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World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem
#18585011 - 07/20/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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MICHAEL KELLEY JUN. 26, 2013
 U.S. Justice Department In 2007 about $207 million was found in the home of a suspected cartel supplier of meth-precursor chemicals. The pile, which weighed more than 4,500 pounds, is considered the largest drug cash seizure in history.[/b]
North America clearly has a very big meth problem on its hands, according to the 2013 World Drug Report by the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime (UNODC). From 2010 to 2011 worldwide seizures of methamphetamine by authorities grew by 73% — from 51 tons to 88 tons — and 61% (54 tons) of all seizures were reported by Mexico and the U.S.
From the report (emphasis ours):
The highest methamphetamine seizures were reported by Mexico, where seizures more than doubled, from 13 tons to 31 tons [i.e. the most in the world], and surpassed for the first time those of the United States which seized 23 tons in 2011, up from 15 tons in 2010. ...
Most methamphetamine laboratories continue to be reported by the United States, where their numbers quadrupled from 2,754 in 2010 to 11,116 in 2011.
Basically, Mexico and the U.S. combined are a meth powerhouse.
In 2007 Mexican authorities made the largest drug cash seizure in history when they discovered $207 million in the home of a suspected cartel supplier of meth-precursor chemicals.
And since 2007 Mexican cartels have been pumping exceptionally cheap and high quality meth into the U.S. for a profit of $5 billion a year.

From 2007 to 2011, the purity of available meth in the U.S. skyrocketed while the price tumbled from $290 per pure gram to less than $90 — a combination that hooks people on the fast, intense, and long-lasting high. In October the DEA estimated that cartel meth — which is 90% pure — makes up for as much as 80% of the meth sold in the U.S.
In December 2011 officials seized 252 tons of precursor chemicals for manufacturing meth at one of the Pacific ports used by cartels to supply their superlabs (where they make industrial volumes of meth).

The Sinaloa Cartel, led by Mexican kingpin Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, accounts for 80% of the U.S. meth trade. In Chicago, where Guzmán is Public Enemy No.1, Sinaloa is employing more than 100,000 gang members to sling meth (along with cocaine, marijuana and heroin) on the streets while cartel members blend in with the metro area's two million Hispanic residents.
It should be noted that there are allegations that Guzmán, who was on the Forbes' list of billionaires from 2009 to 2012, works with the U.S. government.
In court documents, a high-ranking member of Sinaloa currently in U.S. custody asserted that Guzmán is a U.S. informant, Sinaloa was "given carte blanche to continue to smuggle tons of illicit drugs into Chicago," and Operation Fast and Furious was part of an agreement to finance and arm the cartel in exchange for information used to take down its rivals.
The claims were corroborated by a Mexican foreign service officer who doubled as a confidential source for the U.S. security firm Stratfor when he alleged that the U.S. government works with Mexican cartels to traffic drugs into the U.S., and that in 2010 the U.S. sided with Sinaloa in an attempt to limit the violence in Mexico.

The rest of the world Meth seizures have increased in the rest of the world as well as seizures rose from 21 tons to 32 tons in Asia and 1200 lbs to 2 tons in Europe.
The authors notes that in 2011 East and South-East Asia also continued to make up a significant share of the global meth market, with the highest seizures reported from China (14 tons), Indonesia (1 ton), Malaysia (1 ton) and Thailand (10 tons).

