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FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes
    #18601554 - 07/23/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

By Sabrina Tavernise
NYTimes.com

WASHINGTON — Moving closer to a decision on whether to ban menthol in cigarettes, the Food and Drug Administration released a scientific review on Tuesday that found the mint flavoring made it easier to start smoking and harder to quit, and solicited public comment on “potential regulation” of menthol flavored cigarettes.

These steps pleased smoking opponents who have been calling for F.D.A. action since 2009, when Congress exempted menthol from a ban on flavors in cigarettes, leaving the agency to decide whether its use is a danger to public health. Menthol cigarettes account for about a third of all cigarettes sold in the United States and are particularly popular among black smokers, about four out of five of whom report smoking them, according to federal surveys.

Still, the action was only an intermediate step in what advocates say has been a prolonged regulatory process and comes at a time when menthol smoking rates for young adults have been increasing.

Many had expected the F.D.A. to act on menthol in 2011 after a Congressionally mandated committee of outside experts, convened by the agency, found that menthol had a negative effect on public health. The findings by the agency on Tuesday echoed those conclusions, leaving smoking opponents frustrated that it had not clearly signaled an intent to ban menthol.

“This is either a way to take the heat off, or the beginning of a meaningful process,” said Matthew L. Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, an advocacy group. “That’s the book the jury is still out on.”

Mitchell Zeller, the new director of the drug agency’s Center for Tobacco Products, said the steps the agency took Tuesday showed that it was moving forward as fast as it could, but he emphasized that they did not foreshadow a ban. The public comment period will be open for 60 days.

“The F.D.A. is a regulatory agency,” Mr. Zeller said on a conference call with journalists. “As a regulatory agency, we can only go as far as the regulatory science will take us.”

Lorillard, the biggest manufacturer of menthol cigarettes in the United States, said in a statement that “the best available science demonstrates that menthol cigarettes have the same health effects as nonmenthol cigarettes and should be treated no differently.”

Indeed, the F.D.A.’s review found that menthol cigarettes did not increase the risk of disease compared with smoking nonmenthol cigarettes. The agency did find, however, that the mint flavoring made people more likely to start smoking, and led to greater dependence on nicotine and decreased rates of quitting, conclusions that opponents of smoking say should spur the agency to action.

Mr. Myers said the timing of the announcement was most likely linked to an international trade dispute. The United States has until Wednesday to comply with a World Trade Organization ruling that the American ban on clove cigarettes under the 2009 law violated Indonesia’s trade rights if the United States itself continued to allow the sale of menthol-flavored cigarettes.

Indonesia, a maker of clove cigarettes, brought the suit. The United States contended that menthol posed a different public health risk, but the trade organization did not accept its argument.

Menthol flavoring makes an otherwise harsh cigarette more palatable for young people who are first-time smokers, smoking opponents say. And while smoking rates have been declining across the nation, rates for menthol cigarettes among 18- to 25-year-olds have climbed — to 16 percent in 2010 from 13 percent in 2004, according to a 2011 federal report.

Young blacks are particularly vulnerable, smoking opponents say. More than three-quarters of black adolescent and young adult smokers use Newports, a menthol cigarette produced by Lorillard, according to a 2004 study.

A 2011 study led by a Stanford University researcher found that stores within walking distance of California high schools attended by large numbers of black students were more likely to advertise menthol cigarettes. It also found that Newports, the most popular brand of menthol cigarettes, tended to be cheaper.

Lorillard disagreed with the conclusion, saying that it marketed its products “uniformly throughout California,” and that retailers themselves set prices.

The issue of race has complicated discussions of menthol, said Valerie Yerger, a researcher at the University of California, San Francisco, who provided testimony to the drug agency and its expert panel in 2010. Several black groups lobbied against a ban on grounds that it would discriminate against blacks, since a larger proportion of them prefer menthol cigarettes.

The racial politics are delicate, experts said, though it is not clear whether they are contributing to the slowness of the regulatory process.

Many smoking opponents seem willing to give Mr. Zeller, a 55-year-old lawyer named in March to lead the F.D.A.’s tobacco unit, the benefit of the doubt. He began his career at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a consumer health advocacy group, and many smoking opponents see him as a strong public health proponent.

“I’m cautiously optimistic that he’s going to move to meaningful action on menthol,” said Joelle Lester, a Minnesota-based lawyer with the Tobacco Control Legal Consortium, a nonprofit network of legal centers for tobacco control policy.

