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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18585876 - 07/20/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah but how many of those are because of speeding or no seatbelts.

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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Konyap]
    #18585925 - 07/20/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Probably not many but I don't have the ability to investigate all 10000 of those instances, either way we know how much harm alcohol causes and there is very little in the way of verifiable facts to demonstrate harm caused by MJ LSD and shrooms. So that chart which displays MJ as 1/3rd as dangerous as alcohol, very very skeptical

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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18586022 - 07/20/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

The damage from meth comes from not taking care of yourself due to the drugs effects on your brain. Staying up for a week straight (and not just saying staying up for a week straight, literally not sleeping for a week-10 days does happen) will just wreck your body/of course your teeth are going to be like shit when you never brush them.

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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18586053 - 07/20/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Indeed. If I were a marijuana legalization opponent I could (and probably would) misleadingly tout this study as evidence that marijuana is more dangerous than we think it is.

The study's author say that it's limited by the availability of the drugs in the UK where it was conducted, so it's really evaluating the overall harm caused by these substances to society, not their relative harm to an individual who uses one.


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18586066 - 07/20/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

That was a trippy edit, anywho the only harm caused to society from MMJ Shrooms and LSD which can be verified as fact - is prohibition. If one were to make a realistic chart regarding either harm on individual or society, a question mark would better suit the place of a bar for those 3 drugs.

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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18586583 - 07/20/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: MrKite1]
    #18586667 - 07/20/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

That's an interesting graph but the whole idea is still very dubious, by 'community' damage and 'family adversities' do they mean cops busting down someone's door shooting their dog and throwing a family member in jail for 10 years?

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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: un-known-ome]
    #18586684 - 07/20/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I knew a LOT of people that used it in east Texas about 10 years ago. Now, here in Dallas, it seems it's mostly used in the gay community from what I can see. Oh, and people that think there getting 'molly'. I came across some 'molly' several months ago and that shit was not even close to the pressed pills I got 10 plus years ago. Shit had me talkin my ass off and interupting everyone and kept me up for 2.5 days feelin like death itself.


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: huffinglue]
    #18587434 - 07/20/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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huffinglue said:
I knew a LOT of people that used it in east Texas about 10 years ago. Now, here in Dallas, it seems it's mostly used in the gay community from what I can see. Oh, and people that think there getting 'molly'. I came across some 'molly' several months ago and that shit was not even close to the pressed pills I got 10 plus years ago. Shit had me talkin my ass off and interupting everyone and kept me up for 2.5 days feelin like death itself.




Come a little south down 35 about 10 - 15 miles from south Dallas or Danieldale rd.
The junk is everywhere,It's not just gay people.
Bikers are on it,the rednecks are on it,the mexicans dudes are on it.
The rich white kids are on it.Everyone is tweaking .

I started at 15 and quit around 23 give or take a relapse or two.
I had to drop a lot of friends to get clean.
I still can't watch the movie Spun :lol: and I quit7 years ago.


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: amungus]
    #18587690 - 07/20/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Meth is a dumb drug.

You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.

Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #18589178 - 07/21/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Meth is a dumb drug.

You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.

Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.



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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #18589446 - 07/21/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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x7x_x7x said:








Well, I guess this explains why in my area (and having lived in the 3rd largest city in my state) I have only seen meth once in 17 years outside of a "dirty" MDMA pill.


Once.


My area is nowhere near a primary or secondary transport line on that map. Plus there's a lot of cocaine around. :shrug:


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18589478 - 07/21/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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I live in New York. I've had a friend become addicted to meth and go through rehab several times. It definitely changed her appearance--rotting teeth, prematurely aged skin--not pretty.



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stuff seems non existent here in NJ. Once in a blue moon you hear of a big bust for it, but not once have I been offered it, met someone on it/with connects for it, or been around it.
And I'm kind of happy about it.


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #18589504 - 07/21/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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CaptainAhab said:
Meth is a dumb drug.

You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.

Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.



this was oddly specific...


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #18590177 - 07/21/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
Meth is a dumb drug.

You do it, then stay awake doing OCD shit and masturbating a semi to dirty porno. Count me not on that fun boat.

Scumbags usually do it, too, because it's a scummy drug. Dirty women with stank pussies, butt hair, fleas and shag carpet style white trash. KFC wrappers on the floorboards of beat up 80's toyota camrys. Roll on generic deodorant and keystone light, Newport 100s. Stank pussies.




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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: un-known-ome]
    #18591066 - 07/21/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't want to sound stupid, but how is it that I don't know anyone who uses meth? It doesn't seem like I do. I never hear about it, even. I live in the NE, however.



Due to the stigma about meth, coupled with the paranoia caused by meth, meth users are very secretive.

You may never know anyone who uses meth, but as soon as you meet one and become better friends, they all spring out from the bushes.


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18592967 - 07/22/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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If we start on car accidents, what would the statistics say.

Drunk driving fatalities 2010 (USA): 10,228



Non-drunk driving automobile fatalities 2010 (USA): 22,655
So do we conclude that driving sober is twice as dangerous driving drunk?

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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: roquet] * 1
    #18593870 - 07/22/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
If we start on car accidents, what would the statistics say.

Drunk driving fatalities 2010 (USA): 10,228



Non-drunk driving automobile fatalities 2010 (USA): 22,655
So do we conclude that driving sober is twice as dangerous driving drunk?



We would only conclude that if there were exactly as many people driving drunk as people driving sober... But divide the number of drunk accidents by the number of drunk drivers and you'll have a far higher quota than when you do the number of sober accidents by the number of sober drivers...


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: unfastened belts] * 1
    #18594128 - 07/22/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #18594530 - 07/22/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Looking at all that cash just makes me drool.  I daydream about running in there with two big garbage bags and rolling the fuck out like Santa.:awesome:

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