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 Problem with growing kit cultivation 
#18539939 - 07/10/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi everyone!
It's my first post here and i wish my first post was different.
I am searching for a few months about mushroom cultivation, and to start i bought my first kit. I know a lot of people don't like them, but as a first experience, i will give it an opportunity.
I cleaned all my house, and specially my cultivation area, and my kit arrived 2 days ago. I prepared evrything, but i was so focused in keep everything cleaned that i made a huge mistake yesterday. Instead of injecting the spores in the liquid culture vial i injected 1 ml of liquid culture vial in the spores. Then when i realized i made a huge mistake, i have done the opposite.
I want to know if i will have something in my liquid culture vial or if my mistake have destroyed evrything!
Forgive me for my bad english, but i don't speak too much and i am from another country!
Thank you
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18539973 - 07/10/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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not sure what that will do besides the spores may start to germinate.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18539974 - 07/10/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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to start i bought my first kit
I find it's best to do these sorts of things yourself. It's easy, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of threads on what it takes to make bulk kits. Do it yourself, you'll feel much more prideful when it comes time those little dicks show their faces.
Clarify for me, you injected your LC into your spores?
If your spores are in a syringe... how in the hell did you manage to do that? Lol, I'm bewildered.
What is your spore injection setup, and what is your LC setup. This should help everyone understand how you managed to inject the LC into your MS??
Edited by Midnight Cyclone (07/10/13 04:07 PM)
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Ramazz
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my kit have two different and separate small glass containers - 10 ml of liquid culture vial and 5 ml of spores. Two sterelyzed syringes.
I used one syringe and injected for mistake 1 ml of liquid culture vial in the spores container. And after i realized i made a huge mistake, i used the other sterelyzed syringe and injected the spores into the liquid culture vial container.
I don't know if i destryed both ( the spores and the liquid culture vial) or if at least, the culture vial will give me something!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18542527 - 07/11/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I first must compliment your english, it's very good for a second language.
It sounds like you just used all of your spores at once. And you will just end up with 2 vials (~15ml) of LC. I just hope you were clean about it, sounds like when you realized you messed up that you might have reacted without being properly sterile. Just a thought.
Patience is a virtue, my friend. Just now have to wait it out.
Good luck!
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Ramazz
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Thank you very much!
Definitely i have to be more patient. I will wait for a week to see if i will have something. If not, i will learn my lesson and start without kits.
As soon as i have news i will show them here!
Thank you very much, for the help !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18623169 - 07/28/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello again !
This is my firs cake. He is now in the fruiting chamber and i want to know if he looks good!?
He is in the fruiting chamber for 2 days.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18623231 - 07/28/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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It should not be sitting directly on the verm.
The verm in the pan is actually pretty useless.
A bag with no holes is hardly a fruiting chamber.
I suggest building a proper SGFC for best results.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Edited by PussyFart (07/28/13 10:16 AM)
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18623246 - 07/28/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pretty sure your supposed to inject all of the liquid into the spores and draw them back into the syringe to inoculate the spawn with
I don't think you messed it up at all 
If your flaming the needle to keep it sterile, you should have no contamination problems from how you made the syringe
Having 2 vials liquid & spores is a sweet ass way to get your cultures, wish the US vendors did that
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#18623455 - 07/28/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have finished my fruiting chamber for my other cakes. What do you think?
The humidity is still rising. I used perlite with enough water.
The other cake i showed in the picture is in the bag that come with the kit i ordered. But if you guys think is best, i can move the cake for the fruiting chamber i've finished.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18623478 - 07/28/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
I have finished my fruiting chamber for my other cakes. What do you think?
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Notahacker420 said:
I suggest building a proper SGFC for best results.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#18625534 - 07/28/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thank you very much.
The fruiting chamber i've finished have holes in all 6 sides, but we can't see them in the picture because of the image low quality. The terrarium i used is not a tube, but i think it work well.
I am a reptile keeper, and i keep snakes that need higher humidity, and i think this will not be a problem. I also don't use digital hygrometer, i use analog hygrometer, just post this in the picture for exemple.
Am i doing it right?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18625685 - 07/28/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Watched And read several teks and decided I'm starting a grow also, just ordered my stuff yesterday, also a kit lol fuckit right? It's first time.
I know the kit comes with a bag you can fruit in but I've been reading and guess I will get much better results with a fruiting chamber. I was considering using this http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/garden-care-watering/growing/Verve-52Cm-Un-Heated-Propagator-11907516. Would that be ok? And would it be better to put several holes in it to make it more similar to the sfc? I'm also going to dunk and roll this cake, hope for good results and take a spore print and try a tray with a 50/50 casing next time for a better yield.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: kharshroomer]
#18625694 - 07/28/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry for asking that in ur thread OP I just didn't want to start a full new thread for something someone more knowledgable could clear up with one post lol hope I didn't offend 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#18626450 - 07/28/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
The fruiting chamber i've finished have holes in all 6 sides, but we can't see them in the picture because of the image low quality.
So there are 1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern on all 6 sides?
And there is 4-5" of perlite?
And the chamber is raised so that air can pass up thru the bottom holes?
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SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Edited by PussyFart (07/28/13 11:07 PM)
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#18627287 - 07/29/13 05:23 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Take it I should have made a new thread, sorry lol
That answers my question anyway!! Drills coming out.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: kharshroomer]
#18633608 - 07/30/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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grow kits are a ripoff.....they overcharge you for the stuff you can buy at your local hardware and department stores, and then the kits work like shit because they do not follow the tek guidelines that have been perfected over the years....
dont order grow kits, they are a waste of time and more likely than not will get you in a bind since they are made for shit by greedy people (that dont care how much you yield, they only want your m.o. to clear.....).....
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: MySillyUmmm]
#18635204 - 07/30/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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First i have to thank you all for the replies, you helped me a lot!
