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Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs
    #18581162 - 07/19/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs
July 18, 2013

Washington—Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairman of the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control, today introduced the Protecting Our Youth from Dangerous Synthetic Drugs Act of 2013 to combat synthetic drugs designed to mimic the effects of controlled substances and circumvent existing federal drug laws. These so-called controlled substance analogues are currently unregulated.

The bill is co-sponsored by Senators Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).

Many of the estimated 200 controlled substance analogues on the market today are designed to mimic the effects of hallucinogenic drugs like ecstasy, PCP and LSD, as well as THC, the principal chemical in marijuana.

“Traffickers of dangerous synthetic drugs continue to circumvent federal law by altering the chemical structure of their products and finding new markets for distribution, particularly among young people.” said Senator Feinstein.

The Obama Administration has conducted two nationwide operations targeting the importation, manufacture and distribution of designer synthetic drugs – Operation LogJam in July 2012 and Operation Synergy in June 2013.

These operations resulted in the seizure of $93 million in cash and assets; the removal of at least 10 tons of synthetic drugs from the supply chain; 318 arrests; and the execution of 681 search warrants, including at least 29 for drug manufacturing facilities.

Feinstein added, “This bill gives law enforcement the necessary tools to prosecute and bring to justice individuals who produce and distribute unregulated synthetic drugs.”

The Protecting Our Youth from Dangerous Synthetic Drugs Act of 2013:
  • Establishes an inter-agency committee of scientists headed by the Drug Enforcement Administration and responsible for establishing and maintaining an administrative list of controlled substance analogues.

  • Makes it illegal to import a controlled substance analogue unless the importation is intended for non-human use. (Virtually all substance analogues arrive in bulk from outside the United States).

  • Directs the U.S. Sentencing Commission to review, and if appropriate, amend the federal sentencing guidelines for violations of the Controlled Substances Act pertaining to controlled substance analogues.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Ythan]
    #18581178 - 07/19/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

God damn it, now I'll have to import drugs illegally.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Ythan]
    #18581241 - 07/19/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

They really have no plan to stop prohibition at all eh...

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Simplepowa]
    #18581431 - 07/19/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: weshroom]
    #18581665 - 07/19/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

im thrilled.
every time they wage war on substance,
it gets better , stronger and more plentiful.

let fienstien wave the flag for the RC 500!


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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: anne halonium] * 2
    #18581788 - 07/19/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

In other news, Mexico is celebrating the opening 20 new research laboratories and 65 production facilities along the US border.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: lazyfingers]
    #18582024 - 07/19/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

My rats Buster and Theodore intend to use them (AL-LAD). :smile:

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: blitzd]
    #18582063 - 07/19/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

One thing is for sure., the war on drugs is being won and the demand is down. The world is becoming a safer place.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Ogla]
    #18582169 - 07/19/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Ythan]
    #18582423 - 07/19/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:
im thrilled.
every time they wage war on substance,
it gets better , stronger and more plentiful.

let fienstien wave the flag for the RC 500!








Did you even read the OP, or just fail to grasp the implications?


If this goes through, I can almost guarantee you this will be the end of the RC scene as we know it. This is the "big one" I knew was coming, for a long time. Fucking hell.




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Ythan said:
Establishes an inter-agency committee of scientists headed by the Drug Enforcement Administration and responsible for establishing and maintaining an administrative list of controlled substance analogues.






That, IMHO is the important point. What it means (assuming I'm interpreting this correctly) is that the DEA will now have a group of scientists whose job it will be to decide which chemicals are considered analogs.  The way it works presently (theoretically-- though it hasn't worked this way in practice for many who are intimidated into taking plea deals)  some of these chemicals are illegal if they share a substantial structural similarity, and it can be proven that your intent was for human consumption. Theoretically this would be decided in a court case. But if this goes through, a DEA panel will decide on a "list of analogs." Forget courts, and having it decided by a jury of your peers whether or not you violated the necessary points for an analog conviction-- these are the drugs we call analogs-- possess them and you are guilty of a crime, flat-out, point blank, do not pass go, do not collect $200....

I hope I'm interpreting that wrong, but it seems like it's what they're going for. That would be a far more ideal situation for them in guaranteeing convictions. I can almost guarantee if it ends up that way, they will begin going after some end-customers, instead of just vendors....