The F.D.A. also announced that it would conduct a public education campaign focused on young people this year, and said it was commissioning three new pieces of research related to menthol, including one on genetic differences in taste perceptions that might explain why some racial and ethnic populations are more likely to smoke menthol cigarettes.

“The bottom line is, we need more information,” Mr. Zeller said. “We also need input from the public.”


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18601574 - 07/23/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

So on one hand in modern America, society is starting to ease up on its treatment of drug users.  On the other hand, the government is becoming your overbearing South-Beach-diet mother, God bless her soul.

P.S. The study is here.

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18601593 - 07/23/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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So on one hand in modern America, society is starting to ease up on its treatment of drug users.  On the other hand, the government is becoming your overbearing South-Beach-diet mother, God bless her soul.

P.S. The study is here.




Just wait. Obamacare will make shit like this seem tame.


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18601614 - 07/23/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I'm going to be paying the no-insurance penalty for a while.  Cheaper than the difference between the expected value of a bad and the price of said bet.  I want single-payer to happen, but then more of this type of bullshit'll happen.  "We're all paying for your lungs!"  Damn right you are, we're in this shit together.


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18601648 - 07/23/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

OP I fell in love with you the moment I saw your avatar


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18601655 - 07/23/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Um.


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18602002 - 07/23/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

You think muh fuckas gonna let you take their Newports away?!  :nojustno:

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A 2011 study led by a Stanford University researcher found that stores within walking distance of California high schools attended by large numbers of black students were more likely to advertise menthol cigarettes. It also found that Newports, the most popular brand of menthol cigarettes, tended to be cheaper.



So what?  There are usually gas stations in walking distance of schools, gas stations usually advertise cigarettes both menthol and non menthol.  Newports are the most expensive cigarettes (of the major brands) you can buy.  If they were a dollar more people would very likely still choose the brand.

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18602226 - 07/23/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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sonamdrukpa said:
By Sabrina Tavernise
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Menthol cigarettes  are particularly popular among black smokers, about four out of five of whom report smoking them, according to federal surveys.





i lol'd

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Forest.dweller] * 1
    #18602286 - 07/23/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

First black president and they're going to outlaw menthol cigarettes? He's going to get lynched :lol:

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18602311 - 07/23/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:obama:Sell out...

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Konyap]
    #18602435 - 07/23/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Let the blacks have there newports. What I'm worried about are these flavoured, non nicotine juice they have for ecigs. I work with a bunch of kids (16 - 20), and there always commin to work talkin about there new cherry, pina colata, whatever flavoures they just got for there vape. I just know there gunna move on to real cigs. I smoke real cigs, so I know how addicting they are. Some of these ecigs are just like smoking candy, and one step closer to the real thing. That's just my opinion though...


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: huffinglue]
    #18602683 - 07/23/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Why do black people loves menthols so much





Nobody knows....




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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #18603605 - 07/24/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: jtronique]
    #18603715 - 07/24/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

very very VERY rarely do I smoke cigarettes. When I do, occasionally I want a menthol. Nooooooooo!

I am against this!

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    #18604089 - 07/24/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: majikProgramming] * 3
    #18604156 - 07/24/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

You'll be seeing more of this. Now that the Feds will be wrapped up in health care, be prepared for them to take ever increasing action interfering in your life.

Personal responsibility is dead. Long live the Feds!  :puke:


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18604523 - 07/24/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like as good a reason as any to defy the fedpigs at every opportunity. They're a bunch of arrogant rookies whose wives aren't putting out so they feel the need to screw everyone in the butt as hard as possible. Oh, and they frequently forget lesson number two: They get high on their own supply (which wasn't technically their supply since they confiscated it from somebody who bought it).


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18605953 - 07/24/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

When I started smoking menthol cigarettes always seemed more harsh than plain ol' cigs, so
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Menthol flavoring makes an otherwise harsh cigarette more palatable for young people who are first-time smokers, smoking opponents say.


didn't make much sense to me.

I smoked regular cigarettes for the longest, but I now smoke menthols, so I'm really curious about the claims that menthol causes a greater dependency to nicotine.

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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: DrGuano]
    #18606266 - 07/24/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

they're tying to ban guns and smokes?


i thought this was america:mad2:


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Re: FDA Closer to Decision About Menthol Cigarettes [Re: Salomon]
    #18609743 - 07/25/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, it's still America. It's just a completely bastardized version of America wherein the explicit and implicit liberties have been either abridged or savagely raped to keep a few people in power and wealth. But to them there Keystone swillin', Copenhagen chewin', pick-em-up truck drivin' good ol' boys, this here's still 'Merica.


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