I just wanted to try to grow my first mushrooms with my kit, but after all i have read and all your advices, i bought everything i needed and made a shotgun fruting chamber as i saw in the video that Notahacker420 told me to see . Tomorrow i will take some pictures and post here.
After i finished my SGFC i decided to move my cake. Everything was cleaned, the humidity was 95% and the SGFC was just like in the video. I put my sterelyzed gloves and moved the cake. But after 2 hours, there were like 2 spots with a strange gray/ soft green colour where i grabbed the cake. Now i don't know if it is normal, because my cake was perfect after i moved him and 1 hour or 2 seems to fast for a contamination on a cake!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18635225 - 07/30/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's blue bruising more than likely and is fine
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18648888 - 08/02/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is a picture of my cake. Do you think it is good?
The humidity is 95%, the temperaure is 25ºC and i give indirect sunlight for 12h a day.
Some little black/blue points start to appear. The cake is in the fruiting chamber for 8 days, in the new fruiting chamber with proper conditions, jus 2 days i think.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18648923 - 08/02/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry i forget to upload the picture!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18649694 - 08/02/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your cake looks dry
You should dunk it for 24 hours and roll it in verm
Is there a foil or some kind of barrier between your cake and the perlite?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18649970 - 08/02/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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There is no barrier between the perlite and the cake! Is there any problem with this? The humidity is always really high, why my cake is dry?
Thank you for your answear !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18650044 - 08/02/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
There is no barrier between the perlite and the cake! Is there any problem with this? The humidity is always really high, why my cake is dry?
Thank you for your answear !
Get a square piece of aluminum foil under that. You do NOT want your cake directly on the perlite. Go ahead and put your cake in a container of water for 24 hours, and then roll it in dry vermiculite. This will give you MUCH better mushrooms. Also, it should fix your dry cake problem.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18650136 - 08/02/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
There is no barrier between the perlite and the cake! Is there any problem with this? The humidity is always really high, why my cake is dry?
Thank you for your answear !
No barrier and your mycelium will colonize the perlite. Could be why your not pinning
How do you know your humidity is high?
There aren't any cheapo hygrometers out that are accurate, at best they are a rough guess and can be 10-20% off
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18650397 - 08/02/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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The cake is now underwater in the fridge. Should i do something more? After 24 hours i will put the cake in the fruiting chamber again with some barrier between the cake and the perlite!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18650522 - 08/02/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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After you take it from the water bath, rinse it off with tap water
Then roll it in dry vermiculite
Bake verm for 30 minutes at 350F first to sterilize and cool completely before rolling cake
Now that you have dunked and rolled your cake
Place it gently on a piece of foil
Wait 30 minutes and mist the verm very well to hydrate it
If you mist right away it just blows the verm off, waiting makes it to stick to the cake better
Mist the cakes a couple times a day when fanning
You'll see pins in no time
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18650689 - 08/02/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ramazz said:
The cake is now underwater in the fridge. Should i do something more? After 24 hours i will put the cake in the fruiting chamber again with some barrier between the cake and the perlite!
No need for the fridge (cold-shock) if you're growing cubes.
Good luck!!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Doc_D]
#18658810 - 08/04/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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After 24 hours i cleaned the cake with tap water and roll it in vermiculate as Skippydude told me to do.
My cake is now in the fruiting chamber with high humidity, and a aluminium foil between him and the perlite.
I am gonna wait now and hope to get something from my cake!
How long it should take to see any results? I am not impatient, just want to know the normal time to fruit, to see if the problem continues.
Thank you all again!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18658826 - 08/04/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mist the cake in an hour with a fine mist until it glistens and all the verm gets moist, then fan out the chamber.
Mist it again when the water you previously applied evaporates.
It can take a week or so sometimes to see pinning.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: PussyFart]
#18658889 - 08/04/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I saw some hyphae on that cake...
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Ramazz
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18667778 - 08/06/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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What is hyphae?
My shrooms start growing, i had 4 shrooms in the cake growing fast and a few other start growing !
Seems that the humidity was the problem!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18667952 - 08/06/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyphae refers to an individual thread of mycelium I believe <.<
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18668605 - 08/06/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
What is hyphae?
My shrooms start growing, i had 4 shrooms in the cake growing fast and a few other start growing !
Seems that the humidity was the problem!
Hyphal knotting... it's the beginning stage of pinning. Hyphal knots look like little balls of white mycelium...they almost look like the styrofoam bits that come out of a bean bag chair. Hyphal knotting is GOOD.. more knots = more pins
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18669027 - 08/06/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Since i had dunked and rolled my cake, everything is completely different! 4 Shrooms are growing really fast and a few minutes ago i went to check my cake and i had now a lot of little shrooms growing. I can´t say how many, but now i see a huge difference. Hope they grow well and healthy
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18669035 - 08/06/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
Since i had dunked and rolled my cake, everything is completely different! 4 Shrooms are growing really fast and a few minutes ago i went to check my cake and i had now a lot of little shrooms growing. I can´t say how many, but now i see a huge difference. Hope they grow well and healthy
Grats..sounds like you nailed it. Just make sure to keep it humid with lots of fresh air
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18669203 - 08/06/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ramazz said:
Since i had dunked and rolled my cake, everything is completely different! 4 Shrooms are growing really fast and a few minutes ago i went to check my cake and i had now a lot of little shrooms growing. I can´t say how many, but now i see a huge difference. Hope they grow well and healthy
I have been following this post since its inception. I am very very glad that the advice given to you, and followed by you has produced better results than what you would have gotten with the "kit". IMHO, the only thing in the kits of any value is the spores, but some may debate that.
Good luck in this and future grows!