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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18582903 - 07/19/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Why are they complaining about the substances being unregulated? Can they not think of a solution? It would clearly make their children safer if they did decide to properly regulate them, but they're still taking the same ineffectual approaches that they have for decades. They either have ulterior motives, touting that their ideologies and efforts are for the greater good (they clearly have the parents fooled), or they're just so isolated from the populace that they don't fully understand the consequences of their actions.

Either way, they're not acting on behalf of the American people, but for their own selfish interests. With that said, moral and fiscal persuasion has never been enough to stop them, and the disgruntled populace is too passive to take action, so it's obviously going to get worse before it gets better.

The problems with marijuana prohibition seem to be slowly improving, however, but other psychoactives aren't given similar consideration.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Terratic]
    #18583097 - 07/19/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Way to go. Pump more scarce money into this hopeless campaign, throw more people into overcrowded jails, spend even more money hiring DEA airheads that do little more than sit around and spread their worthless egos around. The existence of a DEA agent is one that is hopeless beyond salvation and undeserving of ANY type of compassion or kindness.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Ythan]
    #18583220 - 07/19/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Ythan said:
Protecting Our Youth from Dangerous Synthetic Drugs Act of 2013




Im glad someone is thinking of the children.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: mrckb] * 3
    #18583350 - 07/20/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This fucking stupid 80-year-old (yes, she was born in 1933) cunt just can't do enough to make Nixon and Nancy Reagan proud.  Why can't she just have a fucking stroke or aneurysm and wind up face down on her desk twitching and convulsing?  SOOOOOO fucking sick of this stupid cunt faced whore deciding policy.  Yep, I'm part of her constituency, and between her and Boxer I just can't believe how much of a dynasty politics can become.  GET THE FUCK OUT ALREADY YOU TIRED FUCKING CUNT WHORE.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: dokunai]
    #18583849 - 07/20/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

mrckb said:
Quote:

Ythan said:
Protecting Our Youth from Dangerous Synthetic Drugs Act of 2013




Im glad someone is thinking of the children.




This.

Quote:

dokunai said:
This fucking stupid 80-year-old (yes, she was born in 1933) cunt just can't do enough to make Nixon and Nancy Reagan proud.  Why can't she just have a fucking stroke or aneurysm and wind up face down on her desk twitching and convulsing?  SOOOOOO fucking sick of this stupid cunt faced whore deciding policy.  Yep, I'm part of her constituency, and between her and Boxer I just can't believe how much of a dynasty politics can become.  GET THE FUCK OUT ALREADY YOU TIRED FUCKING CUNT WHORE.




RAGE.  U mad bro?  Bisco fan detected...

I'm pretty sure 100% of RC's are created for the sole purpose of profit, there is no 'love' or 'compassion' or 'unity' etc. or any of the hippie/ fake-hippie shit that goes along with some of the real drugs that have been around awhile.  At this expense of profit you sacrifice health, mental and physical.  Do you know whats going to happen to you in 15 years because of that RC binge you had?  No... no one does.  I know a girl that is AFOAF with permanent (so far) brain damage of sorts (everything is too loud/bright) because of ONE 2ci or 2ce trip years ago.  This shit is dangerous, we don't know how it effects our brain chemistry in the long run.  There have been a ton of shroomerites writing about feeling brain-fried after 25i 'brain sizzling', 'burntout' etc. does that sound healthy to you??? enough said. 

Edited by Rumblefishtwist (07/20/13 07:01 AM)

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Rumblefishtwist] * 1
    #18583899 - 07/20/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure most RCs were created during the course of legitimate research.
Later to be appropriated by profit motivated individuals.

Do you think any clandestine LSD/MDMA/etc. production operation has a wholly altruistic motive?


How about instead of taking these compounds, sight unseen, out of the hands of researchers we take a cautious, evidence based approach to drug control.

Banning something always removes it from free scientific investigation, never removes it from the black market and invariably makes the drug more dangerous than it would have been.

Hey, this shit has worked so well for the first decades of the drug war, lets double down!  :flowstone:


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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18584492 - 07/20/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Well, after a little more digging it's looking like I was right. They are attempting to amend the Controlled Substances Act. This is THE END of "Research Chemicals" as we know them, if this passes. And I think we all know this is going to pass.



