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 Re: The last ever materialist debate thread  [Re: Memories]
#18476382 - 06/26/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh, well shit. It's been a blast, y'all! 
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#18476401 - 06/26/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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You've had your chance to show us youre a big girl. 
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Icelander]
#18476439 - 06/26/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I choose to demonstrate my understanding of the concept through a performance piece: I am not going to spend my precious time reading that book when I have more enjoyable things to do with my time before I die.
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Icelander]
#18476447 - 06/26/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Big boned or just plain ole BIG?
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#18476448 - 06/26/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will accept a private performance any day. 
Let me know when is convenient. 
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#18476462 - 06/26/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was gonna walk across the Grand Canyon, but that has been done to death, so I just crossed the street without looking. 
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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (06/26/13 09:24 PM)
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I plugged five marijuanas. 
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Memories]
#18476563 - 06/26/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Memories said:
I plugged five marijuanas.
Five?!
You're outta control.
I, like, really don't want to read that book... I imagine it being very dry and void of any pleasure. Sort of like reading Neitzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil" was for me. I will take the cliffnotes version any day.
I bought Murakami's "Wind-Up Bird Chronicles" a year ago and still haven't finished it.. You know why? Because he drags on and on and on, and yes - the story is interesting, but I just want the damn thing to GET ON WITH IT. I think it's the language he uses. Murakami is very modest with his language usage. I imagine Becker, writing as an anthropologist, would do the same.
This little problem of not wanting to dredge through literary behemoths is probably a form of DA, as I stated earlier. It's probably also a personality thing. Borderline ADD. I'm working on it. I did read the Wikipedia entry for DA, so give me some credit.
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Memories]
#18476594 - 06/26/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Memories said:
I plugged five marijuanas.
Only 5? You lightweight.
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Cyclohexylamine] 1
#18476707 - 06/26/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Penelope_Tree said:
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Memories said:
I plugged five marijuanas.
Five?!
You're outta control.
I, like, really don't want to read that book... I imagine it being very dry and void of any pleasure. Sort of like reading Neitzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil" was for me. I will take the cliffnotes version any day.
I bought Murakami's "Wind-Up Bird Chronicles" a year ago and still haven't finished it.. You know why? Because he drags on and on and on, and yes - the story is interesting, but I just want the damn thing to GET ON WITH IT. I think it's the language he uses. Murakami is very modest with his language usage. I imagine Becker, writing as an anthropologist, would do the same.
This little problem of not wanting to dredge through literary behemoths is probably a form of DA, as I stated earlier. It's probably also a personality thing. Borderline ADD. I'm working on it. I did read the Wikipedia entry for DA, so give me some credit.
I totally agree. I only read like 1/3 of Denial of Death before I was bored to death and had to be resuscitated by an EMT.
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tymoteusz3 said:
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Memories said:
I plugged five marijuanas.
Only 5? You lightweight.
Don't fuck with me bro! Seriously, like I listen to rap music and play violent video games; I'm a loose cannon motherfucker! 
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#18476896 - 06/26/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Penelope_Tree said:
I, like, really don't want to read that book... I imagine it being very dry and void of any pleasure. Sort of like reading Neitzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil"
I'm pretty much at that point with philosophy in general, in the past few years can't say I've learned much from the study (and I have been actively reading / contemplating / debating). After years of reapproaching the same concepts over and over, I've taken a more zen approach to thinking.
Although I still debate for practical reasons IRL, its been awhile since I heard a concept which struck me as new. Its something like in music (which is my field), after studying various genres I can see plainly the similarities in theory in new genres and instruments. Once you understand music in general and the process of learning an instrument, all the information just transfers.
Philosophy is the same, there are still ways to stimulate the mind but I no longer find reading dissertations to be amongst them. That's just me though
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I don't expect any honesty here as most of the alleged 'truth-seekers' could give a flying fuck about truth. But here is the question anyway:
If you could live in a world of nothing but materialists or nothing but non-materialists, which would you choose and why?
