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When is the best time to pick fruits??
    #18450145 - 06/21/13 12:37 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Before the caps break or after?? And if after than how long after??

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18450149 - 06/21/13 12:38 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Right after the veil tears for maximum potency to weight ratio.

When the cap opens up and flattens out for printing.

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450151 - 06/21/13 12:39 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

the amount of search bar neglect on this site is really astonishing.

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18450189 - 06/21/13 12:53 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

well I was reading some arguments between pre cap break and post cap break harvests and have read many times that pins are "more potent" as well as different sizes not having any difference in potency so I was trying to get some fresh perspective on the original question as well as a few others that were similar. If the pins are gonna be just as potent as their soon to be fully developed fruit bodies, than why not pick them as soon as they are about an inch big to make room for more?? Resulting in getting more potency out of the amount of weight you have!!

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18450193 - 06/21/13 12:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

maximum potency to weight ratio?? Elaborate in layman's terms haha

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450210 - 06/21/13 01:00 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Right after the veil tears for maximum potency to weight ratio.




It doesn't get much more simpler than how he already said it.

After the veil tears they pretty much just gain water weight I believe.

Edited by TrentBoyett (06/21/13 01:02 AM)

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18450282 - 06/21/13 01:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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mjmihalov said:
Quote:

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Right after the veil tears for maximum potency to weight ratio.




It doesn't get much more simpler than how he already said it.

After the veil tears they pretty much just gain water weight I believe.



ok so pins aren't more potent than full grown fruits?? and do you lose any potency when the spores fall??

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18450283 - 06/21/13 01:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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the amount of search bar neglect on this site is really astonishing.



this search engine kinda sucks

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18450286 - 06/21/13 01:32 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

pins are still more potent BY WEIGHT.

I make good use of the search. you know how to switch between searching site and forum right?

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18450292 - 06/21/13 01:34 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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the amount of search bar neglect on this site is really astonishing.



this search engine kinda sucks



:facepalm: Not if you know how to use it.

Use the filters.....

 

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450347 - 06/21/13 02:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe I don't know how. I just click message board and go to the search engine. Is there a better way?? I guess I don't understand the difference between the search engine in the top right hand corner and the one at the bottom. Maybe I don't understand the site completely. I would like to understand the difference, however, rude comments (and there are many) aren't helping.

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450412 - 06/21/13 02:34 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No one was really rude, but here ya go.

Click on the top right above the search bar that says "search our forums".
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That will take you to the advanced search page where you type in what words to search for and apply certain filters.
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Notahacker420 said:





Here are some tips on using it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/searchtips.php

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18450423 - 06/21/13 02:39 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Is there an abbreviation page cause that could be helpful. What is coir??

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18450438 - 06/21/13 02:46 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

basicly shortly after it's a pin it has everything there already including mass and potency, it just starts pumping it's cells full of water to "grow"


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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: cronicr]
    #18450440 - 06/21/13 02:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Mushroom Cultivation Abbreviations


50/50  = 50% vermiculite/50% peat moss
aq.    = aqueous (water based)
BRF    = Brown Rice Flour
CFL(s) = Compact Florescent Light bulb(s)
coir  = coco coir; coconut fiber; coconut "hair"
contam = contamination
DNR    = Dunk N' Roll
FAE    = Fresh Air Exchange
FC    = Fruiting Chamber
G2G    = Grain to Grain [transfer]
GB    = Glove Box
GE    = Gas Exchange
GH    = Green House
GLC    = Grain Liquid Culture
HEPA  = High Efficiency Particulate Arrestor
hpoo  = horse manure
inoc  = inoculate or inoculant
karo  = A brand of light corn syrup (dextrose)
LC    = Liquid Culture
LME    = Light Malt Extract
Martha = "Martha Stewart everyday stationary storage closet", a shelf inside a zippered plastic cover
MEA    = Malt Extract Agar
MS    = Multi-Spore
MT    = Mono Tub
myc    = mycelium
PC    = Pressure Cooker; sometimes used as shorthand for P. cubensis
PDA    = Potato Dextrose Agar
PF    = Psilocybe Fanaticus, author of the "PF Tek"
pin    = primordia, the beginning of a mushroom fruit body
PMP    = Poor Man's Pod
PSI    = Pounds per Square Inch
RH    = Relative Humidity
RR    = RogerRabbit
SAB    = Still-Air Box
SFD('s)= Synthetic Filter-Disks
SGFC  = Shot Gun Fruiting Chamber
SWIM  = Someone Who Isn't Me
tek    = technique
TiT    = Tub in Tub
TMC    = Paul Stamets' "The Mushroom Cultivator"
Trich. = Trichoderma
verm  = vermiculite
WBS    = Wild Bird Seed