Quote:

ALB13608 S.L.C.

ALB13608 S.L.C.

S. ll
To address the continued threat posed by dangerous synthetic drugs by
amending the Controlled Substances Act relating to controlled substance
analogues.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

llllllllll

Mrs. FEINSTEIN introduced the following bill; which was read twice and
referred to the Committee on llllllllll

A BILL


To address the continued threat posed by dangerous synthetic
drugs by amending the Controlled Substances Act
relating to controlled substance analogues.

1
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2
tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
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SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
4
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Protecting Our Youth
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from Dangerous Synthetic Drugs Act of 2013’’.
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SEC. 2. ENFORCEMENT.
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(a) IN GENERAL.—The Controlled Substances Act
8
(21 U.S.C. 801 et seq) is amended—



ALB13608 S.L.C.


2


(1) in section 102(32), by striking subparagraph
(A) and inserting the following:
‘‘(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (C),
the term ‘controlled substance analogue’ means—
‘‘(i) a substance whose chemical structure
is substantially similar to the chemical structure
of a controlled substance in schedule I or
II—

‘‘(I) which has a stimulant, depressant,
or hallucinogenic effect on the central
nervous system that is substantially similar
to or greater than the stimulant, depressant,
or hallucinogenic effect on the central
nervous system of a controlled substance in
schedule I or II; or

‘‘(II) with respect to a particular person,
which such person represents or intends
to have a stimulant, depressant, or
hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous
system that is substantially similar to or
greater than the stimulant, depressant, or
hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous
system of a controlled substance in schedule
I or II; or


ALB13608 S.L.C.


3


‘‘(ii) a substance designated as a controlled
substance analogue by the Controlled Substance
Analogue Committee in accordance with section
201(i).’’; and

(2) in section 201, by adding at the end the following:
‘‘(i)(1) The Attorney General, in consultation with
the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall establish
an interagency committee, to be known as the Controlled
Substance Analogue Committee (referred to in this
subsection as the ‘Committee’).

‘‘(2) The Committee shall be—
‘‘(A) headed by the Administrator of the Drug
Enforcement Administration; and
‘‘(B) comprised of scientific experts in the fields

of chemistry and pharmacology from—
‘‘(i) the Drug Enforcement Administration;
‘‘(ii) the National Institute on Drug Abuse;
‘‘(iii) the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention; and

‘‘(iv) any other Federal agency determined
by the Attorney General, in consultation with
the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
to be appropriate.


ALB13608 S.L.C.


4


‘‘(3)(A) The Committee shall convene, on an as needed
basis, to establish and maintain a list of controlled substance
analogues.

‘‘(B) A substance may be designated as a controlled
substance analogue by the Committee under this subsection
if the substance is determined by the Committee
to be similar to a Schedule I or II controlled substance
in either its chemical structure or its predictive effect on
the body, in such a manner as to make it likely that the
substance will, or can be reasonably expected to have a
potential for abuse.

‘‘(C) Evidence of human consumption by an individual
or the public at large is not necessary before a substance
may be designated as a controlled substance analogue
under this subsection.

‘‘(D) The Attorney General shall, through rule-
making, establish procedures of operation for the Committee.


‘‘(4)(A) Not later than 30 days before each meeting
of the Committee, the Attorney General shall submit to
the Secretary of Health and Human Services a notice of
the meeting of the Committee, which shall include—

‘‘(i) a list of the substances to be considered by

the Committee during the meeting for designation as

a controlled substance analogue; and


ALB13608 S.L.C.


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‘‘(ii) a request for the Secretary of Health and
Human Services to make a determination of whether
an exemption or approval for each substance listed
under clause (i) is in effect under section 505 of the
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.
355).
‘‘(B) Not later than 30 days after the date on which

the Secretary of Health and Human Services receives notice
under subparagraph (A), the Secretary shall submit
to the Attorney General a written response to the request
described under subparagraph (A)(ii). The Committee
shall consider the response submitted by the Secretary of
Health and Human Services in determining whether to
designate a substance considered by the Committee at the
meeting as a controlled substance analogue.

‘‘(5)(A) The Attorney General shall publish in the
Federal Register any designation made by the Committee
under this subsection.

