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JoieDeVivre
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: circularvortex]
#18517292 - 07/05/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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circularvortex said: So far my empirical observations (which are different from an empirical law) are more substantial than any data you've provided. You've got a really bad habit of claiming statistical significance while providing no data whatsoever.
You haven't provided any data either. Personal experiences are not empirical, they are not verifiable, they are subject to your personal interpretation and they are not up for peer review.
America ranks 21st in science performance and the extent of education most kids get about nutrition is one boring chapter in a health textbook that discusses "portion sizes." There's virtually no standard nutritional science education in the US, which is what is necessary to get a thorough understanding of what happens when you put certain foods in your body and why it's important to eat well.
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Konyap

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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#18517715 - 07/05/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mostly just drugs and body parts after 3rd grade.
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unam sanctum


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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: Powdered_Toastman]
#18517728 - 07/05/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Powdered_Toastman said: My sister is someone who has an eating disorder that she really struggles with. just like opiate dependency, some people have legitimate eating disorders.

sorry, try again.
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: InfiniteToker] 1
#18518364 - 07/05/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said:
There's this wonderful thing called "the Internet". There's no excuse for ANYBODY to be ignorant about ANYTHING in this day and age.
come on dude, not everyone has the internet.
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SHROOMHUNTSMAN said: It depends on store prices etc. A bag of chips at a store i go to is 2.00 for a normal size bag and a bag of apples is 4.oo or 5.oo. Some in an effort to save money will just buy a bag of chips. Store prices will differ and a person's knowledge will differ. also time is a factor too. In an effort to save "time" people will go to McDonalds.
i'm talking a bag of chips v. 2-3 apples, not a bag of apples. but i think i see the point you're making.
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: unam sanctum] 1
#18518625 - 07/05/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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unam sanctum said:
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Powdered_Toastman said: My sister is someone who has an eating disorder that she really struggles with. just like opiate dependency, some people have legitimate eating disorders.

sorry, try again.
Low baseline serotonin levels with a nucleus accumbens hypersensitive to dopamine is the neurological chemical basis for any addictive disorders. Sometimes the brain can maladapt during high levels of stress, causing the serotonin levels to permanently be lowered by to much release of gluccocorticoids. Food can release high levels of dopamine just like drugs can. If you have a nucleus accumbens hypersensitive to dopamine, you will crave whatever it is that fits the key.
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TheMadHighentist
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: Powdered_Toastman]
#18518871 - 07/06/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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To those claiming that we can't blame those with poor education:
Let's assume a person who has poor knowledge regarding nutrition. Let's say this person eats fast food everyday because it's cheap, easy, and he/she doesn't know any better. After a few years, this person starts to get overweight, and eventually becomes obese. This person wonders "Hmm, I wonder why I'm so fat?".
"What have I been eating lately? Fast food."
"It must be that."
Now let's imagine the friend of this person. He/she observes that this person eats fast food everyday and is now obese. This friend wonders, "Hmm, I wonder why my friend is so fat?"
"What does he/she eat? Fast food."
"It must be that."
Even with shitty education, it is not very hard to figure out that fast food is unhealthy
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tealeaf
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: TheMadHighentist]
#18519101 - 07/06/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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i know that female mosquitos suck blood to give nutrients to their babies but imagine if they were strictly pollinators! they would still serve the same purpose as food for other critters and would eliminate malaria, now thats the gene research these scientists need to be doing
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tealeaf
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: tealeaf]
#18519164 - 07/06/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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fast food cure for obesity is like saying pop music is the cure for culture.........honestly those pop musicans have sooo much fame, i just they would use their image to portray positive morals and vibes that the world needs now
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: claraclairvoyant] 2
#18519616 - 07/06/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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claraclairvoyant said:
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pwnasaurus said:
There's this wonderful thing called "the Internet". There's no excuse for ANYBODY to be ignorant about ANYTHING in this day and age.
come on dude, not everyone has the internet.
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SHROOMHUNTSMAN said: It depends on store prices etc. A bag of chips at a store i go to is 2.00 for a normal size bag and a bag of apples is 4.oo or 5.oo. Some in an effort to save money will just buy a bag of chips. Store prices will differ and a person's knowledge will differ. also time is a factor too. In an effort to save "time" people will go to McDonalds.
i'm talking a bag of chips v. 2-3 apples, not a bag of apples. but i think i see the point you're making.
Ok, so in 2010 69.2% of the population over 20 in the United States was overweight (including obesity)1. In 2012 78.3% of Americans had access to the internet.2 Even if all of the people who don't have internet access were overweight that leaves 9.1% of the population overweight without internet access...so 13.2ish% of the overweight population doesn't have internet access with the most conservative assumptions possible.
I couldn't find any pure data in 3 minutes of looking on the availability of internet at public libraries, but 92% of libraries offer access to job databases3, so we must assume that at least as many have an internet connection.
The rational conclusion you can draw from all this is that basically everybody has internet access. Even if you don't have internet access there is a huge variety of books written on the subject of nutrition available for purchase or free check out from public libraries. In this glorious information age we live in it is so easy to become educated on almost any subject. Any physician will provide you with nutrition advice. Tons of TV shows talk about nutrition all the time.
I agree that schools should definitely teach more about nutrition, as we very clearly have a problem in this country that comes solely from people having bad habits.
Please, people, stop making excuses for bad behavior! People with bad eating habits need encouragement and information, not more excuses. They have plenty of those.
1 - http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm 2 - http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats14.htm 3 - http://www.ala.org/tools/libfactsheets/alalibraryfactsheet26
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Konyap

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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: circularvortex]
#18520371 - 07/06/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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nvm
Edited by Konyap (07/06/13 01:13 PM)
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Konyap

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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: Konyap]
#18520383 - 07/06/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm supposed to weigh between 160 and 215
I weigh 135
uh oh!
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psi
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: Konyap]
#18520395 - 07/06/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just start off every day with a tall glass of high fructose corn syrup, you should be a "healthy" weight in no time.
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YSHServant
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Re: Could fast food really be the cure for obesity? [Re: psi]
#18520495 - 07/06/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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psi said: Just start off every day with a tall glass of high fructose corn syrup, you should be a "healthy" weight in no time.
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