d33p said:
My penis is 3 feet long. Since you have no way to prove it isnt, it must be true. Untill you have undefinable evidence that it isnt 3 feet long you are wrong.
That is pretty much the logic you are using for your arguements. You make up a random statement and say that it must be true untill shak can prove it isnt. Obviously shak wont poll the world so he can never live up to your terms of proving it is false. You have made an unwinable arguement that is ultimatly wrong. I see to much of that here.
And all i see is another blind person dogmatically buying into the popular hate of bush this forums upholds.
Hmm.. I was kind of thinking that blindly accepting everything that the media tells you to believe in America as the Truth is ignorant and dogmatic...
Going to the whole "can't prove me it wrong", CIRCULAR reasoning huh? We see a lot of that in Spirituality and Philsophy...
So, the world is our FRIENDS, then, and they just go around accepting what Bush is doing as the right thing? Hmm.. it isn't so hard to prove that wrong. Check this out, from KRT Wire (notice that this was back in February):
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Bush's image in Europe takes a negative turn
By FAWN VRAZO and DANIEL RUBIN
Knight Ridder Newspapers
LONDON - Even before he took office, Europeans regarded President Bush as a cowboy, a mental lightweight with an itchy trigger finger and a me-first view of the world.
Now, with war looming, Bush's image overseas is taking an even more negative shift - so negative, in fact, that recent polls say Bush is as big a threat as Saddam Hussein.
Smirks at the president's down-home style and supposed lack of intelligence have largely died down, to be replaced by fears that his push for war could hurt Europeans where they live - either because war will widen into world conflict or because it will provoke more terrorist attacks at home.
As Chris Martin, singer for the pop band Coldplay declared at the Brit music awards - the British Grammys_ last week: "We are all going to die when George Bush has his way."
The most recent European poll on attitudes toward Bush, done by the YouGov organization for the Sunday Times of London last weekend, found an equal number - 45 percent - regarded Bush and Saddam as the "greatest threat to world peace." Last month, a poll by Germany's independent Forsa polling agency found much the same: 38 percent thought Saddam was the greatest threat; 37 percent picked Bush.
In France's popular Paris Match magazine, a poll last week reported that 76 percent of those questioned had a bad opinion of Bush; only 15 percent liked him.
The same negative opinions are easy to find on any street in Europe, where the name George W. Bush often produces instant rancor.
Said Charalambos Theodoridis, 62, a Greek-born television storeowner in Berlin: "Every time I see him open his mouth on television I am in fear of what he will say. And it is always something about Iraq, war with Iraq, war with Saddam, ignoring everything else in the world."
The anti-Bush feelings have no immediate strategic influence, say military experts, because tens of thousands of U.S. and U.K. troops are already in place and poised for an invasion of Iraq. But Bush's lack of respect abroad makes it difficult for the president to convince ordinary Europeans of the need for war; in turn, European leaders feel pressured by anti-war majorities in their countries.
While Bush may not need Europe's help to wage war in Iraq, European support for the rebuilding of Iraq could be critical.
Still, it's not certain that war led by a more popular president would play any better here.
Henryk Broder, a pro-American writer for Der Spiegel in Germany, feels "it's America, not Bush, that is the problem for Europeans, although his preaching tone and limited capacities do make him an easier target." Europeans are worried, he said, by "the fact that America is demanding the leading role in the world. Another president would be blamed as much as Bush is blamed."
But few presidents have gotten off to such a bad start overseas as Bush. From the beginning, he was unpopular on several counts.
His administration's step-back from international treaties, from the Kyoto global warming accord to the anti-ballistic missile treaty, contributed to a view that the new U.S. president didn't care about the rest of the world.
His straight and simple speaking style also didn't play well with a European public that found Bill Clinton to be sophisticated and eloquent.
Bush's manner of speaking "is rather strange to a British audience," said Rodney Barker, professor of government at the London School of Economics. "It's as if he doesn't speak a whole paragraph. He says a sentence. And then pauses. And then another sentence … as if each sentence were a self-contained little speech."
More upsetting have been Bush's frequent religious references - especially in parts of Europe that are barely religious anymore. In many recent European conflicts, from Northern Ireland to Kosovo, religious differences played the main role, as they did in many earlier European wars.
With war with Iraq on the horizon, religious talk from a U.S. president is raising fears of a religious crusade _a word, many here remember, that Bush once used to describe the war on terrorism.
"For world-weary Europe, the presidential language evokes mirth and queasiness in equal measure," wrote Rupert Cornwell in Britain's Independent newspaper. "A European leader who spoke in such terms would be laughed off the stage. An American one who speaks this way only increases the fear that simplicities of faith, and a habit of seeing a hideously complicated world in a black-and-white, good-and-evil fashion, are a recipe for disaster."
"George Bush is not an idiot," said commentator Christian Boltanski in France's Le Monde newspaper, "but he is convinced he is inspired by God and he is dangerous."
Bush is hardly the first U.S. president to be unpopular here.
"Ronald Reagan was very unpopular in Europe - seen as very narrow, very insular," said University of Keele lecturer John Dumbrell, author of the 2001 book "A Special Relationship: Anglo-American relations in the cold war and after."
Reagan was most unpopular when NATO - at Germany's request - introduced a plan to deploy cruise missiles in England and throughout western Europe, provoking large protest marches. At that time, Reagan's unpopularity seemed driven by the fact that Europeans were worried that his policies could trigger a nuclear war - just as many worry now that Bush's war plans could hurt them at home.
In another recent YouGov poll, 49 percent of Britons thought it likely that Britain's cooperation in a war against Iraq would increase terrorist attacks in Britain. Respondents had more fears about terrorist attacks or about the war spreading to the Middle East than they did about deaths of Iraqi civilians or British troops.
As negative as Bush's ratings are overseas, a silver lining for his administration is that he is less often dismissed as a leader without intellect.
His drive for war has meant that "he's not characterized as dumb as much as he used to be," observed Julie Smith, head of the European program for the Royal Institute of International Affairs think tank in London. "All of a sudden, people might say he's dangerous. But they're not saying he's a clot." A fool, that is.
(Vrazo reported from London, Rubin from Berlin. Knight Ridder Newspapers correspondents Andrea Gerlin in London and Ken Dilanian in Rome contributed to this report.)
And this was before he had justified his war if evidence that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction there, and none have turned up so far.. Saddam is still alive, just like Osama Bin Ladin. As Saddam has always did what he could do to stay in power, stay alive, and try to make the U.S. look bad, there must have been a reason he prompted the war..
And it is true. Most everyone (95% is pretty accurate) regard Bush as a direct threat to world peace and a deadly threat. It is seen that he is onlyy promoting his own agenda and will bring on a lot of bad things..
Not realizing what is really going on around you, especially on a world wide scale, is definitely what I call ignorant... what makes you offer your unwavering support of Bush?
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