‘‘(B) The Administrator of the Drug Enforcement
Administration shall publish, on the website of the Drug
Enforcement Administration, a description of each designation
made by the Committee under this subsection,
which shall include—

‘‘(i) the chemical and common name of the controlled
substance analogue;


ALB13608 S.L.C.


6


‘‘(ii) the effective date of the determination, as

described in paragraph (6)(A); and

‘‘(iii) any Schedule I or II controlled substance

that the Committee has determined a substance is

an analogue of.

‘‘(6) A designation made by the Committee under this
subsection shall take effect on the date that is 30 days
after the date on which the designation is published in
the Federal Register under paragraph (5)(A).

‘‘(7) If a substance designated as a controlled substance
analogue by the Committee under this section is
subsequently scheduled through a rulemaking proceeding
under subsection (a), (d), or (h), the substance shall be
automatically removed from the controlled substance analogue
list.

‘‘(8) If a defendant challenges the designation of a
controlled substance analogue made by the Committee
under this subsection the issue shall be considered a question
of law.’’.

(b) FUNDING.—Section 111(b)(2)(B) of Public Law
102–395 (21 U.S.C. 886a(2)(B)) is amended by inserting
‘‘controlled substance analogues,’’ after ‘‘substances,’’.

ALB13608 S.L.C.


7


SEC. 3. IMPORTATION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ANALOGUES.

Section 1002 of the Controlled Substances Import
and Export Act (21 U.S.C. 952) is amended—

(1) by redesignating subsections (c) through (e)
as subsections (d) through (f), respectively; and
(2) by inserting after subsection (b) the following:
‘‘(c) It shall be unlawful to import into the customs
territory of the United States from any place outside
thereof (but within the United States), or to import into
the United States from any place outside thereof, any controlled
substance analogue designated pursuant to section
201(i) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C.
811(i)) unless the controlled substance analogue is imported
pursuant to such notification or declaration as the
Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.’’.

SEC. 4. DIRECTIVE TO SENTENCING COMMISSION.

(a) IN GENERAL.—Pursuant to its authority under
section 994 of title 28, United States Code, the United
States Sentencing Commission shall review and, if appropriate,
amend the Federal sentencing guidelines and policy
statements to ensure the guidelines and policy statements
provide adequate penalties for any offense involving the
unlawful manufacturing, importing, exporting, or trafficking
of controlled substance analogues under part D of

ALB13608 S.L.C.


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the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 841 et seq.) or
part A of the Controlled Substances Import and Export
Act (21 U.S.C. 951 et seq.) and similar offenses, including
unlawful possession, possession with intent to commit any
of the foregoing offenses, and attempt and conspiracy to
commit any of the foregoing offenses.

(b) COMMISSION DUTIES.—In carrying out this section,
the Sentencing Commission shall—
(1) ensure that the sentences, guidelines, and
policy statements relating to offenders convicted of
these offenses are appropriately severe and reasonably
consistent with other relevant directives and
other Federal sentencing guidelines and policy statements;
(2) make any necessary conforming changes to
the Federal sentencing guidelines; and
(3) assure that the guidelines adequately meet
the purposes of sentencing as set forth in section
3553(a)(2) of title 18, United States Code.





http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=4f0e4d31-38fd-4d58-a93f-f11f7e8b03fa


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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18584584 - 07/20/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

CidneyIndole said:
Quote:

anne halonium said:
im thrilled.
every time they wage war on substance,
it gets better , stronger and more plentiful.

let fienstien wave the flag for the RC 500!








Did you even read the OP, or just fail to grasp the implications?


If this goes through, I can almost guarantee you this will be the end of the RC scene as we know it. This is the "big one" I knew was coming, for a long time. Fucking hell.








As we know it....yes.

Banned RC's are still in the streets though and to my suprise purity levels have remained high.

Heroin purity is also at a high point.

Now we just need to stop buying shitty coke(shitty H never lasts on the market because the users NEED a potent product) and perhaps the purity of that will rise as well.


All that being said, this is some pretty shitty news.

The worst part is how they just raided and seized these peoples shit.