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-america-has-a-massive-meth-problem-2013-6
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: x7x_x7x]
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no wonder my town has such a big meth problem. it sits right on the main west cost distribution line
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: psyconaught]
#18585216 - 07/20/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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At least its pure
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: psyconaught]
#18585244 - 07/20/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't want to sound stupid, but how is it that I don't know anyone who uses meth? It doesn't seem like I do. I never hear about it, even. I live in the NE, however.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: un-known-ome]
#18585299 - 07/20/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont know anyone who uses personally either. or if they do they keep quiet about it
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: un-known-ome]
#18585324 - 07/20/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Chance maybe, I've known many people who use or did use meth. More likely than chance though, you probably just can't tell
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
#18585503 - 07/20/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont know anyone either..
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: orison]
#18585703 - 07/20/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its more of a west coast/boondocks thing.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Konyap]
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aiyobro said: Its more of a west coast/boondocks thing.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Hashishins]
#18585773 - 07/20/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey, it still doesn't ruin as many lives as hard liquor
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Hashishins]
#18585777 - 07/20/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I live in New York. I've had a friend become addicted to meth and go through rehab several times. It definitely changed her appearance--rotting teeth, prematurely aged skin--not pretty.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: jack_straw2208]
#18585779 - 07/20/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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jack_straw2208 said: hey, it still doesn't ruin as many lives as hard liquor
Yeah I'd really like to hang out with the fella that abuses the stuff.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Konyap]
#18585781 - 07/20/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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But then again this guy looks chill
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12] 2
#18585785 - 07/20/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Same could be said about alcohol or eating too much. I know people who've smoked meth for years and you wouldn't even know it unless they told you
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
#18585794 - 07/20/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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My old acquittance used to sit at the same table as his sister and smoke the stuff.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: jack_straw2208]
#18585808 - 07/20/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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jack_straw2208 said: hey, it still doesn't ruin as many lives as hard liquor
True that
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
#18585829 - 07/20/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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No not true that. Street meth is horrible for your body with all it's impurities and leads to stuff like faces of meth. Have you guys ever watch breaking bad, that show glamorizes the stuff and it doesn't even look great.
Street meth is fucking bad news.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Konyap]
#18585848 - 07/20/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: No not true that. Street meth is horrible for your body with all it's impurities and leads to stuff like faces of meth. Have you guys ever watch breaking bad, that show glamorizes the stuff and it doesn't even look great.
Street meth is fucking bad news.
Read my first post in this thread before you cite a television show. Meth certainly does more damage to its individual user, but alcohol, because of its wide availability and use, does much more quantifiable damage to society than meth.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
#18585868 - 07/20/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Whatever dude you shouldn't even bring that up, no one was even demonizing it. You seem offly defensive about it.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
#18585869 - 07/20/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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That table is very dubious, are they really trying to say marijuana is more than 1/3rd as dangerous as alcohol? LSD and Shrooms 1/7th?
If we start on car accidents, what would the statistics say.
Drunk driving fatalities 2010 (USA): 10,228
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
#18585876 - 07/20/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah but how many of those are because of speeding or no seatbelts.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Konyap]
#18585925 - 07/20/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Probably not many but I don't have the ability to investigate all 10000 of those instances, either way we know how much harm alcohol causes and there is very little in the way of verifiable facts to demonstrate harm caused by MJ LSD and shrooms. So that chart which displays MJ as 1/3rd as dangerous as alcohol, very very skeptical
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
#18586022 - 07/20/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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The damage from meth comes from not taking care of yourself due to the drugs effects on your brain. Staying up for a week straight (and not just saying staying up for a week straight, literally not sleeping for a week-10 days does happen) will just wreck your body/of course your teeth are going to be like shit when you never brush them.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
#18586053 - 07/20/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Indeed. If I were a marijuana legalization opponent I could (and probably would) misleadingly tout this study as evidence that marijuana is more dangerous than we think it is.
The study's author say that it's limited by the availability of the drugs in the UK where it was conducted, so it's really evaluating the overall harm caused by these substances to society, not their relative harm to an individual who uses one.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
#18586066 - 07/20/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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That was a trippy edit, anywho the only harm caused to society from MMJ Shrooms and LSD which can be verified as fact - is prohibition. If one were to make a realistic chart regarding either harm on individual or society, a question mark would better suit the place of a bar for those 3 drugs.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: MrKite1]
#18586667 - 07/20/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's an interesting graph but the whole idea is still very dubious, by 'community' damage and 'family adversities' do they mean cops busting down someone's door shooting their dog and throwing a family member in jail for 10 years?
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: un-known-ome]
#18586684 - 07/20/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I knew a LOT of people that used it in east Texas about 10 years ago. Now, here in Dallas, it seems it's mostly used in the gay community from what I can see. Oh, and people that think there getting 'molly'. I came across some 'molly' several months ago and that shit was not even close to the pressed pills I got 10 plus years ago. Shit had me talkin my ass off and interupting everyone and kept me up for 2.5 days feelin like death itself.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: huffinglue]
#18587434 - 07/20/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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huffinglue said: I knew a LOT of people that used it in east Texas about 10 years ago. Now, here in Dallas, it seems it's mostly used in the gay community from what I can see. Oh, and people that think there getting 'molly'. I came across some 'molly' several months ago and that shit was not even close to the pressed pills I got 10 plus years ago. Shit had me talkin my ass off and interupting everyone and kept me up for 2.5 days feelin like death itself.
Come a little south down 35 about 10 - 15 miles from south Dallas or Danieldale rd. The junk is everywhere,It's not just gay people. Bikers are on it,the rednecks are on it,the mexicans dudes are on it. The rich white kids are on it.Everyone is tweaking .
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: amungus]
#18587690 - 07/20/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Meth is a dumb drug.
You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.
Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: CaptainAhab]
#18589178 - 07/21/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: Meth is a dumb drug.
You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.
Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: x7x_x7x]
#18589446 - 07/21/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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x7x_x7x said:

