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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Icelander]
    #18488963 - 06/29/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

they've got some cool kettle bells with monkey faces on them. personally, i don't use kettle bells, but if i did i would want to use those bad ass mother fuckers.


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if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: blingbling]
    #18502791 - 07/02/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you very much for all of your contributions, comments, insights and suggestions.

To clarify , I am not back peddling on alcohol and am committed to full abstinence from alcohol - because it is a hindrance to progress and forbidden by the fifth precept of buddhism.

With regards to use of electronics , I recommend not participating in social media such as Facebook , twitter and myspace etc. this is because these are a massive time and energy drain on many people and that time is better used on activities such as meditation and yoga .

However , this is not a formal part of the project, just a suggestion . If you are doing the rest of the project (all the yoga, meditation, brain training etc) you can do whatever you want in your leisure time. If you personally find electronics detrimental , by all means make abstinence part of your own program.

If someone wants to substitute tai chi, chi gong, Kung fu or some other meditative and martial physical discipline , that is fully supported , although some yoga should also be incorporated.

I am adding abstinence from masturbation to the program , but healthy love making is not discouraged. Full celibacy is supported for those who feel called to adopt it.

Spiritualizing love making through tantra is encouraged but not mandatory .


I reiterate my belief in the value and importance of well chosen and proven supplements .


Now a brief update on my progress:

I have been taking SAMe and noopept for almost a week and the benefits are starting to manifest. I am enjoying doing the full set of lumosity brain training exercises (40 training games) and my scores are improving .

I have been doing regular yoga classes and getting enormous pleasure and benefits from it. My practice is improving and with it my mood. The line between yoga and meditation is diminishing as I become better at breath awareness during the Asana.

I yesterday's returned from a 50 km woodland hike with two overnights camping in the woods. I should mention that communing with nature is highly encouraged and camping, hiking and canoeing whenever possible is another part of the project . It was physically challenging but highly gratifying.

My overall fitness level is currently 'very good' and improving. However , my balance is very weak (possibly because of breaking both feet in the past ) and I struggle greatly with the balancing postures in yoga. I am fully confident yoga will improve my balance with time .

I also went canoeing and hiking with a friend before the recent camping trip, so I have had a lot of outdoor exercise recently which is wonderful .

I have missed a few meditations while out in the bush and will make sure to make up for it with extra long meditations.

I have been taking vitamin c, vitamin d, b vitamin complex, coconut oil, raw garlic, noopept , SAMe and fish oil.
I will switch supplements as they run out.

My dream recall is currently very good.  My lucid dreaming is currently occasional (1-2 times a week).

I did not mention in the OP that I also keep a journal of all my progress with project mastermind and that is an important part of the program.

I should point out that benefits of the program in my own life may not be totally clear as much of it is already my usual lifestyle and I have been practicing elements of it for years.

Project Mastermind is more a systematization of my regular lifestyle and a commitment to increased discipline, rather than something new I am beginning. Likewise I have no intention of stopping the project after four months, but intend to continue it as a permanent lifestyle.

That is my update for now. Best wishes to all in your own paths.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18502864 - 07/02/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I am adding abstinence from masturbation to the program , but healthy love making is not discouraged. Full celibacy is supported for those who feel called to adopt it.






:dudewtf:  :pope:

edit: I think you're saying that no sex/masturbation would be a part of the plan, but if you have a partner, then love making is part of your job description and withholding it for 4mo isn't a good idea for your relationship.  Anyways, you have to clarify.  Who's to say what's healthy love making (and how that's different from healthy masturbation)?


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18505379 - 07/03/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Cool man keep up with the post.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: CosmicJoke] * 1
    #18505640 - 07/03/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
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Moonshoe said:

I am adding abstinence from masturbation to the program , but healthy love making is not discouraged. Full celibacy is supported for those who feel called to adopt it.






:dudewtf:  :pope:

edit: I think you're saying that no sex/masturbation would be a part of the plan, but if you have a partner, then love making is part of your job description and withholding it for 4mo isn't a good idea for your relationship.  Anyways, you have to clarify.  Who's to say what's healthy love making (and how that's different from healthy masturbation)?