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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: Rumblefishtwist] * 1
    #18584594 - 07/20/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Rumblefishtwist said:
Quote:

dokunai said:
This fucking stupid 80-year-old (yes, she was born in 1933) cunt just can't do enough to make Nixon and Nancy Reagan proud.  Why can't she just have a fucking stroke or aneurysm and wind up face down on her desk twitching and convulsing?  SOOOOOO fucking sick of this stupid cunt faced whore deciding policy.  Yep, I'm part of her constituency, and between her and Boxer I just can't believe how much of a dynasty politics can become.  GET THE FUCK OUT ALREADY YOU TIRED FUCKING CUNT WHORE.




RAGE.  U mad bro?  Bisco fan detected...

I'm pretty sure 100% of RC's are created for the sole purpose of profit, there is no 'love' or 'compassion' or 'unity' etc. or any of the hippie/ fake-hippie shit that goes along with some of the real drugs that have been around awhile.  At this expense of profit you sacrifice health, mental and physical.  Do you know whats going to happen to you in 15 years because of that RC binge you had?  No... no one does.  I know a girl that is AFOAF with permanent (so far) brain damage of sorts (everything is too loud/bright) because of ONE 2ci or 2ce trip years ago.  This shit is dangerous, we don't know how it effects our brain chemistry in the long run.  There have been a ton of shroomerites writing about feeling brain-fried after 25i 'brain sizzling', 'burntout' etc. does that sound healthy to you??? enough said. 








Hell yeah, he's mad. And so am I. And dokunai is right-- this rotting geriatric bitch needs to catch the cancer, or hopefully something a little quicker-- like a heart attack, or an aneurism, or maybe even a car accident on those dangerous Cali roads.


This bill, like most prohibitionist legislation is not entirely for the public good. And this is a somewhat complicated case. Look, I'll be the first to admit that some of the "research chemicals" that have come out are more dangerous than they should be. Hell, I bet you that I want to see 25i banned worse than the bitch sponsoring this bill. That stuff never should have made it to the market-- and I guarantee you that 25i and the deaths and hospitalizations associated with 25i are a BIG part of the reason we're seeing this legislation proposed. (So thanks a lot to all the assholes vending 25i, and doubly so for those dealing it on the street as a drug.  With a note of "thanks" for the runners up-- those making / selling "smoking blends" and "bath salts"... you guys are "aweome"(ly stupid) too!)


But it's not all black and white. Let me explain to you what I see here.



This does not only protect the kids, and uneducated users, and unscrupulous vendors / dealers from getting their hands on dangerous "research chemicals" (if it even does that much)...  It also prevents responsible, educated people from getting them, for one. (Or at least, makes it harder for them to get, and increases legal penalties if they do get their hands on them-- as if more people in jail cells is really what this country needs-- as if that is really the best thing for the public)....


But it also may prevent smaller "independent" researchers and "amateur" experimenters from conducting research and furthering human knowledge and understanding   People who don't have millions / billions of dollars or a Big Pharma company, or university backing them. Sure, it probably won't prevent larger, more influential groups from doing research. But Big Pharma already has a green light from the DEA to experiment on pretty much anything that isn't crack or heroin. (I exaggerate, of course-- but not by much.)

But what I really see in this bill that frightens and disgusts me is this-- The likely potential for corruption.

We have a group, an organization, whose very existence is predicated on drug laws, and drugs being illegal, and busting people for drugs. An organization whose funding in large part comes from the seizure of money and assets from so-called "drug crimes."  We have this organization, now put in charge of deciding which new chemicals may now be considered "illegal drugs" and therefore within their jurisdiction to enforce.  So this group can now create new business for themselves. New criminals, with newly seizeable assets-- based solely on their say-so.

That absolutely reeeks of the stench of corruption so bad I want to vomit just thinking of it.

Does anybody know if any of the head hacks at the DEA, or this Feinstein, or Schumer, or any of these other assholes (or all of them) hold stakes / interests in the privatized prison industry?  That would not surprise me at all.

This shit needs to stop. Sure, we need a solution to 25i and others like it-- but they are trying to take the power to decide criminal cases out of the hands of a jury of your peers, and handing it over to the corrupt DEA. And the corrupt DEA is being given greater powers to decide what is and is not illegal. Again, this shit really needs to be blocked.

Hey dokunai-- do you happen to have a truck?  :hellfire:


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Re: Feinstein Introduces Bill to Combat Dangerous Synthetic Drugs [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18584611 - 07/20/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Very well put, i live in a constant state of fear of my country :sad:

Real shit.

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