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Mycological and OMC abbreviations
by FastFred (Shroomery) Copyright 2007
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50/50  = 50% vermiculite/50% peat moss
50/50 = 50/50 with gypsum, lime, or oyster shell added to buffer the pH
AA    = All American (Company that makes the best pressure cookers)
AAPC  = All American Pressure Cooker
aq.    = aqueous (water based)
BE    = Biological Efficiency
BRF    = Brown Rice Flour
BT    = Bacillus thuringiensis, (i.e. Gnatrol) kills fungus gnats and other pests
CEV    = Closed Eye Visuals
CFM    = Cubic Feet per Minute
coir  = coco coir; coconut fiber; coconut "hair"
contam = contamination
D&R    = Dunk & Roll
DDI    = Double distilled De-Ionized water
DE    = Diatomaceous Earth
DEC    = Double Ended Casing
dH2O  = distilled H2O (water)
DI    = De-Ionized water
DNR    = Dunk N' Roll
DT    = Double Tub
EtOH  = Ethanol
FAE    = Fresh Air Exchange
FFAE = Frequent Fresh Air Exchange
FC    = Fruiting Chamber
FH    = Flow Hood
FOAF  = Friend Of A Friend
FSR    = Free Spore Ring
G2G    = Grain to Grain [transfer]
GB    = Glove Box
GGMM  = Paul Stamets' "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms"
H2O2  = Hydrogen Peroxide (3% is the standard available concentration)
HEPA  = High Efficiency Particulate Arrestor
hpoo  = horse manure
HW    = Honey Water
inoc  = inoculate or inoculant
IPA    = IsoPropyl Alcohol
IYE    = In Your Experience
karo  = A brand of light corn syrup (dextrose)
KOH    = Potassium (K) Hydroxide (OH), a strong base
LC    = Liquid Culture
LS    = Lab Strain
Martha = "Martha Stewart everyday stationary storage closet", a shelf inside a zippered plastic cover
MC    = MonoCulture or Mushroom Community
MeOH  = Methanol
MIC    = Minimum Inhibitory Concentration
MMGG  = Magic Mushroom Growers Guide
MS    = Multi-Spore
MSI    = Multi-Spore Inoculation
MT    = Mono Tub
myc    = mycelium
Mycotopia = A ripoff mushroom site which even stole this guide!
noc    = inoculate
nock  = inoculate
OEV    = Open Eye Visuals
OMC    = Online Mushroom Community
ORF    = Organic Rye Flour
OTD    = Off Topic Discussion; a forum for... yep you guessed it!
OZ    = Ounce
PAM    = PolyAcrylaMide, moisture absorbent crystals
PC    = Pressure Cooker; sometimes used as shorthand for P. cubensis
PF    = Psilocybe Fanaticus, author of the "PF Tek"
pin    = primordia, the beginning of a mushroom fruit body
PM    = Private Message (click the little dot left of the name to send one)
PMP    = Poor Man's Pod
poo    = poop, manure
ppt.  = precipitate
QP    = Quarter Pound
RH    = Relative Humidity
RO    = Reverse Osmosis, as in RO water
RTF    = Read The FAQ
RTV    = Room Temperature Vulcanization (a type of rubber sealant)
SBI    = Single Basidiospore Isolate
soln  = solution
SWIM  = Someone Who Isn't Me
tek    = technique
TiT    = Tub in Tub
TLA    = Three Letter Acronym
TMC    = Paul Stamets' "The Mushroom Cultivator"
topia  = mycotopia, a shroomery knockoff created to sell Hippie3's products.
v/v    = volume/volume
verm  = vermiculite
VOC    = Volitile Organic Chemical
w/v    = weight/volume
WAF    = Wisconsin Aluminum Foundry (Makers of the All American brand)
WBS    = Wild Bird Seed
WT    = Wild Type