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Thank you all i have collected a lot of mushrooms from my first cake he is now dunking again for 24 hours and i am drying the mushrooms. I have a second cake on my fruiting chamber with a lot of shrooms growing! in 24 hours i think i will collect all the mushrooms
I am so happy guys! As soon as i can i will post here all the pictures! i was not thinking i will get shrooms from my first cake! But you guys gave me a lot of good tips, and specially on my second cake the results look even better!
In my first cake i collect a lot of shrooms, and some of them were 20 grams fresh, not giants, but good for me beacuse i was not thinking i would get something on my first time growing !
And yes, i will never buy a kit again, i am really happy with my own stuff that you advice me to buy !
Attached i send a picture of my second cake and i will post pictures of my fruiting chamber and how i made and use the fruing chamber!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18692849 - 08/11/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ramazz
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Hello again!
I think i am having problems drying my mushrooms. But probably i just don't know how they look when they are dried. i dried my mushrooms indoor with sunlight, and now they are really small and look all blue.
Attached i post a picture of some of them!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18708385 - 08/15/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are 9/10 water weight...when you dry them, 10 grams becomes 1 grams....the blue bruising is perfectly normal. If you are not using desiccant or a dehydrator, you want to put them in front of a fan for 24-48 hours...letting them just sit and dry leaves them longer to oxidize and lose potency, also, if you leave them wet too long in still air...they will mold.
Edited by Nakor420 (08/15/13 09:46 AM)
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18708481 - 08/15/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ramazz said:
Hello again!
I think i am having problems drying my mushrooms. But probably i just don't know how they look when they are dried. i dried my mushrooms indoor with sunlight, and now they are really small and look all blue.
Attached i post a picture of some of them!
You should probably dry them in the shade
Blue is good
They do shrink like crazy, 1/10 of original weight
If you bend the stem and it snaps like a dry cracker, then they are ready for storage
If it bends at all it needs more time
I dry mine on a rack near a fan in a mostly dark room
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18708484 - 08/15/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Yeah, direct sunlight is bad even after harvest until they are cracker dry
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#18711103 - 08/15/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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They don't look like they were dried properly, or not quickly enough.
This is what dried mushrooms should look like:
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Most dry white
Some dry blue
As long as they aren't green your golden
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18716095 - 08/16/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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They started turning green 
I think i will dry them with a dehumidifier!
I have a house dehumidifier i use in my house on winter when i have high humidity. Can i use that dehumidifier or should i use food dehumidifier?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18716468 - 08/16/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dehydrator, not dehumidifier. No, your house dehumidifier won't do anything.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: midgaar]
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Dehydrator, not dehumidifier. No, your house dehumidifier won't do anything.
If you live where humidity is ridiculous a dehydrator is only going to warm the mushies and they still will not dry
A dehumidifier will definitely help
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18730908 - 08/20/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello again!
Today i was going to collect my second flush, but my mushrooms are with different colours. Some of them are more brown, some are more black, this is normal?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18730989 - 08/20/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's spores. It's normal if you don't pick them before the veil breaks.
It not bad for the shrooms, but it may taste a little funny.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18730996 - 08/20/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh, and beautiful flush you have there, man!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18731157 - 08/20/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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NICE FLUSH dude....you waited too long to pick them, that's why they have spores all over them...you need to pick them as soon as the veil breaks and before they sporelate...or even right before the veil breaks...once the veil breaks, no more psilocybin is produced...so you are just allowing worthless weight to form. Remember...for max potency and prettier shrooms...harvest just as the veils are breaking. But honestly....I would be siked to get a cake like that...
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18731174 - 08/20/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most dry white
Some dry blue
As long as they aren't green your golden
I just want to say that I fan dry mine for 24 hours, then put them in with desiccant for 24 hours...they come out cracker dry...but mine are always so blue that they are BLACK.. lol idk...it's always been that way for me....never had a shroom dry white.. 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18731579 - 08/20/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have decided to go sleep and to let them grow for a few more hours. But at the morning i was amazed with the size of the mushrooms!
If i wasn't thinking in get mushrooms from my cakes, definitely i was not expecting a flush like this! I don't know if it's normal, but that looks huge to me! I am drying them with a fan now, and i will post more pictures! so much mushrooms i can't believe!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18732611 - 08/20/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hope they look good. They are drying at the fan for a few hours. Tomorrow will buy desiccant and dry them for other 24 hours!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18732628 - 08/20/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tried any yet?!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: kharshroomer]
#18733067 - 08/20/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tried any yet?!
Can't wait to try some of them 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18733254 - 08/20/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Killer flush.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: elasticaltiger]
#18747687 - 08/23/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello !
I have my mushrooms for more than 30 hours in front of a fan, i think they are dry. They are really small, and i can broke them easy. But as i don't have any friend that have the same interest as me and i never see a crack dry mushroom, i post here a pick to know what do you think.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18749050 - 08/23/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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If they break easy and don't bend, they are dry enough to store
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18763922 - 08/27/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you ! They are cracker dry now ! They brake really easy.
The total weight of the flush is 17.9 grams dry.
I put them inside a zip bag and inside a small plastic container in a closet. Is it ok? Or should i put them in the fridge?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18763979 - 08/27/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Away from air and moisture. Dry and dark.
I keep mine in an airtight jar in my drawer. So you're good!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18764417 - 08/27/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you go to the grocery store you can find packs of silica gel that helps to keep food dry. If they have it you should pick some up. They're not too expensive.
Probably not strictly speaking necessary but it couldn't hurt?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18764438 - 08/27/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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For indefinite storage-
I dry mine using a dehydrator until they break when I try to bend them, put them in a ziplock or turkey bag (depending on how much quantity I have), suck all the air out of the bag and then set them in the freezer. As long as the bag is relatively air-tight you're golden.
I have had no issues, and no complaints from friends.
EDIT: When I remove them from the freezer they are just as when I set them in, stiff as a board. Try not to handle them too much.
