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Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa)
    #18575017 - 07/18/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Hey all,

I've been trying to get some acid for a few weeks. I'm pretty sure I have a solid connection but he's proving hard to get hold of atm.

I've been debating Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) because they contain LSA right? I'm not expecting an acid trip or anything too similar. I just wanted to know if these things are good as I've never heard of them before shroomery.

Also, is Azarius.net a good place to buy from? Is £6.70 or £8 alright for 10 seeds? How many would you advise etc? I've tripped on shrooms twice, salvia a few times

Cheers!


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18575031 - 07/18/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I'd do a chemical extraction to prevent negative side-effects. By themselves, without doing an extraction they are supposed to be pretty horrid; heavy body-load, vasoconstriction, nausea, vomiting, etcetera.

Here's a link to a chemical extraction I'm going to be doing in a couple of weeks. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18549238#18549238

I'm using 100 seeds myself because they are relatively cheap. Shop around and you'll find good prices.


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18575132 - 07/18/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: s240779]
    #18575492 - 07/18/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

You can get them really cheap off eBay ..


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Calebd22]
    #18575502 - 07/18/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Just make sure you're getting the actual Hawaiian strain. 

It depends on what method you use to take them, but even 5-7 seeds is enough to have a nice trip

I recommend doing an extraction tho, if you just crush up the seeds and eat them you are going to have a significant body load.  One time after eating 7 seeds crushed up in lemon juice, I had a good trip but I could barely walk after a few hours, lol


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Calebd22]
    #18575758 - 07/18/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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You can get them really cheap off eBay ..




How likely are ones off ebay to be psychadelic/active?

Can anyone recommend a really easy/effective extraction where I get all the goodies without the nausea? (a lot to ask I know).


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18575763 - 07/18/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

That was already done for you via my link and 22carat's link.


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: s240779]
    #18575827 - 07/18/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

There all psychoactive just make sure you order the "genuine Hawaiian" type tho. I could maybe provide a link if you would like ?


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18575874 - 07/18/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I've only done with LSA once, and all I did was crush up 10 HBWR seeds and leave them in a bottle of water (about a quarter of the way full) for a week. Then I proceeded to filter out the seed mush with coffee filters, and slammed the liquid.

I wasn't really too impressed with it. I had a decent body buzz but there weren't really any visuals.  :shrug:


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18575897 - 07/18/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

If you do decide to get them and consume them DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT forget to take the outside skin off the seeds.
And rocky were did you store your mixture for that week ?
Could be the reason for just a small buzz of 10seeds


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Calebd22]
    #18575914 - 07/18/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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That was already done for you via my link and 22carat's link.




Thank you!

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There all psychoactive just make sure you order the "genuine Hawaiian" type tho. I could maybe provide a link if you would like ?




That would be awesome.

The Hoffman extraction looks a little complicated, though I am totally baked right now.

I just found this:

To dose, you don't have to remove all the shell, but just the dark-brown" stuff off loosely on the seed.  Then use the following method:  Grind the seeds up or crush really well.  Then soak the crushed/ground seeds in purified water for about 24 hours.  After the 24 hours, strain off the seed mass from the liquid using pantyhose, a sieve, cheesecloth, or if nothing else is available a coffee filter. 

Then to dose, drink the "tea" very slowly over a period of 20-40 minutes, and either drink a small glass of water, or a few large "gulps" after each sip of the "tea."  This process removes the "toxins" and reduces or negates the nausea sometimes associated with taking LSA containing seeds.

Note: the fuzzy "dark-brown" coating on the outside contains cyanogenic glycosides which can make you really sick if you eat enough (same kind of stuff in apple seeds).

NOTE:  You MUST use cold purified water for this process.  Tap water contains chemicals that break down the desired alkaloids.  Hot water also does this.

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Does anyone know if this works? Will the water filter/jug in my fridge purify the water enough?


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Calebd22]
    #18575926 - 07/18/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I scraped the outside coating off with a knife. Forgot to add that. And I just stored them in my closet in the dark.


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18575959 - 07/18/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe they sat in the water too long . They say just over night .
But as long as closet was dark then idk why you didn't have a good trip..
Light destroys LSA .. I have no clue what went wrong .
Sorry to hear that though .


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Calebd22]
    #18575977 - 07/18/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't really mind. I had an alright body buzz (no nausea either) and my pupils were like saucers, but it was just lacking in visuals :shrug:


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18575992 - 07/18/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Did you see the walls move or "breathe"
That's the most common visual for  LSA from what I have researched .


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Calebd22]
    #18575999 - 07/18/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

The only visuals I really noticed was some movement on my hardwood floor.


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18576453 - 07/18/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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teenagehippie said:
The Hoffman extraction looks a little complicated, though I am totally baked right now.

I just found this:

To dose, you don't have to remove all the shell, but just the dark-brown" stuff off loosely on the seed.





It's only part of hsi extraction and it's not complicated. Read more carefully.


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There is nothing in the seed coat that makes you sick.  That is a myth.  The sickness is caused by glycosides found inside the seed.  I've eaten seeds scraped and not scraped and there is no difference what-so-ever in the degree of sickness produced.

26-03-2004 - morninggloryseed - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/123944-LSA-s-Subthread-Extraction-of-LSA-s?p=1779004&viewfull=1#post1779004


Kinda off the subject, but I am in the process of writing FAQs on the "fuzzy layer myth" of baby woodrose seeds, as well as a bit of info on adrenochrome (which is active, though the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas in not a good reference for what it actually does.) I will present both of course when they are ready and they will include proper citations of relevant data.

07-12-2003 - morninggloryseed - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/109304-Combo-Subthread-Psychedelics-amp-Amphetamines?p=1456101&highlight=fuzzy#post1456101




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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: s240779]
    #18584128 - 07/20/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yuck. Go invest in some Mimosa hostilis root bark and Syrian rue seeds and give ayahuasca a go.


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Fronnis]
    #18584189 - 07/20/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I get some interesting visuals and auditory hallucinations on LSA

I often see these wavy, colorful lines in the air when I'm listening to music. 

If I'm watching a movie sometimes it seems like the sounds are coming from many directions and things get generally louder too


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Re: Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa) [Re: Melkor]
    #18584230 - 07/20/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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If I'm watching a movie sometimes it seems like the sounds are coming from many directions and things get generally louder too




This reminds me of television or video games during a mushroom trip.

I've had some pretty interesting visuals from Morning Glory Seeds but the euphoria was the focal point of effects.


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