Healthy love making is found by paying attention to SENSUALITY.



But also, this is called the "MASTERMIND" project, not the MASTER BATE project. Do you know what you come out with at the end of 4 months of jacking off? A lot of semen and nothing much else. Yes, some happy fun times but these are ephemeral, of no lasting fruit. You don't remember half the cigarettes you smoked either.


What you get from 4 months of abstinence and channeling are bodily and meditative insights that will stay with you forever. Assuming abstinence is the out-of-the-ordinary experience then the synaptic connections formed during this phase will bear fruit for the rest of one's life. A degree of control over one's meat and two veg that Professor Jakov Five Fingers can't put a sock to.



In this phase of abstinence, you can cultivate sensuality. You will not get this sensuality from anything but abstinence. As much as the full notes, it's the pauses in the music which make the music. Abstinence teaches you things you will not ever see when bound to a sexual habit and when you return to sexuality, you will be all the stronger.

If you like jacking off, then jack off dude! That's the thing. This is not Puritan Tripping Discussion forums, nobody is going to burn you at the steak for beating yer meat. If ye don't beat yer meat, how can ye have any pudding? How can ye have any pudding if ye don't beat yer meat? STAND STILL LADDIE



:sexymeow:




Note: Under no circumstances do I ever agree with one partner withholding sex from another without mutual agreement and mutual benefit. In those cases, the more wholesome soul-generating option is actually to smash those backdoors in with the fury of 300 spartans.


Every time I come onto these forums I sense a strong lack of willingness to *learn* about the potential benefits of abstinence. I mean fair enough if you're writing every post on here with one hand or something but just suspend disbelief for a mere second and enter the world of Taoist sexuality and Tantric methods.

I get the vibe you guys are responding to some fictitious Puritan/Catholic minister who is going to spank your cute purty butthole if he ever catches you with one hand stroking ye olde half blind pocket pet python. Let's leave the medieval times IN the medieval times, shall we? I stopped carrying the girl on my shoulders way back when we crossed the stream, but you are still carrying her in your mind!


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: crkhd] * 1
    #18505675 - 07/03/13 05:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I've gone eight months before without ejaculation.  I didn't notice much difference.  I'm just saying this so you'll know some of us actually have tried it.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: crkhd]
    #18505728 - 07/03/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Good post crkhd :thumbup:

Right now i would amend my project to include sex as mandatory and use it as a type of litmus test of progress while abstaining from meat beating to get that pudding cuz im chronically not getting laid.
Then again im not really trying to right now but when i do i can draw allot of energy from it.

Also i noticed a good wank now and then can clear things up, iv gone 3 month and in the end it didn't change much like Icelander said. Going like 8 to 10 days then yank seams to be a good way to go, still progressive while not being restrictive, maybe work up to more time. It maintains discipline and hormone levels, libido. Sorry if this sounds all menstrual but it keeps an ebb and flow to the energy and maintains a natural cycle, i think cycling like that might bring about a desired out come better than an all in all out stance.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Icelander]
    #18506260 - 07/03/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

There is also the male "period" cycle to consider... keep in mind, brahmacharya is a JOURNEY not an end-game. It is moment-by-moment understanding. You do not "win" the game if you hold your jizz in for 10 years, it NEVER WORKED THAT WAY and that was a false idea you began with. Release is entirely part of the journey. Anyhow, the male estrous cycle... consider!


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I've gone eight months before without ejaculation.  I didn't notice much difference.  I'm just saying this so you'll know some of us actually have tried it.




You're also atheist, believe there is no hope for the human race, ardently desire the genocide/mass extinction of humanity and yourself (but are happy to stay here and consume resources even maintaining this belief until ye olde ticker beats its last tock), and far removed from happiness. And you do not accept the phenomenon of 'Chi', am I correct?

Just to place things in context.

You are not the type of person to begin with, who is going to derive any fruit from this practice. It is two entirely different worlds on the very same Earth.
What that post reads to me, as a person who feels the very real effects of abstinence when I so have the strength, is this:

"I've gone eight months before saving all my money.  I didn't notice much difference [because I didn't spend it, and I can't fucking eat gold in the first place].  I'm just saying this so you'll know some of us actually have tried it."