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i've heard silica gel is not good for the mushrooms. It's true? Or should i put my shrooms in one bag, and put that bag in another bag with the silica gel inside without touching the shrooms?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18765078 - 08/27/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, put the desiccant in a coffee filter and tighten it with a rubber band.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18767671 - 08/28/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I use this
Works like a charm and is reusable indefinitely.. Only $7 on amazon
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
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I use this
Works like a charm and is reusable indefinitely.. Only $7 on amazon
Nakor420, Is there a brand name on that? I tried zooming in on the metal but it just looks like it says 'silica gel'
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: elasticaltiger]
#18769399 - 08/28/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you everyone! You really helped me a lot 
My third flush is growing. It seems that i will have more mushrooms, but i don't know if they will have much psilocybin. The amount of blue in the first and second flush were much bigger!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18769805 - 08/28/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is a 100% photo-perfect grow. I wish EVERYONE could have something like this at least once. 5 Stars for you!
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Quote:
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This is a 100% photo-perfect grow. I wish EVERYONE could have something like this at least once. 5 Stars for you!
Oh man !! Thank you very much ! I am really proud of that flush and all i have learned in the last months.
Thanks to all the advices you all gave me, and all the infoormation on that forum, i have grown something 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: elasticaltiger]
#18770034 - 08/28/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nakor420, Is there a brand name on that? I tried zooming in on the metal but it just looks like it says 'silica gel'
No, I just looked for desiccant/silica gel on amazon one day, in the scietific industrial section I THINK and sorted it priced lowest to highest and it was there...
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18773887 - 08/29/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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The third flush started pining !
Not too much mushrooms, but they are looking good !
Sorry for the bad image quality.
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You can hardly ask for more.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18773961 - 08/29/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can hardly ask for more.
I can't ask for more ! This cake was 5 stars for me
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#18773977 - 08/29/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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It performed pretty well, that flush looked amazing.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18778231 - 08/30/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another picture of my third flush. They started growing really fast !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18778357 - 08/30/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good thing, too.
Those cakes are all kinds of funny colors.
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Here is another picture of my third flush.
The mushrooms are looking good, i think!
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Here is another picture of my third flush.
The mushrooms are looking good, i think!
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Maybe a little more FAE, otherwise those white feet will grow up the stem.
Other than that
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Maybe a little more FAE, otherwise those white feet will grow up the stem.
Other than that
Could you please tell me what is the white? In my second flush i had some of that white stuff in almost all of my mushroom feet.
Thank you for the help!
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It's just mycelium, still growing because of low FAE
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Maybe a little more FAE, otherwise those white feet will grow up the stem.
Other than that
Could you please tell me what is the white? In my second flush i had some of that white stuff in almost all of my mushroom feet.
Thank you for the help!
It is a very small amount of aerial myc
Don't try to fix it because it ain't broke
This means your humidity is a bit high, I wouldn't sweat it, high humidity is way better than low humidity
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18783270 - 08/31/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lack of FAE causes stretched skinny stems and increases the risk of trich and other contamination
I don't see a lack of FAE in your grow
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
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Quote:
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Quote:
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Maybe a little more FAE, otherwise those white feet will grow up the stem.
Other than that
Could you please tell me what is the white? In my second flush i had some of that white stuff in almost all of my mushroom feet.
Thank you for the help!
It is a very small amount of aerial myc
Don't try to fix it because it ain't broke
This means your humidity is a bit high, I wouldn't sweat it, high humidity is way better than low humidity
Is there any problem if i eat that myc? Because i don't remember if i remove that myc when i died my second flush. Sorry for all the questions!
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No, there's no problem what so ever. Eat away!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
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Another picture of my third flush today !
A few more hours and i will collect all the mushrooms!
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I have to say...for a single cake on a third flush....that is absolutely beautiful man.... bravo! 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
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I have to say...for a single cake on a third flush....that is absolutely beautiful man.... bravo!
Thank you very much man !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18785977 - 09/01/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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The last pictures of my third flush. 96 grams.
Waited too long again to pick them, and when i looked, they already have droped spores.
They are drying now, and i am happy with the look and size of mushrooms!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18788381 - 09/02/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I tried to make a print of one of my mushrooms, what do you think?
I also want to know if i can dry and eat the mushroom i have used to make the print.
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The print looks awesome and you can eat the cap you used, as long as it is not rotten or moldy after printing.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
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After the print is dried, to make a syringe, i should remove some spores into a glass of sterile water and then into the syringe, right?
I have to read more about that.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18788630 - 09/02/13 07:54 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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When making prints for syringes, you should use aluminum foil to print on. Paper will be a little more difficult to recover the spores from.
SYRINGE MAKING TEK:
To sterilize, wrap a shot glass in foil and PC it. DO NOT wipe this shot glass with alcohol or it will not be sterile any longer You can sterilize a vessel of distilled water in the PC with the shot glass
In a still air box or laminar flow, using a flame sterilized scalpel or inoculation loop, scrape the spores into the shot glass.
Add a syringe full of distilled water to the glass.
Stir with flame sterilized scalpel, loop or needle.
Draw up solution into syringe and it's ready for use
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18788735 - 09/02/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can make your print in the bottom of a sterile glass or small jar, then shoot your water into the glass and stir it up, then suck it into the syringe...
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
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Is there any special paper that i can buy to print my mushrooms and store them?
Thank you for all the answers!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18788829 - 09/02/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Aluminum foil!
And fold it neatly together and put it in a zip bag.
 
    
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
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Aluminum foil!
And fold it neatly together and put it in a zip bag.
How andymc makes prints
Thank you very much man !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
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Ramazz said:
After the print is dried, to make a syringe, i should remove some spores into a glass of sterile water and then into the syringe, right?
I have to read more about that.
Yes.
A print like you have could easily make four or more 10-12ml syringes.
