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Some New Found Realizations
    #1845289 - 08/24/03 01:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Xibalba said:
What if this is what happens every night- you 'die' as soon as you fall asleep, and another consciousness is born in the morning with all your memories... Seems ridiculous, because you can remember going to sleep and waking up your whole life.
But those are other people's memories. Your whole life was *really* just today, and it will be exinguished forever the next time you lose consciousness.

Now suppose the same thing is happening every instant...





I love this statement. I am now thinking about how everything is just One, pure energy.

And what about the part of the One experiencing itself?

This probably has a lot to do with the experiencing itself part. Everything is broken down into infinite levels. Each level breaks down the One into smaller and smaller perspectives. This limits the now individual bits of energy from seeing the entire view, so that it can begin to experience itself.

We are just Pure Energy flowing through some system purposely broken down and designed for the ability of a subjective view, to experience the One Creation. Some sort of system is constructed so that memories can be stored, so that some individual, seperate viewpoint can be withheld...

An analogy I am starting to form is of a computer. When you load up your computer, it is always the same, holding the same files and information as had been the time before... but what about the energy that is powering it? It isn't the same energy that has always been powering it, because new energy is flowing in from the wall.. But yet the computer still has the same information stored into it..

And the system that gives the computer form and the ability of storing its information is also composed of energy at different levels.. What I am thinking about now is encapsulation. Have you ever subnetted an IP Address?

Think about binary code. 1's, and 0's. Only two options. A 1, and a 0. Every sort of computer program in existance is running off of those two options. For computers, it is the code that makes up everything else, if you were an individual part in a computer and you "broke out of the Matrix", so to speak, the 1's and the 0's would be the code you would see. Everything that this individual part experienced that seemed so real was in fact just combinations of 1's and 0's.

We are just Pure Energy encapsulated. And, of course, the encapsulation is Pure Energy itself. We are just One, experiencing itself.

Well, that is all I can think of right now, so if I think of more later, I'll post it. I'd appreciate your comments, as they can bring new things out of me, just like the original quote brought this out of me (thanks, Xibalba, 5 Shrooms for you!... I posted it in my own thread because I have a shred of ego left, hehe)
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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1845756 - 08/24/03 05:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think a lot of this depends on what one's definition of "consciousness" is :wink:

I think what makes me primarily ME is the recordings my brain has made (my memories, the ones I can easily recall and ones 'way inside'). So even though my body's cells almost completely replace themselves every seven years or so, I'm still me - this was a point brought up in Waking Life (two chicks in a coffee shop).


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Strumpling]
    #1845815 - 08/24/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with you, when you say that what makes us "us" is the recordings in our brain. It is what makes the computer we are on different than the one in the library.

I am really starting to understand the concept of One and the energy thing, the idea is really starting to take shape in my head. And of course, my brain is just some energy formed into something that can hold my identity, my recollections, etc. Every thought and input I have experienced are stored within (being able to recall all the information, on the other hand, gets a bit tricky.. hehe).

Whatever it is that stores all of this and keeps the identify of who I am within is just made out of energy, and what sort of "powers" this is energy as well.. energy constantly flowing in and out of everything..

The Experience experiencing itself.. my mind is blown..
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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1845854 - 08/24/03 06:18 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah its amazing :smile:


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1846668 - 08/24/03 10:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thats really wierd, because awhile ago I was thinking the same thing.  Kinda scared me  :ooo: 


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: barfightlard]
    #1846970 - 08/25/03 12:54 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Collective Consciousness :wink:


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #1847076 - 08/25/03 01:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

whats the point of even thinking all these thigns? is your life going to be any better or richer having "figured out" all this nonsense? All it does is make a perosn paranoid, makign it harder to enjoy life. Just trust that there is somethign bigger than us and live decently.


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Acid_Zombiie]
    #1847126 - 08/25/03 01:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Um, how does it make someone paranoid?

But, I do like that statement about trusting that there is something out there....

Life is just too ironic for nothing to be out there...


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Acid_Zombiie]
    #1847576 - 08/25/03 06:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Acid_Zombiie said:
whats the point of even thinking all these thigns? is your life going to be any better or richer having "figured out" all this nonsense? All it does is make a perosn paranoid, makign it harder to enjoy life. Just trust that there is somethign bigger than us and live decently.




Is my life going to be any richer? Certainly. Knowing what I know brings out a sort of spiritual sacredness in me, it makes me treasure life for what it really is, instead of just living without any knowledge.

I don't find myself paranoid, or that it is now harder to enjoy life. I find it easier to enjoy life knowing what it really is...

