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Offlinemonoamine
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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1850258 - 08/25/03 11:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

There has always been some hatred of each other,but almost every organized religion has been like that. Sure some of this ancient hatred has been carried over by hardcore fundalmentalists,but the fighting in its current reincarnation stems directly from the the '47-'48 invasions.
I believe if the Israeili's would comply with the (I can't remember the exact year right now) boundries,the fighting would calm down considerably.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: monoamine]
    #1850741 - 08/26/03 07:27 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Why don't the Israelis deserve a place to live? Look at a map. Israel is a tiny piece of the land over there. The Arabs have the rest of it.

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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Malachi]
    #1851066 - 08/26/03 10:36 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

of course, after all of "them" are killed, there won't be any of "them" left.

Yep, and then they'll just have to kill all the children of "them" and all the relations of "them" and all the relations of relations of "them"....



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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: shakta]
    #1851070 - 08/26/03 10:38 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Why don't the Israelis deserve a place to live? Look at a map. Israel is a tiny piece of the land over there. The Arabs have the rest of it.

So why not give them the state of Virginia? Or Texas? Why do the arabs have to give up their land? The americans support them, why not let them live in peace in their own state in America?


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851085 - 08/26/03 10:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm, we could give them New York.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: shakta]
    #1851094 - 08/26/03 10:48 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I think the USA should invade Isreal if they do go to war. This is because Isreal really has weapons of mass destruction and could use them.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851135 - 08/26/03 11:06 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
Why don't the Israelis deserve a place to live? Look at a map. Israel is a tiny piece of the land over there. The Arabs have the rest of it.

So why not give them the state of Virginia? Or Texas? Why do the arabs have to give up their land? The americans support them, why not let them live in peace in their own state in America?




Because they have lived in the region for centuries maybe?

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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1851159 - 08/26/03 11:13 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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PsiloKitten said:
Israel didnt become a state till 48...  so yeah, technically this reincarnation of animosity is 55 years old.  However,  the fight between muslim and jewish beliefs is definately not only 55 years old, silly.  It dates back to Esau and Mohammed and Jesus.  When the religion was born, the Jews controlled Mecca, not the Gentiles.  Hello, battle of badr. 622.. after mohammed has his "Night of power" .. how about the soon following battles at Ditch and Uhud.. the killing of a thousand jewish captives, 630 capture of mecca, 634  invasion of Jerusalem?... etc, etc? 




:thumbup:  Bingo!

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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Autonomous]
    #1851221 - 08/26/03 11:35 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

how about we just give them japan?


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Malachi]
    #1851233 - 08/26/03 11:41 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

hah!

and piss off the INVENTORS of the suicide bombing?

:tongue:

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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: shakta]
    #1851478 - 08/26/03 01:20 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Because they have lived in the region for centuries maybe?

Israel was formed in 1948.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851496 - 08/26/03 01:27 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The people have been in the area for a couple thousand years.

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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: shakta]
    #1851515 - 08/26/03 01:34 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

So what?

Do they live another thousand years of misery (or more accurately till the oil runs out and America doesn't need a military ally in the area anymore) or do we solve the problem overnight by simply giving them a state in America?

It would go a long way to ending muslim terrorism too.


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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851531 - 08/26/03 01:42 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

It's a "holy land".

I don't think holiness transferrable.

What a dumb concept.


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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: wingnutx]
    #1851545 - 08/26/03 01:45 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Guess you'd have to ask the average jew where he'd rather live. Free with zero terrorism in america or dealing with suicide bombers every day.

I think you'd find quite a few would prefer America.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851548 - 08/26/03 01:45 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quite a few came from America (I don't mean as a large percentage of the population though).

** edit: Here's an article about some of them. ***


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Edited by Autonomous (08/26/03 01:55 PM)

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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851552 - 08/26/03 01:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I know a few who do, at least. Some of my trainers are Israeli.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1851571 - 08/26/03 01:51 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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I think you'd find quite a few would prefer America.



They are free to come here if they choose. Yet there they stay.


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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1851641 - 08/26/03 02:12 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly luv. Their are quite a few American Jews that live there Alex. The problem now is that the Palestinians can not control the groups like Hamas long enough for a peace process to work. I am not giving the Israelis a free pass, they have done their share of bullshit over the years. I just believe they are doing the right thing now by going after the militants. As long as they are allowed to exist, there will never be peace. They don't want a Palestinian state. They want it all. The want the Jews extinquished, and they won't be happy until they reach that point. Personally, I find it hypocritical of my government to tell Israel not to retaliate. We sure as hell would. I heard a great analogy yesterday.

Suppose a group of radical Mexicans decided to start targeting civillians in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. They claim they won't stop until the US gives the land back that we 'stole' from them. This is basically how groups like Hamas are trying to accomplish their goals. There is no way in hell we would allow this to continue. We would root them out and kill every last one of them. I think it is safe to say the English would do the same thing in a similar situation. Yet, no one wants to allow Israel to do the same thing.

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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Israel to liquidate Hamas. [Re: shakta]
    #1851649 - 08/26/03 02:14 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

That group would be called 'Mecha'

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