ID    = Inner Diameter
OD    = Outer Diameter

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Species abbreviations
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azures = Psilocybe azurescens
copes  = Copelandia cyanescens
cubes  = Psilocybe cubensis
cyans  = Psilocybe cyanescens (a woodlover, often confused with pans)
libs  = Psilocybe semilanceata (AKA Liberty Caps)
mexis  = Psilocybe mexicana (often confused with P. cubensis "Mexican")
pans  = Panaeolus cyanescens (a dung lover, often confused with cyans)
subbs  = Panaeolus subbalteatus (often confused with subs)
subs  = Psilocybe subaeruginosa (often confused with subbs)

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Common internet acronyms you should know
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abv.  = abbreviation
AFA    = As Far As
AFAIK  = As Far As I Know
ATM    = At The Moment
BFE    = Bum-Fuck Egypt
BTW    = By The Way
ETA    = Estimated Time of Arrival
FOAF  = Friend Of A Friend
GJ    = Good Job
GL    = Good Luck
GTFO  = Get The Fuck Out
IDK    = I Don't Know
IIRC  = If I Remember Correctly
IME    = In My Experience
IMHO  = In My Humble Opinion
IMO    = In My Opinion
KISS  = Keep It Simple Stupid
LMAO  = Laughing My Ass Off
mod    = moderator
OFM    = Oh Fuck Me
OMG    = Oh My God
OMFG  = Oh My Fucking God
OTOH  = On The Other Hand
PITA  = Pain In The Ass
ppl    = people
pwn me plz = own me please (asking to be put in their place)
RTF    = Read The FAQ
RTFM  = Read The Fucking Manual
STFU  = Shut The Fuck Up
SWIM  = Someone Who Isn't Me
TC    = Take Care
TIA    = Thanks In Advance
TLC    = Tender Loving Care
TY    = Thank You
UTFSE  = Use The Fucking Search Engine
wot    = what, (I guess that extra letter is just too much.)
WTF    = What The Fuck
YMMV  = Your Mileage May Vary

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450445 - 06/21/13 02:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

BFE:laugh2:


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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18450450 - 06/21/13 02:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Abbreviations
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11478115#11478115

"Coir is the fibrous material found between the hard, internal shell and the outer coat of a coconut."

It's used in bulk substrates.

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18450455 - 06/21/13 02:58 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i think they look coolest before the veil rips. look at the veil, when you
see a little tear near the cap then its good to go.

im also on the edge as to what all the confusion is on dose and
if one big shroom has the same or aroubd the same as one
that was small.

as far as i understand the mushrooms only get big cos
the soak up water like a sponge. they dont cell divide. ill go out there to say it, i think
that no mater what the size thy can have all around the same potency.

for example, i took 1 gram of one inch long cambos on a monday, it was pretty good, nice faint visuals, reaaly intense
color and everything that goes with it

but then three days later i are again but this time 1.33 which wasnr much more, but consisted double ammount of shroom bodies as my fruits keep getting smaller, and i went way off the edge. i was afraid at times, everything was melting and parerns were flying everywhere. it was crazy!!

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: skeletontiger]
    #18452393 - 06/21/13 03:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I read RR's thing and he said that the pins are just as potent as the fully developed fruits.

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Re: When is the best time to pick fruits?? [Re: liljdub]
    #18452410 - 06/21/13 03:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I read RR's thing and he said that the pins are just as potent as the fully developed fruits.



yep, soon after it's a pin it just starts ballooning up and lining it's spore trajectory:cool:


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