Trust that there is something bigger than us? We are all One. We are all the same. I'll live my life accordingly.
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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Acid_Zombiie]
    #1847635 - 08/25/03 07:54 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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whats the point of even thinking all these thigns? is your life going to be any better or richer having "figured out" all this nonsense? All it does is make a perosn paranoid, makign it harder to enjoy life. Just trust that there is somethign bigger than us and live decently.



Some people climb rocks, and this makes their lives better and richer. Others are content to know that the rocks are out there, and do other things to enjoy life. For some people, including me, thinking about reality and figuring out things is similar to rock climbing in this respect.


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1847689 - 08/25/03 09:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"An analogy I am starting to form is of a computer. When you load up your computer, it is always the same, holding the same files and information as had been the time before... but what about the energy that is powering it? It isn't the same energy that has always been powering it, because new energy is flowing in from the wall.. But yet the computer still has the same information stored into it.. "

would you agree then that turning off the computer is our equivalent to going to sleep? In essence there really isn't death?


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: kaiowas]
    #1847696 - 08/25/03 09:19 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I would agree, because the information is still there. It can always be booted up later.

The difference, I think, is that when we die, it isn't possible again to boot up the information, so technically death is still there.

However, death is meaningless, since we are really only energy divided into different structures so that experience can be made, we are still just Energy.
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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1847703 - 08/25/03 09:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

more like actors playing out different roles to experience and understand, awesome.


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1850337 - 08/26/03 02:17 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Now suppose the same thing is happening every instant...




There was a new scientist/philosopher (sorry, I can't remember his name, but he published less than 3 months ago) , who studied and came to the conclusion that there is no such thing as an instant.

If instants are snap shots of time, then an object moving is still. If it is still, how can it move to the next instant?  In addition, how small could an instant be? even if it is infintely small, it would still be a measure of stillness, because an instant is a spot, a point in time. 

Sorry, quite a sidenote.


Back on topic, I think it is heartwarming to think about this, it evokes some larger energetic connection.  If I am you, and you are me, and so is he, then we share consciousness on a level.  This consciousness, being tied in with your thoughts and feelings, is pondering its existence as being One with everything.  Through your more 'individual' consciousness, you communicate these thoughts to another -aspect of the One- and he thinks this also.  Sharing these thoughts further ignites the One Consciousness, experiencing itself as interconnectedness, where everything is everything and then there is Nothing.
Nothingness occurs, according to Buddhist texts, when this point is reached.  it is not the absence of something, rather it is a realm that transcends language, thought, or emotion because it is those things.  Does the one consciousness need to think? no, because it IS.
I'll post more on this later if i feel like digging my old notes out. :smile:   


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Blastrid]
    #1850355 - 08/26/03 02:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

In my anthro class last week, the professor told us of a man who theorized that heaven in our dreams, that when we sleep our conscious "dies" and experiances a heaven-like state, and the only thing that takes us away from that is our waking up. He said this is why we often take on the form of other things, communicate with loved ones that have moved on, and meet people we have never encountered before. Just thought that that was interesting...


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Blastrid]
    #1852248 - 08/26/03 07:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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If instants are snap shots of time, then an object moving is still. If it is still, how can it move to the next instant? In addition, how small could an instant be? even if it is infintely small, it would still be a measure of stillness, because an instant is a spot, a point in time.




Here's a possible thought: In that instant of time, the snapshot, there is no motion - but there is present a vector for that object which indicates where it will be in the next instant.

In this manner, "time" is created by putting together (as per a jigsaw puzzle) different instants/pieces to create a continuous flow of vectors - all attached head to tail in a coherent fashion. This creates the illusion of motion and the illusion of time.


I vaguely recall reading part of a book a while back called "The End of Time"... I should try to find another copy of it one of these days.


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Pyronate]
    #1853366 - 08/27/03 01:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There is no such thing as time, just different ways of precieving it.


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Murex]
    #1853610 - 08/27/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"There is no such thing as time, just different ways of precieving it."

ok in that last statement, can you tell me what "it" means?


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Pyronate]
    #1853951 - 08/27/03 04:54 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I vaguely recall reading part of a book a while back called "The End of Time"... I should try to find another copy of it one of these days.



Is that by any chance the book by Julian Barbour?

That book describes a multiverse called Platonia in which there is no time dimension, only an infinite collection of all possible "now" instances, each containing a snapshot of existence (including distant galaxies etc). Any track through this Platonia may define a timeline. There was some problem reconciling all this with known physics, which Barbour tried to address in the book, but I don't remember the details.


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Re: Some New Found Realizations [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1854013 - 08/27/03 06:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Time is just an illusion to us, just like everything else....

I mean, yeah, time exists, but only in our mind. It is only our mind that keeps a continous flow between points...

And questioning how small an "instant" is doesn't argue agansit this.. there is basically an infinte amount of "instants" in infinte sizes..
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