I Just did my first few prints successfully the other week. I pressure cooked q-tip ear cleaners in a jar, and then used them to wipe the print. I then put the q-tip into a sterile shot glass with sterile water, and used a brand new syringe to suck in and out the water to agitate the q-tip. Its working great, and seems to be clean. The only fear I had of contamination came from the print itself. Everything I did was sterilized and all work was done in a still air box.
Either way, your grow is what I would say a huge success for someone new to the hobby. I can imagine that you will be working agar before too long.
Looks great!
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Ramazz said:
After the print is dried, to make a syringe, i should remove some spores into a glass of sterile water and then into the syringe, right?
I have to read more about that.
Yes.
A print like you have could easily make four or more 10-12ml syringes.
I Just did my first few prints successfully the other week. I pressure cooked q-tip ear cleaners in a jar, and then used them to wipe the print. I then put the q-tip into a sterile shot glass with sterile water, and used a brand new syringe to suck in and out the water to agitate the q-tip. Its working great, and seems to be clean. The only fear I had of contamination came from the print itself. Everything I did was sterilized and all work was done in a still air box.
Either way, your grow is what I would say a huge success for someone new to the hobby. I can imagine that you will be working agar before too long.
Looks great!
Than you for your tips !
I will see what is the best for me to do, and read a bit more about making spore syringes to be more comfortable when i start doing them!
I am really enjoying growing shrooms, i love to see them growing and enjoy all the process !Agar is still a bit confuse to me, but i have not read too much about that, but i will start reading!
Meanwhile, i am thinking in buying two more syringes of two diferent strains because i think i want to try growing diferent mushrooms. I know a cube is a cube, but i think i want to try diferent strains to see how they grow and the diferences. Do you have any suggestion on cool strains to grow?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18790522 - 09/02/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you have any suggestion on cool strains to grow?
All of the "varieties" are cool. The best bet is to simply pick based on the name. If you think something sounds cool, get it. The amount of random possibilities really make the argument that "X variety is better than Y" irrelevant. There is discussion that there are differences from one "variety" to another, but The best ones are the ones that grow big and strong....Any cube can succeed at being awesome.
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Ramazz said:
Do you have any suggestion on cool strains to grow?
All of the "varieties" are cool. The best bet is to simply pick based on the name. If you think something sounds cool, get it. The amount of random possibilities really make the argument that "X variety is better than Y" irrelevant. There is discussion that there are differences from one "variety" to another, but The best ones are the ones that grow big and strong....Any cube can succeed at being awesome.
Thank you very much for your help Whippy.
I know a cube is a cube, but i have seen some strains like pf red spores i think, and albinos, that look a bit diferent. I think i will order a PF red spores, some srain with albinos and the koh samui strain because i love Thailand.
I will made some cakes with PF Tek and if everything goes ok, i will made some prins of tha strains. I will also test the print i have already made. After that, maybe i will start thinking in agar.
Meanwhile, my cake is again in the fruiting chamber, just to see if i get another flush!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18802793 - 09/05/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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"A cube is a cube" sure like a Mastiff and Chihuahua are both dogs.
I don't care what you heard, cube strains do have different growth patterns(Size, color & shape) and they all have different potency. So to say a cube is a cube is just silly IMO. Sure all cubes are of the same strain, but there is absolutely "Variety" amongst the strain.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18802800 - 09/05/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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In that case wouldn't it be like saying a brown mastiff and black mastiff are both dogs? I mean, they may not have the same size or pattern, but are they not both mastiffs?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18803047 - 09/05/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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You get very similar highs from brown & black Mastiffs. But watch out eating Chihuahua, small fruits but very potent!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18803066 - 09/05/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe, but there will still be various factors that makes them different from each other. Like what food, training, parents, exercise etc. they would be receiving over their lifetime. A cube is a cube like a mastiff is a mastiff.
If you want to compared to other dogs, then the chihuahua would be paneleous cyanescens. And yes, they are very potent.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18803124 - 09/05/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another thread jacked over strain difference(Or lack of)
We better quit before the Rabbit jumps in and chops some bodies(mine) head off 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18803129 - 09/05/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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"A cube is a cube" sure like a Mastiff and Chihuahua are both dogs.
This is exactly how it is
But for the average first or third time cultivator, "a cube is a cube" is an accurate description with no further explanation needed...esp when buying spores, which is where I find myself telling people that a lot.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18803407 - 09/05/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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"A cube is a cube" sure like a Mastiff and Chihuahua are both dogs.
This is exactly how it is
But for the average first or third time cultivator, "a cube is a cube" is an accurate description with no further explanation needed...esp when buying spores, which is where I find myself telling people that a lot.
I am new in mushroom growing, and i only read about different strains.
Obviously a cube is a cube for me simply because the specie is the same. But in the same species we can see diferences ( Not talking about growing faster and potency), the mushrooms look diferent in some strains, more fat, more thin, some have albinos, but as i am new i can be wrong.
All i have asked, is that i am going to buy some spores, and if really matter buying different strains ( because some of them could look more cool in the end), or if it really doesn't matter.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18803412 - 09/05/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I buy whatever strains sound cool or look cool...just know that they may not look like the pictures that vendors display. Fruiting conditions play a big part in how the mushies present themselves.
Penis envy is potent and weird looking but doesn't perform well on BRF cakes.
Leucistic strains (marketed as "albino" strains though they technically are not) are beautiful.
I liked treasure coast when I was starting out.
Do you know how to use a print?
I have many varities I printed myself and I can certainly spare some.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18803464 - 09/05/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I buy whatever strains sound cool or look cool...just know that they may not look like the pictures that vendors display. Fruiting conditions play a big part in how the mushies present themselves.
Penis envy is potent and weird looking but doesn't perform well on BRF cakes.
Leucistic strains (marketed as "albino" strains though they technically are not) are beautiful.
I liked treasure coast when I was starting out.
Do you know how to use a print?
I have many varities I printed myself and I can certainly spare some.