So let me rephrase.

If you believe in ultimate hope, then celibacy is fruitful. Prepare for magic.

if you believe in ultimate oblivion, then continue jacking off because you are never going to gleam anything in the first place! Your foundation is not for this kind of building!


Samadhi, is another word for total absorption in the love of God. Those who do not acknowledge God, how are they going to delve into such a state?


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


Edited by crkhd (07/03/13 10:09 AM)


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Entersandman]
    #18506307 - 07/03/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow, dude that reminds me of the Soma and its counterpart, the palatine chakra :eek:


http://www.paranormal.de/ballabene/chakra/meister.htm

can you explain a bit more about it?
how long do you meditate on this path and what are the effects? i mean are there any outstandig effects?

in occult literature this stream leads to secretion of ectoplasm :thirdeyeani:





Wow you're freaking me out! I've felt that very circuit in the line spark a few times. But I don't really know much. It's all new to me.

Currently I practice Vipassana meditation.
How I became aware of it is group mantra meditation, Hare Krishna. Keeping in mind, all that Hare Krishna stuff is alien to me but I went with the flow and learnt something. Because when you time the mantra so everyone is a single sound, there are boundary conditions on the flow of air through the body; you obviously cannot breathe in or out at certain times. Thus, by absorbing into the sound, you feel the subtle conduit because in this group absorption, it is far from subtle! It is the main feature of the experience!


So after being aware, I direct Vipassana at it ak IN-Sight meditation, literally seeing, inwards. Just watching and growing your repository of knowledge about sensations and what they do and how they originate and how to help/hinder them. I have been on this path for around two years now. Aware of this particular circuit only for a few months!

The immediate effects

- Drop into total silence at will, provided enough "vavoom" to do so (aka Chi)
- Ability to tap into a furious and limitless anger in the Self... being angry for the sake of being that itself; I use this to get from A=>B faster :lol:
- Feeling like a spinning top that cannot be pushed off balance. Shaken, but never stirred

That's what I can think off off the top of my head. Also there is synesthesia and intuition of a few crazy things. But basically, my world is getting very very psychedelic! All the shit you can do on LSD, a lot of it I have learnt to reproduce while sober. It is very possible, you just gotta *cultivate* the necessary meditation and then it will seem like baby steps when once you would think that stuff is totally impossible.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: crkhd]
    #18506735 - 07/03/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Oh so you got to be in a special club.  I got it.  Somehow I knew they're be some reason or other. :lol:  That's pretty much the way it always works round here. :satansmoking:

and far removed from happiness. And you do not accept the phenomenon of 'Chi', am I correct?

Just to place things in context.


Not quite. I'm happy more than not these days and I am undecided/uncertain about Chi.  Personally I don't see what I believe to be a deciding factor in something that's supposed to be a physical reality. :confused:


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Edited by Icelander (07/03/13 03:42 PM)


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: crkhd]
    #18506748 - 07/03/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

There was quite a few funny little jokes in your last few posts CRKHD.

I remember reading a Taoist once who said that the optimal thing is for a man to ejaculate once every 7-10 days.

I am just going to try not to masturbate in order to preserve sexual energy and also for the discipline of it, as I have never abstained from self-love before.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18507046 - 07/03/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I highly recommend people who have not done so look in to two things.

1. Lumosity- a series of brain training games that are designed using neuroscience and have been extensively tested by prestigious universities and been overwhelmingly shown to have enormous benefits in terms of improved cognition, new brain development, neuron growth, and reduced onset of alzheimers etc.

You can play the games for free on iphone and computer, but I paid for the year long subscription to unlock full access to all 40 brain training games. Loving it.

2. Nootropic drugs- such as Piracetam and noopept, which have been scientifically shown to repair brain damage caused by oxygen depletion, alcohol, drugs, trauma and  aging and therefore to enhance cognition and brain health for almost everybody (everybody has some brain damage, even hitting your head or having a few beers will do it).