Hint: If you choose the latter, you would have no car, electricity, stereo, A/C, computer and so on.
Stupid question, the former is pretty much right now, the latter I have no way of knowing what it would be like.
As usual you only seem to see the extremes of the argument, just as this question only relates to the extremes.
It is your assumption that most non materialists think of it in total black & white, many I have met do not.
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Memories]
#18477570 - 06/27/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Memories said:
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Penelope_Tree said:
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Memories said:
I plugged five marijuanas.
Five?!
You're outta control.
I, like, really don't want to read that book... I imagine it being very dry and void of any pleasure. Sort of like reading Neitzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil" was for me. I will take the cliffnotes version any day.
I bought Murakami's "Wind-Up Bird Chronicles" a year ago and still haven't finished it.. You know why? Because he drags on and on and on, and yes - the story is interesting, but I just want the damn thing to GET ON WITH IT. I think it's the language he uses. Murakami is very modest with his language usage. I imagine Becker, writing as an anthropologist, would do the same.
This little problem of not wanting to dredge through literary behemoths is probably a form of DA, as I stated earlier. It's probably also a personality thing. Borderline ADD. I'm working on it. I did read the Wikipedia entry for DA, so give me some credit.
I totally agree. I only read like 1/3 of Denial of Death before I was bored to death and had to be resuscitated by an EMT.
I have very bad ADD, the kind where I have trouble keeping fairly basic jobs. I found Becker's book absolutely fascinating, his writing is very creative, having been influenced very clearly both by art and scientific text.
Although, Escape from Evil is a better written book in terms of prose alone IMO.
I think if you picked it up, you might be surprised. The former is engaging, and certainly the latter is not dry; though rather dark and macabre.
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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards.
"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Grapefruit]
#18477696 - 06/27/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Somehow I knew you and others would be incapable of answering a very simple hypothetical question.
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My point is that at best the question is only whimsically related to the argument you are pushing. Guess you have no response to that.
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Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#18478484 - 06/27/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am not going to spend my precious time reading that book when I have more enjoyable things to do with my time before I die.
Sounds like classic DA. 
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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Grapefruit] 1
#18478531 - 06/27/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said:
I have very bad ADD, the kind where I have trouble keeping fairly basic jobs. I found Becker's book absolutely fascinating, his writing is very creative, having been influenced very clearly both by art and scientific text.
Although, Escape from Evil is a better written book in terms of prose alone IMO.
I think if you picked it up, you might be surprised. The former is engaging, and certainly the latter is not dry; though rather dark and macabre.
I did pick it up, and I found it boring and repetitive. I don't need to force myself to read the book to understand Death Anxiety, and I would much rather educate myself with peer-reviewed studies on TMT that build on this.
I have this opinion on pretty much every philosophical text, as they can usually be proficiently summarized in a small fraction of words compared to the original text.
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Somehow I knew you and others would be incapable of answering a very simple hypothetical question.
You're hypothetical question is stupid. 
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Memories]
#18478919 - 06/27/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Memories said:
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Grapefruit said:
I have very bad ADD, the kind where I have trouble keeping fairly basic jobs. I found Becker's book absolutely fascinating, his writing is very creative, having been influenced very clearly both by art and scientific text.
Although, Escape from Evil is a better written book in terms of prose alone IMO.
I think if you picked it up, you might be surprised. The former is engaging, and certainly the latter is not dry; though rather dark and macabre.
I did pick it up, and I found it boring and repetitive. I don't need to force myself to read the book to understand Death Anxiety, and I would much rather educate myself with peer-reviewed studies on TMT that build on this.
I have this opinion on pretty much every philosophical text, as they can usually be proficiently summarized in a small fraction of words compared to the original text.
This is likely because it was well discussed here on the boards.
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: The last ever materialist debate thread [Re: Icelander]
#18478942 - 06/27/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's certainly part of it.
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