I am reading for a few days how to use a print, and i think i have all the information i need to do syringes. In fact, i will try to do my first syringe tomorrow with the spore print i made from my last flush.
I would love to have an Leucistic strain ( i love leucistic snakes too, i have 1 ) !
The other strains i am looking for are PF red spores because they seem to be different ( fat mushrooms, and i think the spore prints are red?), and Thai or Koh Samui.
But here in Europe, it's really hard to find leucistic strains or some strains that i see here on the forum and seem to be avaiable easily in America.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18803481 - 09/05/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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It is impossible to find PE in Europe. It's actually quite amazing.
But aren't they also nearly impossible to take a print of?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18803501 - 09/05/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a wide variety of "classic" cubes to spare.
I try to only distribute my prints I've taken, I don't trust that prints I get from others will be as clean, fresh, or viable as my own. I don't want to pass off a sub-par print that will give someone trouble
Not that I have found many prints I would consider sub-par in any way but it is just for "Quality assurance" I guess.
If you want to discuss my prints I can send you please send me a PM
That is very interesting about PE in europe.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18803891 - 09/05/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you for your help
I have searched a lot, and some strains are almost impossible to find in Europe.
I have sent you a PM
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18806839 - 09/06/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Today i have made my first 3 syringes with my print. But i find this a little difficult because the spores started to get attached in the side of the glass i used . I look at the syringes, and i can't see spores. It is normal?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18806880 - 09/06/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I use distilled water my spores clump
Spring water and no clumping
Spores are microscopic in size and it takes 1000s grouped together to see them with he naked eye. I have had what appeared to be clear syringes produce major mycelium. 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18806889 - 09/06/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Use a drop of sex lube in the water.
Advice from our favorite old hand, RR.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18806941 - 09/06/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Use a drop of sex lube in the water.
Advice from our favorite old hand, RR.
What the hurl is sex lube???
I got the video and that has been driving me nutz.
Is it Vasoline? or some kind of strawberry flavored shit from the nasty store? 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18806945 - 09/06/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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K-Y jelly get it at the pharmacy
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18806954 - 09/06/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Use a drop of sex lube in the water.
Advice from our favorite old hand, RR.
a drop of jet dry works wonders too if you are hesitant to go searching for sex lube
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: JohnnieYen]
#18808060 - 09/06/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Use a drop of sex lube in the water.
Advice from our favorite old hand, RR.
a drop of jet dry works wonders too if you are hesitant to go searching for sex lube
From the jetdry website (http://www.jetdry.com/faqs.shtml): JET-DRY® products are a special combination of nonionic surfactants, a chelating agent, dye, and fragrance* (*for our fragranced products). On a more detailed note, they are kosher and don't contain phosphate...
Why would you do that to you poor spores? K-Y Jelly is a water-based, water-soluble lubricant.... I'll go with the K-Y
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18808129 - 09/06/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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don't knock it til you've tried it. It works great
i use 1 drop added to 200mL distilled water and never had a problem in my last hundred jars.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: JohnnieYen]
#18809299 - 09/06/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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If i put a drop of jet dry in the distilled water, the spores will not be attached in the glass?
I have searched for the product, but i don't know if i have found the right one: @Finish @Jet-dry @Turbo-dry, is that one?
The only problem is that i don't know if i can find it in Europe, but i will take a look!
I think i was born to live in USA 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18809455 - 09/06/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Use spring water with no additives one time and see what you think.
I get no clumping, no contamination and no weird shit to eat in my organic mushrooms.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18818367 - 09/09/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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i use jet dry. Spores do not clump or attach to glass/plastic. 1 drop per cup of distilled water.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: JohnnieYen]
#18818669 - 09/09/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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My fourth flush, one fat shroom growing 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
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My fourth flush, one fat shroom growing
Crazy how long this cake is going. Nice grow, Ramazz.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: d9c6]
#18820255 - 09/09/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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How do i know my cake will have no more mushrooms? As a first time grower i am going with him until he gave me nothing more. Is it the correct procedure?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18820761 - 09/09/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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How do i know my cake will have no more mushrooms? As a first time grower i am going with him until he gave me nothing more. Is it the correct procedure?
Either it will just not produce anymore or it will contaminate.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: JohnnieYen]
#18821048 - 09/09/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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JohnnieYen said:
Quote:
FrankHorrigan said:
Use a drop of sex lube in the water.
Advice from our favorite old hand, RR.
a drop of jet dry works wonders too if you are hesitant to go searching for sex lube
Why would you be hesitant to search for Sex Lube? Go to a pharmacy grab it and go to the counter and be all like.....
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Sockadin]
#18821139 - 09/09/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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a drop of jet dry works wonders too if you are hesitant to go searching for sex lube
Why would you be hesitant to search for Sex Lube?
Come on, next you expect them to buy condoms, don't you? ..the shame!
Seriously though, guys; man the hell up. Any clerk of any store has seen worse freaks than you and won't give two shites about some possible stoner buying sex lube.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Kjetterfaen]
#18822864 - 09/10/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the answears!
Another pic of a big dick on my cake
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18826972 - 09/11/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok, so i think this is the last mushroom from my first cake. One big mushroom. Bigger than all the others.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18826980 - 09/11/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok, so i think this is the last mushroom from my first cake. One big mushroom. Bigger than all the others.
Id still try to soak it one last time, and see what happens. Worst case, more of nothing. No matter what happens, you took a less than perfect situation and made it perfect! Kudos to you.
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I like it....
