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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: MrHill]
    #18497627 - 07/01/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I reckon the mdma that hospitalized those 100 was mixed with something very dangerous even in small doses; it would be a pretty unusual coincidence if 100 people were to all overdose on something that isn't dangerous in small doses at the same festival

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: gulper2323]
    #18497636 - 07/01/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I'm betting PMA/PMMA. Test kits should be available cheaply and encouraged, just like condom use is encouraged.

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: igCorcaigh]
    #18497756 - 07/01/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Test your shit!
Very few OD deaths can be linked to pure MDMA or LSD without a pretty extreme dose.  Almost certainly something else was being passed around as ecstasy.

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: igCorcaigh]
    #18497763 - 07/01/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:sad: a bunch of people i know went to this, im kind of not that suprised this happened though

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: el_barto]
    #18497848 - 07/01/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

A bunch of people I know went to.
It really is sad that this is pushed out of the media rather than "Hey, test your fucking drugs"

I woke up this morning, and my mom started rambling about this article, and I had to give her an awkward morning breakfast about the use and abuse of MDMA, and what RC's are, and how there's test kits.
I had to explain that no one is going to die off of MDMA alone, and no one will sure as hell lace their molly with lucy.
I think i ended that convo with "People actually care about their health. Or some of them at least.."

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: The Lizard King]
    #18497860 - 07/01/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Hmm I know that line sounds sketchy, but I've had ecstasy that was cut with Ketamine and Heroine before so maybe this isn't so hard to believe.





Not saying that you are wrong, but heroin in e-pills is like mescaline in e-pills....rare, if even in existence.

An oral dose is like 100mg, which you could get high as balls off of like 10 times if injected.

From Erowid:
"Rumors about heroin in ecstasy are mostly unfounded and untrue. As ecstasy users seek to explain the differences in experiential qualities of the often adulterated, misbranded ecstasy pills they take, heroin (as a dangerous bugbear lurking in the shadows) is often included in the list of substances that might be in ecstasy pills. Although heroin has been detected in a couple of ecstasy pills since the late 1990s, and fentanyl was detected in two pills in 2005, there is no reason to believe that heroin or related opiates are present in enough ecstasy pills to warrant the concerns expressed by some inexperienced ecstasy users."

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: tothemoon]
    #18497872 - 07/01/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Hmm I know that line sounds sketchy, but I've had ecstasy that was cut with Ketamine and Heroine before so maybe this isn't so hard to believe.





Not saying that you are wrong, but heroin in e-pills is like mescaline in e-pills....rare, if even in existence.

An oral dose is like 100mg, which you could get high as balls off of like 10 times if injected.

From Erowid:
"Rumors about heroin in ecstasy are mostly unfounded and untrue. As ecstasy users seek to explain the differences in experiential qualities of the often adulterated, misbranded ecstasy pills they take, heroin (as a dangerous bugbear lurking in the shadows) is often included in the list of substances that might be in ecstasy pills. Although heroin has been detected in a couple of ecstasy pills since the late 1990s, and fentanyl was detected in two pills in 2005, there is no reason to believe that heroin or related opiates are present in enough ecstasy pills to warrant the concerns expressed by some inexperienced ecstasy users."




I concur. Did it test positive for H???
I've had some really strong rolls that have made me feel like I'm about to nod off. I'm in this sleepy, relaxed haze of awesomeness.

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: MrHill]
    #18497901 - 07/01/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

8 people have died in recent days in N. Ireland due to "Ecstasy tablets", more than likely containing adulterants like PMA/PMMA.

Yet, there is no public campaign to encourage testing, no test kits sold at festivals, no debate, nothing.

I make the comparison to condoms, because I remember installing condom machines in pubs and clubs here in the early '90s when it was illegal to do so, and people were dying from HIV. The argument then was availability of condoms would encourage people to have sex.

And so, I see something similar happening right now. I think MDMA should be legal and regualted. Failing that, we need a public information campaign, with widely and cheaply available testing kits, especilly in clubs and at festivals. Because what is happening right now is tragic and insane.

OK, rant over :confused:

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: MrHill]
    #18497910 - 07/01/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I've had some really strong rolls that have made me feel like I'm about to nod off. I'm in this sleepy, relaxed haze of awesomeness.




That's what a high dose of MDMA does to me...

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: igCorcaigh]
    #18497918 - 07/01/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I think it will come with due time my friend.
The public can't poison them selves for ever.. :rolleyes:

And exactly my point, the MDMA experiences feels quite dopey in a way.

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: MrHill]
    #18497954 - 07/01/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yep, dealer did it right in front of me because I (and the dealer as well) wanted to know what was in them.

However, I didn't notice any Heroine or Ketamine like effects (which I can't attest to because I've never done either by themselves) that stuck out from the roll.


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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: The Lizard King]
    #18498555 - 07/01/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It was probably people buying bags of mdma, and having no clue what dosage to take they took to much to much.


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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: Morel Guy]
    #18498775 - 07/01/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I feel really bad for the family and friends of the person who died and the others that were injured, but I have to admit I used(what do I mean used to my source just dried up)  love MDMA even though I'm pretty sure it was never pure sometimes it was real speedy other times it was real mellow I liked the mellower ones the best but this was back in the 90's. And as igCorcaigh said About the lsd ones i also had them and totally agree on those being wonderful. Sometimes we'd get some shit that when u were peaking ur eyes would shake and everything would be shaking psychedelically back and forth. Those were probably the best, it was a fucking crazy awesome feeling. Never had molly thought. Man I miss that shit I swear it was like a four to 6 hour orgasm,no shit!


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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: redeyesmj]
    #18499180 - 07/01/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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pmma maybee??





that thought crossed my mind too.  find it hard to believe so many people overdosing on Molly.  gotta be a catch somewhere

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: Ogla]
    #18499559 - 07/01/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like RC's :frown:

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
    #18499678 - 07/01/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

The average person would have to eat towards a gram of good mdma to experience any adverse effects such as those being described, yet alone death. The LD50 is extremely high. 110% sure this is not MDMA people are getting hurt with.
To the posters talking about the different away of rolls back in the 90's etc, the psychedelic feel could most likely of come from MDA, or a 2c-x compound (most likely 2c-b). It's highly unlikely anyone would press pills with LSD, and you would know because you'd be tripping a good 6 hours + after your roll has ended.

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: MrHill] * 1
    #18500231 - 07/02/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

The first thing I thought of was the weather.  I've been to Gorge a few times and it's fucking hot.  Especially after a full day of being in the sun at temps around 100 degrees.  Even if it wasn't an RC and was actually MDMA, anybody would be pretty wrecked in those conditions if they weren't careful.

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: PhlockingOutside]
    #18500451 - 07/02/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

this^

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: fatchillin]
    #18500508 - 07/02/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm:

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Re: 1 dead, dozens hospitalized after drug overdoses at music festival [Re: MrHill]
    #18500565 - 07/02/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

NEVER TAKE molly once I popped one was ballin my eyes out. MDMA on the other hand good stuff just smashed too much eeeh.

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