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 Cornholio
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 IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? 
#1857740 - 08/28/03 04:37 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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 luvdemshrooms
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Cornholio]
#1857907 - 08/28/03 05:42 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lincoln. In 1862 he signed an income tax law and gave us the IRS.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Cornholio
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1857968 - 08/28/03 06:42 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ahhh, you're just mad he helped free the slaves. 
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Cornholio]
#1857985 - 08/28/03 06:52 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jimmy Carter, he was a pussy in office and out of office. His problem was that he was NOT a leader but a pacifier.
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1858012 - 08/28/03 07:09 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you meant warmonger not leader.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Cornholio]
#1858025 - 08/28/03 07:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cornholio said:
Ahhh, you're just mad he helped free the slaves.
No sorry. There should have never been slaves.
There also should never have been an income tax. That was the Fed's first big power grab and it opened the door to so many things that we all hate.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1858027 - 08/28/03 07:17 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innvertigo said:
Jimmy Carter, he was a pussy in office and out of office. His problem was that he was NOT a leader but a pacifier.
Very astute.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1858034 - 08/28/03 07:20 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had to vote for Bush snr, on the basis of his voice and face...
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Cornholio
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1858053 - 08/28/03 07:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innvertigo said:
Jimmy Carter, he was a pussy in office and out of office. His problem was that he was NOT a leader but a pacifier.
luvdemshrooms said:
Very astute.
A pacifier is one who makes peace, right? So if a pacifier is not a leader (  ), I guess you must think Bush is a true leader! 
Or am I misunderstanding what you meant???
Edit: I think Gazzbut might have explained it, perhaps you meant "warmonger", not "leader".
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Edited by Cornholio (08/28/03 07:38 AM)
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Cornholio]
#1858084 - 08/28/03 07:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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A pacifier isn't neccessary someone who makes peace, sometimes they can be more like appeasers. A leader is someone who can stand strong in the face of adversity and stand up for what they believe is right.
And strangely enough, Bush does meet these criteria, he faced the September 11th tragedy (I dont mean on the day but as a whole) and he is fighting for a cause he believes to be right.
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Innvertigo
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: GazzBut]
#1858089 - 08/28/03 07:44 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you meant warmonger not leader.
no i meant pacifier, learn to read.
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Cornholio]
#1858102 - 08/28/03 07:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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A pacifier is one who makes peace, right?
no, a pacifier is someone who tries to make everyone happy without actually making any tough decision on his own. Carter was a nice guy but was NO leader.
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I guess you must think Bush is a true leader!
don't put words in my mouth (i know it's tough).
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Or am I misunderstanding what you meant???
yes you did.
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I think Gazzbut might have explained it, perhaps you meant "warmonger", not "leader".
either way you would be mistaken
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America....FUCK YEAH!!!
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1858127 - 08/28/03 08:03 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innvertigo said:
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I think you meant warmonger not leader.
no i meant pacifier, learn to read.
If it's any consolation.... I knew what you meant and Carter was indeed that.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Innvertigo
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1858152 - 08/28/03 08:17 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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it really wouldn't matter what i said, the responses would have been the same. To say that carter was effective in any part of his presidency would be a joke. Compare his leadership ability with ANY of those listed above and the result would be the same. I would change my vote if the poll was switched to "who is the most dangerous to our rights", but even then he would be near the bottom.
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1858202 - 08/28/03 08:42 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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no i meant pacifier, learn to read.
Well reading your posts for a while now has taught me to read between the lines to get at what you REALLY mean!! 
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: GazzBut]
#1858211 - 08/28/03 08:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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GazzBut said:
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no i meant pacifier, learn to read.
Well reading your posts for a while now has taught me to read between the lines to get at what you REALLY mean!!
Then you've not learned the true lesson which would be that he says what he means the first time, even if he then has to rephrase it several times for the slower among us.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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GazzBut
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1858213 - 08/28/03 08:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gee thanks Luvvie!
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: GazzBut]
#1858227 - 08/28/03 09:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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GazzBut said:
Gee thanks Luvvie!
Think nothing of it Gazzie!
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Cornholio
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1858233 - 08/28/03 09:14 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innvertigo said:
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I think you meant warmonger not leader.
no i meant pacifier, learn to read.
Actually, he wasn't disputing the word "pacifier", but the word "leader". Learn to read!
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Re: IS BUSH THE WORST US PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME??? [Re: Cornholio]
#1858256 - 08/28/03 09:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hate polls like these because they are too lopsided. A good poll would include ALL the presidents and to be of value should only be taken by those familliar with all the presidents down to the size of their underwear.
Unfortunately neither the poll nor this forum meets those criteria.
If I had to pick our worst president out of my limited knowledge (read "my ass) I would agree with Luv.
Interestingly enough some of the same insults in the way of epithets used to characterize Lincoln are used to characterize our current president.
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