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18827459 - 09/11/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here is the picture with the weight of my fourth flush
Definitely the biggest mushroom of all flushes ! The cake is now dunking again. I think i will not have more mushrooms from that cake but i can't be more happy with the results !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18828391 - 09/11/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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It will continue to flush until it either contams or runs out of nutrients. I bet you get a couple more before it's finito! 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18828678 - 09/11/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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All flushes i think that no more shrooms will grow and everytime i get surprised. The first flush was good but i have not dried the mushrroms correctly. The second flush was amazing and this time i correctly dried all mushrooms. The third flush was good, less mushrooms but they were more fat. And now i have a huge mushroom in the fourth flush (Huge for me, i saw really giants in other forum member pictures)
The cake is now in the water again I just have one question, should i put more verm in the cake after i take him from the water? Or i just put him in the FC again? Because the cake just have now a little bit of verm.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18830189 - 09/11/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always roll in verm after a dunk. It helps the surface of the cake hold moisture, which helps the cake make pins. Cakes with dry surfaces rarely make pins.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18848723 - 09/16/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is the third day of my cake in the FC. Was dunking for 24h hours and then i rolled the cake in verm and put him in the FC again. Until now there is no sign of pining!
I have inoculated two jars with the syringes i have made with my spore print, but i think they are not looking good.
One of the jars have a yellow point in the mycelium !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18849091 - 09/16/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18850094 - 09/16/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bought this two plastic jars with filter on top. They can be used on pressure cooker. I made my two syringes and made the two jars with Verm, rice flower and water. I put the two jars on pressure cooker and have no problems. But i think at some point i probably was not completely steryle. I think i might have used too much water, and the jars are big, maybe the smaller ones are better.
The mycelium look fluffy...in my other cake the mycelium in the begginig was like this, but then turned stronger. But in my first cake i have used a bag, because in the beggining i was using the stuff that came with my kit!
Should i throw them to the garbage?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18852414 - 09/17/13 05:22 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are those brf cakes? I mean...they are HUGE....if you are doing cakes you should be using half pint jars like these...
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18852595 - 09/17/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, they are BRF cakes...and they are really huge. The jars are 1000 ml.
Maybe that was the problem... i don't see a contamination, the mycelium just look more fluffy than in my other cakes.
What do you think? Should i wait to see what will happen?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18852602 - 09/17/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would give them more time......Hopefully you didn't pack those too tight or they will likely not fully colonize... remember...half pints...even if you have to use drinking glasses to make your cakes...
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18853683 - 09/17/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have actually tried big brf cakes, and failed miserably. I did one quart ziplock jars. It took forever, and eventually stopped. Short and fat keeps the bottom layer from being compacted.
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Ok...i was thinking that they were too big but now i am sure they are really big. I will wait to see if i will get something from this two jars. But i think i messed up this time, there is a lot more myc today, but is much slower than my other cake and the myc just look more fluffy.
Meanwhile, i think iam going to order a pack of 12 jars from amazon. I was thinking in buying Kerr 0518 wide mouth mason jar pint, 16oz(case of 12). Do you think the jars are good and not too big?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18856946 - 09/18/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Too big...you need half pint wide mouth jars... If you can't find them you can use drinking glasses...you fill them as per pf tek, then you put a piece of foil over it and strap that on with a good sturdy rubberband, then put another piece over the top of that...when you inoculate, remove the outer layer of foil, inject right through the lower layer, then replace the top layer and viola...
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18857062 - 09/18/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've done lots of big cakes successfully, but you have to lose the BRF and use coco coir.
This is a 1 1/2 quart food storage container with a 3/4" hole in the lid covered with micro-pore tape for GE
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18861898 - 09/19/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you all for the advices. I will do an experiment with my last syringe and will try smaller jars.
Meanwhile my jars are like this ate the time:
 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18862189 - 09/19/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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The mycelium is ripping through that BFR. Those look really good so far
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18864462 - 09/19/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
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The mycelium is ripping through that BFR. Those look really good so far
The myc is growing well i think but some points have some yellow colour in the sides of the jar. But i read here in the forum that this could be the water...but i don't know. So far, there is no strange smell or green or other colours.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18864481 - 09/19/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think my cake isn't dead yet Today 3 or 4 mushrooms started growing! Tomorrow i post here more pics, one of them is growing fat like the last flush, and can be another big one !
This cake as seven lives!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18866241 - 09/20/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's impressive, man! Good for you!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18866489 - 09/20/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is an update of my fifth flush ! 5 or 6 mushrooms growing but i think in the pic we only can see the big one
The myc continue growing in my jars! In some parts there is some yellow like i said, but i think it's water and there is no smell or green, so i will give them more time and see what happen
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18872211 - 09/21/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another update of my fifth flush !
7 or 8 mushrooms growing now the pic don't have a good quality so it's hard to see them all!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18874857 - 09/22/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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As long as it's a yellow color and doesn't darken into an orange that should be fine.
I would guess that discoloring is metabolites.
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As long as it's a yellow color and doesn't darken into an orange that should be fine.
I would guess that discoloring is metabolites.
Tomorrow i will post some pics of my jars, in order to know your opinion ! I think they are 60% colonized.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18879212 - 09/23/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another update of my fifth flush! Two fat mushrooms continue growing !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18879300 - 09/23/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's the best preforming cake I've ever seen I think.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18879515 - 09/23/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18880620 - 09/23/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you very much !
They are staring to break the veils, so i will start colecting them and then drying!
I will dunk the cake again, just to see how long it goes, but i'm not waiting for more mushrooms i can't ask for more
I think that flush will have 40 gr fresh!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18884852 - 09/24/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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The flush was 29 grams fresh! They mushrooms are drying for 24 hours, and the weight now is 2.7 grams. I think they are dry, but will keep them drying for more 24 hours!
My cake is now dunking again, tomorrow morning, after more than 35 hours dunking, i will put him in the FC again!
My two jars are with mold 
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18886151 - 09/24/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should only dunk 12-24 hours. Mycelium can drown if submerged too long. Congrats on the kick ass cake
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18887017 - 09/24/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
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You should only dunk 12-24 hours. Mycelium can drown if submerged too long. Congrats on the kick ass cake
Thank you for your advice! In a few hours i will move my cake for the FC!
