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KingCloyster
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Is there any way to modify the tek for an AA 50x sterilizer or do I need a stock pot?
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twistedty
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KingCloyster said: Is there any way to modify the tek for an AA 50x sterilizer or do I need a stock pot?
pressure cookers are recommended becuase they are insulated and hold heat well
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Vire
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: twistedty]
#18496205 - 07/01/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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KingCloyster said: Is there any way to modify the tek for an AA 50x sterilizer or do I need a stock pot?
pressure cookers are recommended becuase they are insulated and hold heat well 
If ya wanna hold the heat well, do what I do. Do all your pasteurization in a big camping cooler. I use a temp control device, a bucket heater & an aquarium water-fan (for circulation of all that water).
Two biggest benefits to this method: 1). You can pasteurize a lot of sub all at the same time. 2). This method gets the water right where you want it and holds it there. Bucket heater + a temp control device = no worries of ever accidentally sterilizing.
There is a tek on this somewhere on the forums....And it does have its downsides. Size is an issue. I do all my pasteurization outside on my deck so I have room to work. It's also the best place for me to drain all that hot water once I'm done.
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twistedty
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: Vire]
#18496211 - 07/01/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds like alot of work compared to just raising water to temp on a stove top
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KingCloyster
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: twistedty]
#18496274 - 07/01/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Vire said:
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twistedty said:
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KingCloyster said: Is there any way to modify the tek for an AA 50x sterilizer or do I need a stock pot?
pressure cookers are recommended becuase they are insulated and hold heat well 
If ya wanna hold the heat well, do what I do. Do all your pasteurization in a big camping cooler. I use a temp control device, a bucket heater & an aquarium water-fan (for circulation of all that water).
Two biggest benefits to this method: 1). You can pasteurize a lot of sub all at the same time. 2). This method gets the water right where you want it and holds it there. Bucket heater + a temp control device = no worries of ever accidentally sterilizing.
There is a tek on this somewhere on the forums....And it does have its downsides. Size is an issue. I do all my pasteurization outside on my deck so I have room to work. It's also the best place for me to drain all that hot water once I'm done.
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twistedty said: sounds like alot of work compared to just raising water to temp on a stove top
I think my best option would be to get a big stock pot with a lid from Walmart... I would do the camping cooler but I live in a 1 BdRm apartment
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twistedty
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stock pot would work you jsut have to baby sit the jars alot more since its not insulated
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Uhurungus
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: twistedty]
#18496292 - 07/01/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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out of curiosity, have you taken a temp reading near the outside of your bags toward the end of the process? or toward the end of the actual "heating up" of the water (before you turn off the heat)?
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FrankHorrigan
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Uhurungus said: out of curiosity, have you taken a temp reading near the outside of your bags toward the end of the process? or toward the end of the actual "heating up" of the water (before you turn off the heat)?
Not sure if you were asking me or ty, but I have taken temps from all over the top half of the bag (top edges to different parts of the center). Most variance I've ever seen from the center is about two degrees F.
Placing the lid on the stockpot when you turn the heat on will keep that whole sub nice and evenly heated.
I've run this pasteurization hundreds of times by now, with everything from coir to poo and it has yet to let me down.
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KingCloyster said: Is there any way to modify the tek for an AA 50x sterilizer or do I need a stock pot?
Use the stock pot
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Uhurungus
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this is perfect timing for me. after having done 3 various bulks with damion5050 tek and having issues i decided to bite the bullet with my presto and do the next one with your tek frank. i was so stoked to see this addendum this morning!
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KingCloyster
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: Uhurungus]
#18496478 - 07/01/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks frank!
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Vire
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: Vire]
#18497068 - 07/01/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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In case anyone was actually looking, here is the Cooler tek. It's not for everyone, but it does work.
Easy, Inexpensive & Scalable Bulk Pasteurizer - Requires No Monitoring & is Hands Free in Operation http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17076834/page/1
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: Vire]
#18497284 - 07/01/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for plugging an old tek on my tek.
Do you mind?
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twistedty
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FrankHorrigan said: Thanks for plugging an old tek on my tek.
Do you mind? 
rehahhaha
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Vire
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FrankHorrigan said: Thanks for plugging an old tek on my tek.
Do you mind? 
Sorry, I never intended to bruise any egos.
The floor is all yours.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: Vire]
#18499024 - 07/01/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not an ego thing, it's an inferior tek you're recommending on a tek that is (fairly) widely referenced at the moment. Just seemed a bit weird to me considering 
There is also no reason not to let your water boil. The center of the substrate is the temp that matters, the rest can hit 200F+ no problem so long as the center remains under 165F.
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Uhurungus
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isn't that the major problem with damions bucket tek? pouring the boiling water over the sub over cooks some but not all of it while properly pasteurizing the majority of it? (assuming you watch the temps etc)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: Uhurungus]
#18499968 - 07/01/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damions tek is not proper pasteurization because it is too hot for too long sometimes and heats very unevenly. Coir can sometimes handle this partial sterilization but not always.
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magicman80
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Love your teks Frank! I am already having success with my monotub using this pasteurization tek! I have a question with regards to using bags. I have to use my pc to sterilize grains tonight & I'm going out of town for July 4th weekend, so I'm going to have to use my stock pot to pasteurize substrate tonight for another batch that's ready to go.
Since my stock pot isn't large enough to accommodate jars, I'll be using ziploc bags. When inserting the thermometer, how do I ensure that water doesn't get into the bag?
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tko
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Re: My Pasteurization Process [Re: magicman80]
#18501783 - 07/02/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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seal the bag around the thermometer with a bread tie or wire...or even duct tape.
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tbagtag
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Thanks for the update, glad you're finally ok with the bags. I love using bags as I can fit more into a bag than a jar and do more in one session.
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