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Mikhail716
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3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!!
#18607718 - 07/25/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So my cakes were birthed on July 5, it's now coming up on 3weeks and only one of my cakes appear to have hyphal knots growing. I had aerial mycelium growing from lack of FAE and severe bruising. I then did a complete noob move and remover the bruised aerial mycelium and redunked my cakes as of July 15th. Is there any hope for my cakes or should I just wait it out? Any suggestions???
The cake to the far right is the only one knotting
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Mikhail716]
#18607764 - 07/25/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't use a digital hygrometer, they are unreliable. Since you redunked on the 15th you've really only been waiting a little over a week..
Just keep misting and fanning, I can't really tell you why they didnt pin but redunking doesn't help if you dunked them after birthing.
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: GreenRabbit]
#18607775 - 07/25/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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it might not actually be 94% RH because that device is likely off. Are there holes on the bottom of the FC? Your perlite also looks really compressed, that can cause issues as well.
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18607927 - 07/25/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cubensis pinnin 72 - 78F. Try not to air until you see the pinnin. Cap holes. It´s a very big mistake. More water in perlite.
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: hasshass] 1
#18608357 - 07/25/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Someone is trollin in ur tub thats why they wont pin upper left hand corner
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: hasshass]
#18608367 - 07/25/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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hasshass said: Cubensis pinnin 72 - 78F. Try not to air until you see the pinnin. Cap holes. It´s a very big mistake. More water in perlite.
Ignore this entire post.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: PussyFart]
#18608370 - 07/25/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: B_BOY]
#18608397 - 07/25/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quick q do you have the tub elevated off of the surface so bottom can get proper air exchange ? This is a hige factor because it helps evaporation off of the perlite which is a main pinning trigger also be caurefull if you have any fans in the room.. Other than that make sure unleave enough space around the tub for natural air currents.. Edit: your holes dont look quite right either did you follow the sgfc tek ? Did you drill the holes in the lid and bottom ? What spaxing did you use atm it looks like a woodpecker tried to break in
Edited by Germanelite (07/25/13 06:45 AM)
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Germanelite]
#18608419 - 07/25/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also if u can trum that foil back a bit so the evap can trigger pinning on ur cakes lol:)
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Mikhail716
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Germanelite]
#18608448 - 07/25/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes the FC is elevated to allow proper air exchange and all holes are 1/4in in diameter 2in apart on all 6 sides. I have it placed near a window to allow sunlight and also use a lamp 12/12. Also the perilite is quite moist. What is trolling???
Edited by Mikhail716 (07/25/13 07:02 AM)
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Mikhail716]
#18608469 - 07/25/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm man all the specs are there id just trim the foil make sure u mist and fan id stay away from direct sunlight though at least for to long anyway
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Mikhail716
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Germanelite]
#18608482 - 07/25/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea the sunlight isn't directly shining on the cakes. I also only mist the cakes roughly 3-4 a day along with fanning for 30 seconds. I only see 2 cakes with knots starting to loose hope I hope my next cakes I have colonizing have better success.
Edited by Mikhail716 (07/25/13 07:15 AM)
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Mikhail716]
#18608487 - 07/25/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Like i said trim the dang foil its covering over 75% of ur perlite which is where most of your evap is coming from. No evaporation = no pinning triggers
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Mikhail716
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Germanelite]
#18608490 - 07/25/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok will do
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Mikhail716
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Mikhail716]
#18608491 - 07/25/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any other advice? If u would be so kind?
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Germanelite]
#18608495 - 07/25/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have this same issue with like 3/4 of my cakes I put them in the FC in june too =( At least some grew
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18608500 - 07/25/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Btw I see on this site people saying that digital hygrometers are unreliable, but elsewhere I see people say that digital hygromets are much more accurate and the analog kind can be unreliable.
I just googled the topic "Digital hygrometers usually also have other uses, such as measuring temperature and other environmental factors in addition to the humidity level. There are some pros to using these kinds of tools, though. For instance, they are very, very accurate, and they are often more affordable than quality analog versions"
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Edited by MidgetPawn (07/25/13 07:21 AM)
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Mikhail716
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18608513 - 07/25/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even if digital thermometers are not 100% I would imagine them not to be that far off
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: Mikhail716]
#18608518 - 07/25/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mikhail716 said: Even if digital thermometers are not 100% I would imagine them not to be that far off
When you figure out the item was made in china to specifically separate you from your money, your opinion on that might change.
If you want a somewhat reliable hygrometer, an analog one that is calibratable is what you want.
If you want the best of the best, get one that uses real hair.
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Mikhail716
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Re: 3 Weeks still no pinning!!! Help!!! [Re: PussyFart]
#18608564 - 07/25/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have trimmed the foil to just fit around the cakes. Hope this helps
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