I just have this amazing result because of all of you that helped me a lot.
I will keep posting on this topic until my cake stop giving me mushrooms, and as soon as i can, i will open another topic with my new project with some jars and more
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18922128 - 10/02/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think my cake is dead now ! After two weeks in the FC, no more mushrooms grew. I think it is time to let him go
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18922256 - 10/02/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It fought hard and brave. May its soul rest in the dried mushrooms.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Pestile]
#18937823 - 10/05/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am posting here just to say that my cake is not dead yet
Today I was going to say goodbye to him and noticed that were 7 or 8 mushrooms growing ! I think he is playing with me
I am also posting here the result of one of my big cakes. I was thinking that the 2 cakes were contaminated, but one of them had no orange, so i put him in a new FC, and i had a huge flush !
I was not going to post here anything because i was thinking in opening another topic to post the results of my new experiments, but i had to post here this pic, this was really the best result i had so far!
That was my first flush with 430 grams i think I collected them today and i think the cake was 10 or 9 days in the FC! As soon as i can i will open another topic with new stuff i am doing!
The myc in the cake is a little damaged now because the amount of mushrooms was so big that i could not collect them all correctly.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18937862 - 10/05/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, that's a lot of mushrooms! Good job once again, man!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: d9c6]
#18937910 - 10/05/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Wow, that's a lot of mushrooms! Good job once again, man!
Thank you very much !
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18958094 - 10/10/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is a pic of my sixth flush! 38 grams !
Picked the mushrooms too late again.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18958107 - 10/10/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ramazz.... I think we should change the name of the PF Tek to the Ramazz Tek....WTF man! lol....great job.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18960137 - 10/10/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ramazz.... I think we should change the name of the PF Tek to the Ramazz Tek....WTF man! lol....great job.
lol
The cake is dunking again and the mushrooms drying!
Let's see if this brave cake will give a seventh flush!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18962600 - 10/11/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am posting here one doubt i have.
One of my new experiments are cakes of A+ Albinos, and everything was going well, the mushrooms started pinning, but 3 days ago i think, they stop growing or they are growing so slow that i can't really see any development.
Is that possible? Is something i can do or the whole flush aborted?
I think this is almost impossible because i did not change anything in the FC, and here the temperaures just dropped from 26ºC to 22ºC.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18962828 - 10/11/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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A pic would help... They are not aborted if the caps are still a healthy color..aborts will develop a black cap or even a grayish fuzzy kinda cap. Based on what you are describing it sounds like one of your fruiting parameters
has moved out of the optimal zone. possibly getting cold or starting to lack high enough RH? A lot of things can stall a grow...you need to make some adjustments to find out what that is. Try turning up the heat a few degrees...and give the walls and perlite a good misting. See how it looks tomorrow after that.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18962939 - 10/11/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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They grow slow and dense in cooler temps.
22 isn't too cool, but for me 24 has been optimal.
At 26 mushrooms grow well, but contamination thrives better at this temp too.
If they're not discolored, probably not aborts.
If your not showing signs of a lack of humidity, I wouldn't increase misting as you've been OK on that and too much of a good thing is usually a bad thing. Over misting can cause aborts, plus add contamination risks.
Did you rehydrate your perlite between projects?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18963156 - 10/11/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most of the caps are still healthy colors.
I allways mist a lot, maybe i could have misted too much. But with A+ albinos the colonization was really slow, and they started pinning too slow, but now i think they have stopped completely.
Here is a pic of some of them, the quality is really bad but that is all i have at the moment!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18963202 - 10/11/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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AA+ grows slow for me too
Those look healthy, I think all that you need is a little patience and just keep up the good work
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#18963889 - 10/11/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dense pin sets like that can be an indicator of bacterial contamination.....If this problem persists with that particular grow....bury it outside and let nature fix it.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Nakor420]
#18985966 - 10/16/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you all for the advices!
After that days, the A+ mushrooms are not growing. The color is turning to a soft blue... should i remove all the aborts ( I think the whole flush aborted), dunk the cake and put him in the FC again to see if the problem persists?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18986014 - 10/16/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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After you remove the aborts, then dunk, you should roll in verm. Cakes not rolled rarely do well.
Are the pins dark & nasty looking? Are you sure they aborted? Can we get a pic?
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
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After you remove the aborts, then dunk, you should roll in verm. Cakes not rolled rarely do well.
Are the pins dark & nasty looking? Are you sure they aborted? Can we get a pic?
I don't have camera or mobile phone with me now, tomorrow morning i post pics here!
The myc is looking good, and the mushrooms are white but with some blue caps!
I just think they aborted because all my flushes until now, grow in 7 days or 10 days after i put the cake in the FC, but the AA+ is so slow that i can't really see an evolution on the mushrooms!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#18986962 - 10/16/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lot's of the AA+ caps I grew had a big blue spot in the center. They weren't aborts
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
#19014283 - 10/22/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello again!
I'm posting here just to say that my brave cake is giving me the seventh flush
The pic is poor quality but i just have my old phone with me !
More than 10 pins again...this cake just don't stop
My mushrooms in my AA+ cultivation started looking really bad, so i removed all of them and dunked the cake for 24 hours. He is now in the FC and i will see if the problem persists.
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
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Narly!
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: skippydude]
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19030999 - 10/25/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here are some pics of my seventh flush ! The mushrooms are tiny and small, and the colour is more soft, i don't know if it is normal.
The picture of the cake don't have all the mushrooms, i have already picked four
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: Ramazz]
#19031288 - 10/25/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The small size indicates that the nutrients in the cake are about spent
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Go for 8.
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Ramazz
Ramazz
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Re: Problem with growing kit cultivation [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19068809 - 11/01/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just to say that i think i am seeing more pins in my cake
I think the 8th flush is coming!
I will post more pics later, and some pics of other experiments
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