt make sense of with whatever it wanted (for example, people were saying things which I know they would never say) and I sometimes wondered if what I was experiencing was real and if I would ever be normal again. I walked home with my other friend (whom was coming down off his g of shrooms by now) and went and got in bed (worried sick that my mum would come in and find me in the state I was in). I literally lay in bed trying to sleep (STILL GETTING VISUALS) until 10:45am!!!! I was like holy fuck why am I still going?

At 11am after 7+ hours of rolling in bed and taking trips to the toilet I finally gave up trying to sleep, got up and went back to my friends who's garage we were at. All yesterday I felt still 'not right' and several times questioned if I was still tripping, I had the exact same 'headspace' (if that makes sense) as when tripping, but without the visuals. For example, I felt panicked and anxiety stricken everytime something got repeated /:

Woke up today feeling much better (slept 8pm lastnight until 10:30 am). I think i'm going to stick to shrooms in future and take a break from psychs altogether for a bit. Having a full blown peak of 8pm friday til 10:30 am Sat, and a comedown that lasted a further 9 hours was too much for me.

The best part was probably watching Life of Pi when I got home still tripping lol.

I've started to wonder if it was even acid ): Anyone else had to endure a trip they were scared would never end?

Edited by teenagehippie (07/28/13 05:29 AM)

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18622453 - 07/28/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Probably the most mentioned effect of a bad trip in all of bad trip history.
Had you even read up on psychedelics at all?

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However, when we got back to the house (my other bestfriend wanted us to come back as he hasn't dropped his shrooms yet and was in a house with 3 people tripping major balls) it turned out the girl and her boyfriend had been having a bad trip, they'd been screaming at eachother, the girl had been sick several times and the boyfriend seemed really paranoid.






Set and Setting.
I've been through similar things, where the whole trip just goes into slow mo as someone walks in / arrives crying abot (whatever) and this person is always crying about (whatever) and her life is always a mess because of (herself) but she'd rather cry about (whatever)and no one ccan tell her it's because she's overweight and not kind on the eyes but always falls for guys waaay above her level...this was 15 years ago... and why did I take this stuff again? Without having an exit plan? Just to do it? Regardless of knowing I'd be around (her) and she loves to always complain about men? And, I'm the only guy here. the fuck?

Also, not to be overly harsh on ya, but ...doesn't sound like you planned this out very well.
I mean, laying in bed hoping your mum wouldn't notice you're tripping?

Not

Next time, or for anyone else out there, read:

Tripping: Anthology of True Life Psychedelic Adventures.

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: OldHam]
    #18622471 - 07/28/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yeha i'm never ever tripping with those 2 again thats for sure.

Yeaaah well the plan was to stay at the girls house, I never intended to be within a mile of my parents that night. Due to the popo and likelihood of things going further downhill there was no way in hell I was staying at her house.

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie] * 1
    #18622482 - 07/28/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

At least you had some sort of exit then.
Taking substances then being stuck because everyone is too plugged to
drive and being trapped (spiralling down) w/ various nutters and neurotic / psychotic
people can really teach you the value of the solo trip.

Anyways, you're still here!
Not in the loony bin. :tongue:

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: OldHam]
    #18622497 - 07/28/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed yesterday I was thanking the sober dude so much, he was like "No worries you said it all while you were tripping" I was like wut lol.

You're totally right, lastnight made me realise that maybe I should stick to low doses and solo-trip in Leeds where I have my university flat. If it wasn't for all the negative chaos earlier in the night, my mum being 1 door away and the fact i'd wanted to come down for several hours I think i'd have really enjoyed the morning part of the trip :tongue2:

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie] * 1
    #18622525 - 07/28/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

haha, that was funny.

my first time was in a thing called 'ISS'...not sure if they have that anymore. Soooo long ago...
In School Suspension. 2 hits, stuck at a desk, with a teacher watching. In high school.
A recipe for disaster. I got through it by clenching the desk and tightening, releasing every muscle in my body.
Everything sounded like Mickey Mouse. I'm not really sure how no one noticed ... it's but a distant memory now.

:smile:

Yeah, didn't mean to sound like a dick in that first post.
'Thinking it will never end' is very common. Up there with thinking you've pissed yourself.


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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: OldHam]
    #18622554 - 07/28/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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haha, that was funny.

my first time was in a thing called 'ISS'...not sure if they have that anymore. Soooo long ago...
In School Suspension. 2 hits, stuck at a desk, with a teacher watching. In high school.
A recipe for disaster. I got through it by clenching the desk and tightening, releasing every muscle in my body.
Everything sounded like Mickey Mouse. I'm not really sure how no one noticed ... it's but a distant memory now.

:smile:

Yeah, didn't mean to sound like a dick in that first post.
'Thinking it will never end' is very common. Up there with thinking you've pissed yourself.




Sounds pretty equally as doomed a situation as mine!
All good man, if the trip taught me anything it definitely humbled me. Whether this will last i'm not sure, but i'm pretty sure I had my first ego-death last night (like I was a part of something bigger, and that EVERYTHING shared a consciousness, and every time I spoke to someone their reply was predetermined. Things like weed seemed so material and value-less (unless I was sharing it to make others happy too).

After one of the scariest nights of my life just being sat here in my room is bliss. My mum even asked me whats wrong because i've been making her cups of tea all the time and little things like that :smile:

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18622678 - 07/28/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Sounds pretty equally as doomed a situation as mine!
All good man, if the trip taught me anything it definitely humbled me. Whether this will last i'm not sure, but i'm pretty sure I had my first ego-death last night (like I was a part of something bigger, and that EVERYTHING shared a consciousness, and every time I spoke to someone their reply was predetermined. Things like weed seemed so material and value-less (unless I was sharing it to make others happy too).