Combine the two- daily nootropics and daily brain training games- and you have a recipe for serious neuron growth and repair and profoundly improved thinking.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: crkhd]
    #18507299 - 07/03/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My goal wasn't to derail the thread, I have no intent of practicing "Project Mastermind" in any capacity.  Rather, to have somebody who intends to practice it clarify to themselves what they're doing and why. Simply following rules on sex summed up in less than a paragraph isn't going to help anyone.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Icelander]
    #18507985 - 07/03/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I've gone eight months before without ejaculation.  I didn't notice much difference.  I'm just saying this so you'll know some of us actually have tried it.




That's impressive. I'd imagine it was easier to do before the prevalence of internet porn though.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #18508107 - 07/03/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I've done this recently.  Must not fap. :lol:


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: crkhd]
    #18509193 - 07/03/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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What you get from 4 months of abstinence and channeling are bodily and meditative insights that will stay with you forever. Assuming abstinence is the out-of-the-ordinary experience then the synaptic connections formed during this phase will bear fruit for the rest of one's life. A degree of control over one's meat and two veg that Professor Jakov Five Fingers can't put a sock to.

In this phase of abstinence, you can cultivate sensuality. You will not get this sensuality from anything but abstinence. As much as the full notes, it's the pauses in the music which make the music. Abstinence teaches you things you will not ever see when bound to a sexual habit and when you return to sexuality, you will be all the stronger.






I think it would be a good thing for me to be getting laid. "out-of-the-ordinary experience then the synaptic connections formed during this phase will bear fruit for the rest of one's life" Not everyone diets to loose weight, some need to gain.

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"I've gone eight months before saving all my money.  I didn't notice much difference [because I didn't spend it, and I can't fucking eat gold in the first place].  I'm just saying this so you'll know some of us actually have tried it."

If you believe in ultimate hope, then celibacy is fruitful. Prepare for magic.





Basically the problem i ran into in the past when abstaining. I did not know how to convert my efforts into something useful, basically i stacked gold with out knowing how to cash it. My intentions where good but my knowledge and execution was poor, other than the self control and discipline my efforts where fruitless.
What practices could i have done to make into more than what turned out to be an endurance challenge?

Moonshoe i watched a documentary called Foodmaters, its on netflix and its worth watching if you haven't. The movie talked about about niacin pills, and its affects on depression and anxiety. http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/how-to-take-niacin-vitamin-b3-for-depression-and-anxiety
The movie talks about other benefits of it and goes into other interesting topics i think you would like.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18509367 - 07/03/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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My goal wasn't to derail the thread, I have no intent of practicing "Project Mastermind" in any capacity.  Rather, to have somebody who intends to practice it clarify to themselves what they're doing and why. Simply following rules on sex summed up in less than a paragraph isn't going to help anyone.




To me this is becoming more of a guide and a place a person can start, not something rigged and fixed but something practical within a fixed time frame 4 months that can be tailored to a persons own needs. (sorry Moonshoe if it is meant to be fixed) Its in its infancy but i believe there is something to it and it points in a positive direction, outlining places to focus attention.

Every bodies intention will be different to some extent but basically i think its that we all want a better life and we our conversing on a way to achieve that by combining multiple approaches. Some may want to think clearer or be stronger become better friends and lovers some people might want to cultivate spirit get that chi flowing and get in touch with what it is to be human and whats up with this universal mind god thing. Whatever the reason it starts with improving your self first.

At least that's my take, its about self mastery.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18509459 - 07/03/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well, it's also an attempt to rapidly change your brain.  I'd suggest not to take on so much at once personally, because the effects of each change can be subtle, and doing this all at once you won't know what's what, what's really useful and what isn't.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18509589 - 07/03/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Its a dedication to a lifestyle change. Think of all the new years resolutions that go out the window by February, taking on to much to fast cultivates failure. I think this project implies some amount of existing momentum and experience would be helpful, that should be stated in a revision.

Of coarse its an attempt to rapidly change your brain its laying the foundation for what culminates into a DMT experience. And laying that foundation is another primary reason for it. But even if a person did not use psychedelics that's fine it still has purpose. I could see this project evolving.


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Re: Project Mastermind- Are you in? [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18510917 - 07/04/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely, this is not meant to be a fixed or firm thing, just a platform or framework to be tailored to each individual person's needs, timeframe and priorities.


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