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Mushrooms that grow on their own?
    #1859139 - 08/28/03 03:40 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)


Are there any strains that you plat behind a tree, and with some to to 0 care that grow on their own?

I see many people hunt for mushrooms, so there must be mushrooms that grow on their own. What strains? Do the strains grow easily?

Thanks a bunch.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859196 - 08/28/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

ARE U KIDDING ME? ;d PLEASE HEAD TO THE MUSHROOM HUNTING FAQ! THANKS!


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: whole9]
    #1859204 - 08/28/03 03:59 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

you mean inject spores in the ground? try it, i bet it would be better to start inside.

people do tend to make outdoor patches our of spent cakes.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859220 - 08/28/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

please read the faq, and just hang around for a while before you start asking questions and making you look like you're completely braindead...


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: darkmaula]
    #1859296 - 08/28/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry.

Can anyone shoot down my stupid logic?

People go mushroom hunting, and magic mushrooms came from outside.

Now, I assume the only way to hunt and find mushrooms is not to find other peoples crops, but also find wild mushrooms.

If these wild mushrooms can grow, why cant mushrooms I plant in the backyard grow? Assuming I provide similiar enviroments.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859373 - 08/28/03 04:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i think you have a valid argument, i was thinking the same thing, if mushies grow wildly and naturaly it would make sense to find a strain that grows naturally in your area or close to

start there

i dont see why you couldnt drop a spore print in the ground n cover some soil or something... i mean that is how it ends up happening in the wild anyway  :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: enacid]
    #1859425 - 08/28/03 04:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I was thinking of doing it in my backyard or something, do the strains have to be the same? Maybe if I excavated an area growing with it, and put it in a pot, and emulated the sunlight/temp?

I live in washington BTW if that helps.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: enacid]
    #1859471 - 08/28/03 04:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I believe Liberty Caps (I can't remember how to spell their correct name :wink:) are the most common ones in my area, and I have also read in one source that they are among the hardest to deliberately cultivate. Amanita muscaria, another common fungus in woods near me, has apparently NEVER been deliberately cultivated. Although that may mean cultivate in lab conditions, rather than outside.

Something I was wondering about is, if you have a suitable site near you, getting a spore syringe or similar, squirting it into a big ass drum of honey/water, and waiting until you have a shit load of growth. And then straining out and planting this mycelium in your suitable site. This way you would have a large quantity of the fungus you want, in its natural growing conditions, and I reckon you'd have a fair chance of success. And if it doesn't work then you haven't lost much.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859513 - 08/28/03 05:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You can make an outdoor mushroom patch, what you need to know is that its not going to happen the way the you are talking about.

Nature plays a numbers game when it comes to survival. In the case of mushrooms, the more spores that get distributed, the better a chance that some will land in a spot that is hospitable to the needs of the mushroom and has no other organisms fighting for the same space or at least ones that the mycelium can compete with. Also, the numbers game is played to ensure the if some of the spores don't make it ( i.e. they don't germinate, they germinate but are killed) then some others might.

What you have to do because you want to increase the odds that your mushroom of choice makes it is to incubate some spores on a sterile environment in a controlled atmosphere, and then use that to get things started outside.

What you need to do is go here: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3314
and read up on all about how to grow you some outdoor shrooms.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859516 - 08/28/03 05:08 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Do you know how many mushrooms are in the wild producing huge amounts of spores ? Only a few of the spores germinate and create a new patch of shrooms. You will have to drop 5000 spore prints if you want it to grow without taking any care.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1859523 - 08/28/03 05:09 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I read that, for the first guide, would that be the only time I would have to dig a pit, or mix shit around, or what? Or would I have to do it often?


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859562 - 08/28/03 05:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Theoretically, you could add nutrients to the patch and as long as the species is native to your area and nothing adverse happens to it, it should last a long time.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1859847 - 08/28/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, Ive got a general idea.

Now for my questions, where can I buy hay? Will yard clippings work?

Do I need to worry about sterility when making cakes if Im going to plant them outside, using Moes outdoor TEK?



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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1859861 - 08/28/03 06:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yes your cakes need to be sterile


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: KidTripper02]
    #1859914 - 08/28/03 07:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

ok, eat a bunch of vegetables for like a month, eat some spores, and shit all over your yard. simulated nature right there :wink:


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: KidTripper02]
    #1859981 - 08/28/03 07:22 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Why though? Ive heard of people dumping contaminated cakes (cakes are the things in 1/2 pint jars right?) into their garden and with a bit of work they get mushrooms


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: DanKnugget]
    #1860055 - 08/28/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DanKnugget said:
ok, eat a bunch of vegetables for like a month, eat some spores, and shit all over your yard. simulated nature right there :wink: 



:lol: :lol:

the reason you cant just "plant" mushrooms is because each shroom growing in the wild drops 1000's of spores all over the place and maybe one of those will actually mature.  thats a 1/1000 chance AT BEST. 


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1860066 - 08/28/03 07:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

lol5919 said:
Why though? Ive heard of people dumping contaminated cakes (cakes are the things in 1/2 pint jars right?) into their garden and with a bit of work they get mushrooms




yea those are the cakes. why dont you just use the conventional method? you can control the enviorment and will have much better chances of a sucessful outcome.

read the FAQ. NOW! before you get killed by some of these people, theyll tear you to pieces if you ask a dumb question.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: chinacat311]
    #1860116 - 08/28/03 08:09 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ive been reading up the FAQ alot lately, but still have some questions. I have horrible memroy so I forgot about the cakes.

Now, is it important that I be 100% sterile if Im going to plant them outside? People plant cakes outside when they get contaminated, so why do I need to do the stertile part.


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Re: Mushrooms that grow on their own? [Re: lol5919]
    #1860233 - 08/28/03 08:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

that hardly ever works, if at all. contam=bad.

the mushrooms need a sterile inviroment to grow or all the competing bacteria will take over and you will get no shrooms.

why dont you just grow inside like everyone else? its almost winter anyway.


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