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I'm all broke. My answers are the same as everyone else.

I think one of the main things that separate the poor from the middle class is vacations.  When people tell me about vacations they've taken it really just blows my mind.  vacations to other countries are like, outside my comprehension.  I don't give a shit about where people went or what they saw the only question i can think to ask is "how much did that cost?"

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Hey man its not that expensive to travel abroad, just an fyi if you plan it out in advance you can get there and back for about a grand, then its all hotels and shit like that. Its expensive but it doesn't have to cost 10 grand

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People living on $10-20k a year don't have a grand to spend on vacations.

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I frequently do, if I make $1000 a month then a good $400 can be saved. By the end of a year just saving $200 a month that's enough to make it to overseas and back depending on what you plan on doing.

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And at what age do you plan on retiring?  I'm going to go with never.

Also, your living expenses are less than $600/mo?

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Well keep in mind that I'm in my early 20s and still working on my trade, my current lifestyle revolves around making sure I have enough time to work on my trade and spending as little money as possible so I don't have to spend more time working a shitty day job.

Yes even living in big cities I can comfortably keep my expenses down to the range of $600-800 depending on the exact situation.

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I frequently do, if I make $1000 a month then a good $400 can be saved. By the end of a year just saving $200 a month that's enough to make it to overseas and back depending on what you plan on doing.

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overseas where? haiti on a red eye flight?

1k barely, makes it from the airport to the hotel in london.

100k , is where middle class BEGINS.

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Where you going in the states?

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but for a bachelor who grew up in the bayou without AC eating ketchup sandwhiches and drinking water out of the bathtub, its not difficult

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A low salary is around a dollar a day - what Indian child beggars earn. If you're eating food 3 times a day, shut the fuck up about getting by because you have it better than 70% of the world

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If you're eating food 3 times a day, shut the fuck up

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wow.  just wow.

The misfortune of others in no way dictates what i deem to be a low salary.

This is exactly what this thread is about.  Asking people's opinion on what is low.  You say a dollar.  I agree.

I say under 40k is also low, you don't agree.

It's been nice agreeing to disagree with you

I'm happy that you're happy with 3 meals a day  

I sure as hell want more then that. :P

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anne halonium said:
up until 1999 ,
i lived off mid 6 figures most yrs.

since i retired at 39,
i get by on just short of 6 figures.

i now what stuff costs globally.
ive been around the world 3x.


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comparing first , second, and third world lifestyles.

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there's something about you I don't like.  Just saying.

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And stop typing in bold letters

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gee masked,
im not a 1% er anymore...........

i bold, for the contrast,
as i have eye damage from my work in physics labs.

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anne halonium said:
gee masked,
im not a 1% er anymore...........

i bold, for the contrast,
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Please break down $600/mo for me, I'm curious.

My expenses are around $1600/mo and that's just rent, food, cell phone, car insurance, etc.

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would delay actually making a living off my trade (which will provide more than I have now).

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I love your passion.  I am also a musician and wanted to go down that road.  I gave up without ever really trying.  I still play and record though

But I watched many friends go down that road.  ALL of them are almost 30 now and not a single one made it.

Some went to college and got all sorts of music engineering degrees, music theory degrees.  Others went to Vancouver and toronto and played tons of shows, even put out some albums...others became session musicians.  Others fell out and ended up doing something else related to the scene.  Others gave up and went a got a trade.

Point being, no one made it.  And this isn't to knock you or say you won't...I actually give you mad props because I know how hard it is and wish to hell that all your time living on the streets and in a van pays off.

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would delay actually making a living off my trade (which will provide more than I have now).

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I love your passion.  I am also a musician and wanted to go down that road.  I gave up without ever really trying.  I still play and record though

But I watched many friends go down that road.  ALL of them are almost 30 now and not a single one made it.

Some went to college and got all sorts of music engineering degrees, music theory degrees.  Others went to Vancouver and toronto and played tons of shows, even put out some albums...others became session musicians.  Others fell out and ended up doing something else related to the scene.  Others gave up and went a got a trade.

Point being, no one made it.  And this isn't to knock you or say you won't...I actually give you mad props because I know how hard it is and wish to hell that all your time living on the streets and in a van pays off.

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Thanks man I really appreciate that, after sticking to the goal for a few years all my doubts are gone. Now I know a lot of people making a living in the scene, most musicians I meet think highly of me and I'm generally good at getting attention.
The music scene is notoriously competitive but its not impossible to break, most of the fight it seems is just sticking to it.

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I literally cringe when I hear people with a 40k salary act like they are "just getting by"

What the fuck is a low salary to you people? Cause honestly if you have benefits and are sitting on 40k a year I consider you a spoiled bitch if you complain about that shit

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40k is low bud.  Where I'm from, it's tough to live decently on 40.

I'd say 40 is low.  50-70 is comfortable.  70+ is ideal.

I'm making about 100 a year right now and I'm not rich by no means.

But I do have kids and whatnot, so I think that makes a big difference

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Pretty much this.

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100k is rich. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. Its god damn rich and its sickening that people try to convince themselves otherwise. Lying to yourself doesn't change reality nor does it count for modesty

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Bullshit. Everything is relative.

In my city a 1 bedroom bungalow will run you $350,000.
My brother bought a 3 bedroom house with an attic and basement in NYS for $16,000.
So what goes for $16,000 in NYS you could sell for 600K-700K here.....But 100K salary is the same for everyone, and if you disagree you are in denial.

How many hours per week do you work?
What do you pay annually in taxes?

Maybe if you want more money you should go out and get it, instead of complaining that everyone else has too much and takes it for granted.