Well, I guess this explains why in my area (and having lived in the 3rd largest city in my state) I have only seen meth once in 17 years outside of a "dirty" MDMA pill.
Once.
My area is nowhere near a primary or secondary transport line on that map. Plus there's a lot of cocaine around.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
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sukhavati12 said: I live in New York. I've had a friend become addicted to meth and go through rehab several times. It definitely changed her appearance--rotting teeth, prematurely aged skin--not pretty.
 stuff seems non existent here in NJ. Once in a blue moon you hear of a big bust for it, but not once have I been offered it, met someone on it/with connects for it, or been around it. And I'm kind of happy about it.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: CaptainAhab]
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CaptainAhab said: Meth is a dumb drug.
You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.
Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.
this was oddly specific...
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: CaptainAhab]
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CaptainAhab said: Meth is a dumb drug.
You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.
Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: un-known-ome]
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un-known-ome said: I don't want to sound stupid, but how is it that I don't know anyone who uses meth? It doesn't seem like I do. I never hear about it, even. I live in the NE, however.
Due to the stigma about meth, coupled with the paranoia caused by meth, meth users are very secretive.
You may never know anyone who uses meth, but as soon as you meet one and become better friends, they all spring out from the bushes.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: If we start on car accidents, what would the statistics say.
Drunk driving fatalities 2010 (USA): 10,228
Non-drunk driving automobile fatalities 2010 (USA): 22,655 So do we conclude that driving sober is twice as dangerous driving drunk?
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Repertoire89 said: If we start on car accidents, what would the statistics say.
Drunk driving fatalities 2010 (USA): 10,228
Non-drunk driving automobile fatalities 2010 (USA): 22,655 So do we conclude that driving sober is twice as dangerous driving drunk?
We would only conclude that if there were exactly as many people driving drunk as people driving sober... But divide the number of drunk accidents by the number of drunk drivers and you'll have a far higher quota than when you do the number of sober accidents by the number of sober drivers...
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: x7x_x7x]
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Looking at all that cash just makes me drool. I daydream about running in there with two big garbage bags and rolling the fuck out like Santa.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Konyap]
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jack_straw2208 said: hey, it still doesn't ruin as many lives as hard liquor
Yeah I'd really like to hang out with the fella that abuses the stuff.
You're already addicted.
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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: amungus]
#18597846 - 07/23/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just wait till we build that new golf course and move the byron neilson to south dallas... haha, soon our south side of town is gunna become your north. Better start lookin for houses in waco dude. Lol
-------------------- I fucking hate grammer nazis! Yes, I can't spell. Yes, I don't have perfect grammer. I post from my phone and dont give a shit about people whose lifes are so boring they get off on putting people down for not having perfect fucking grammer, even though they know excactly what there saying.. Fuck You. It's just a ride mang...
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