After one of the scariest nights of my life just being sat here in my room is bliss. My mum even asked me whats wrong because i've been making her cups of tea all the time and little things like that :smile:




Haha, priceless...love it.
Yeah, I've said it before, I think one of the main positives to be got through tripping is being totally and completely scared. shitless.
Not for everyone, but, must be said: profound fear really makes you appreciate tea with your friends and family huh? Ha ha ha.

Also, a great book on the sustainability of the psychedelic experience, or the 'fruits' thereof  , is:

Zig Zag Zen (named here in case the pic expires)

But, if you don't have the time, due to studies or whatever, a summation...


I know he says 'the mind on psychedelics' but, what I take from that is: the fruits of the experience are so heavy, so different,
especially with disassociates and such, that unless you visit them often, they tend to fade...or drop from the tree of your mind.

I remember someone telling me they were glad they couldn't remember the
worlds of the K-hole while sober as it'd make existence in this world  unbearable.
Note: not just walking across the street type of stuff, but psychological existence.

Which might also explain why we don't remember anything from before being born.

Anyways, hopefully some other knowledgeable peoples will chime in here and comment on your experience!
Don't mean to 'hog the thread'. :smile: Or, scare everyone off with my longwindedness.

Glad you came through and have the wherewithall to try and put it in perspective and learn from it. Good on ya!

Take care, man! Good luck.


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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: OldHam]
    #18622716 - 07/28/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That's a really interesting analogy, an I appreciate you taking the time to write long replies :grin:

Maybe i'll give the book a go sometime.

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: OldHam]
    #18622731 - 07/28/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Probably the most mentioned effect of a bad trip in all of bad trip history.
Had you even read up on psychedelics at all?




I missed this bit earlier. Yes i'm aware it can be a common thought...However I thought the average tripper felt like this irrationally because they were tripping, however i'd been having full blown visuals for 13 or so hours...I thought the most intense point of an acid trip was a peak (suggesting a rise and fall either side) with total effects (including comedown) lasting around 12 hours, whereas mine was a 13 hour plateu, with the comedown lasting a FURTHER 9 hours. THIS specifically was what made me think I'd never come down.

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18622825 - 07/28/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I missed this bit earlier. Yes i'm aware it can be a common thought...However I thought the average tripper felt like this irrationally because they were tripping, however i'd been having full blown visuals for 13 or so hours...I thought the most intense point of an acid trip was a peak (suggesting a rise and fall either side) with total effects (including comedown) lasting around 12 hours, whereas mine was a 13 hour plateu, with the comedown lasting a FURTHER 9 hours. THIS specifically was what made me think I'd never come down.




Yeah, that was the part where I was being a total dick. lol.
Was gonna say 'wondering if it'll ever end is as common as wondering  if it'll ever begin'.
But, a 22 hour trip? Wow. Okay, now I understand. Depends on the dose...I'd say.

And, welp:
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ifoundwaldo said: Such is the problem with the illicit drug trade.

Who really knows WTF you're getting?

Could be 25C-NBOMe these days...




(Edit: though, of course, it'd need to be much longer lasting than 25C-NBOMe. But, you get the idea...)

From this thread.


I, personally, have never experienced a 22 hour trip. Which sounds hellish. Thank God for Mushrooms.

I'll just sit here quietly and shut up now.  :tongue:

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: OldHam]
    #18623056 - 07/28/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Hah that sucks dude.  Gotta be careful who you trip with

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: Melkor]
    #18623069 - 07/28/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Hah that sucks dude.  Gotta be careful who you trip with




I've known the girl for years (she used to go out with another one of my mates) and although she's always been a little weird, she's a nice enough girl. We'd been hanging with her and her bf more and more recently (just to chill and smoke) so I thought tripping with them would be fine. How wrong I was :P

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18623125 - 07/28/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I can't imagine how a situation like that would be.  Sounds scary tho

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: Melkor]
    #18623144 - 07/28/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Probably the scariest weekend of my life. Just gotta live and learn eh! Just ecstatic to be back to my normal self and be able to form functioning, semantically correct sentences :laugh:

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18623513 - 07/28/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

here is a thought...

Is it possible that the acid/ lsd/ shrooms can sometimes simply remove the filter that blocks us from seeing what fears we always carry?

For example, if you listen to most conversations when people are together (unintoxicated) they tend to just talk about how miserable their world is around them.


Perhaps a bad trip could help us actually give us a full blown wake-up call to learn about how much fear we carry around with us every day.

I had a bad trip yesterday including a panic attack and it really made me realize that ....ego...can't override blinding fear during a bad emotional experience.

My next goal of study is to learn more about what fear is, what cases it and if it is able to be controlled

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    #18628160 - 07/29/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

By the way guys, i've had a reaaaaally fucked up stomach since the trip. When I got home after it I was on the toilet quite a bit but assumed it would pass. Few days later now and i'm starting to wonder if whatever this shit was has made me develop IBS -_-

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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18645970 - 08/01/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

did your blotters kinda taste funny?

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    #18647493 - 08/02/13 02:07 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds to me like a classic combo of a research chem and a bad setting. Its happened to me before.Also there are very limited ways you can get I.B.S.and drug use is not one of them(ive had it for 5 years and asked this question to specialists


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Re: First LSD(?) trip went baaaaaad. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #18647739 - 08/02/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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did your blotters kinda taste funny?




They were on fruit pastels and tasted like fruit pastels :P

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Sounds to me like a classic combo of a research chem and a bad setting. Its happened to me before.Also there are very limited ways you can get I.B.S.and drug use is not one of them(ive had it for 5 years and asked this question to specialists




Hmmm thanks for your input. I've asked the mother to sort me a doctors appointment, I go to Amsterdam on the 6th and i'm buggin out that i'm not gonna be better for my holiday ):

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