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zamora333
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Raid
#18445312 - 06/20/13 12:18 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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So this is a random question, the closet where my mushrooms were living was just infested with ants. They didn't eat or go near my GH but my wife just bombed the whole closed with Raid. You think this will affect my growth or make the shrooms toxic??
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CMOS
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What are you fruiting in?
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itsaconspiracy
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Re: Raid [Re: CMOS]
#18445324 - 06/20/13 12:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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are they in a closed container cause if they are then i would think there safe ,but if the container had an opening that the poisn could go through i wouldn't consume any of the mushrooms
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PussyFart
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He said GH(Green House).
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itsaconspiracy
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well if the GH was fully closed then they should be fine.
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If the GH was fully closed, the mushrooms would be suffering.
Greenhouses should have passive air exchange.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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itsaconspiracy
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Notahacker420 said: If the GH was fully closed, the mushrooms would be suffering.
Greenhouses should have passive air exchange.
yes i know that but i would have closed it if my GF was going to thro a bug bomb in there.
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Just give a few of the fruits to someone you don't care much for as a test subject.
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ganjfather said: Just give a few of the fruits to someone you don't care much for as a test subject.

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itsaconspiracy said: you wanna try some shrooms ganj?
  couldn't help myself
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I never worry much about organophosphates, anyway. They don't bioaccumulate, since the biological half-life is so low. If your mushrooms were in the closet when she bombed, I might consider throwing them out. Otherwise, you'll probably receive no more exposure to them than you probably would from some freshly-washed tomatoes that were grown pre-2002 in the US (or right now in Mexico).
Unlike heavy metals and chlorinated solvents, if Raid and the other chemicals in its homologous series don't kill you right away you can expect no persistent health problems. The concentration of Raid necessary to kill bugs is much, much lower than what you'd need to even make an adult human sick. I guess I'm trying to say you're fine.
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Oeric McKenna
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If you spray raid on or near any food, eating it is hazard. Isnt that number 1 on the can warning???
Raid is some of the nastiest shit I've ever encountered. makes me ill. especially the ant kind. yikes man
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that shit is gross
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Oeric McKenna
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van der griegen said: I never worry much about organophosphates, anyway. They don't bioaccumulate, since the biological half-life is so low. If your mushrooms were in the closet when she bombed, I might consider throwing them out. Otherwise, you'll probably receive no more exposure to them than you probably would from some freshly-washed tomatoes that were grown pre-2002 in the US (or right now in Mexico).
Unlike heavy metals and chlorinated solvents, if Raid and the other chemicals in its homologous series don't kill you right away you can expect no persistent health problems. The concentration of Raid necessary to kill bugs is much, much lower than what you'd need to even make an adult human sick. I guess I'm trying to say you're fine.
It doesn"t take much raid to make a person sick? man, that is so false. if I get near it I get sick as hell.
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itsaconspiracy
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cronicr said:
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ganjfather said: Just give a few of the fruits to someone you don't care much for as a test subject.

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itsaconspiracy said: you wanna try some shrooms ganj?
  couldn't help myself
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Oeric McKenna said:
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van der griegen said: I never worry much about organophosphates, anyway. They don't bioaccumulate, since the biological half-life is so low. If your mushrooms were in the closet when she bombed, I might consider throwing them out. Otherwise, you'll probably receive no more exposure to them than you probably would from some freshly-washed tomatoes that were grown pre-2002 in the US (or right now in Mexico).
Unlike heavy metals and chlorinated solvents, if Raid and the other chemicals in its homologous series don't kill you right away you can expect no persistent health problems. The concentration of Raid necessary to kill bugs is much, much lower than what you'd need to even make an adult human sick. I guess I'm trying to say you're fine.
It doesn"t take much raid to make a person sick? man, that is so false. if I get near it I get sick as hell.
That's because you're a mutant. Are you an Indian or a Jew? I'm being serious here.
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kinkaku
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at my work we have an industrial strength raid its a white can with red labeling and the skull and crossbones type thing.no one can even be in the vicinity when its being sprayed
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van der griegan said: Are you an Indian or a Jew? I'm being serious here.
hey bro stop the trollin man
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Gl on eating those... (I wouldn't touch them if there was the slightest possibility raid got through)
Tell the wife to get those torro traps they walk up into and carry the liquid back to the nest next time. It will keep your lungs and shrooms raid free, and the ants will disappear completely within a couple days. (My house had 6 gigantic ant hills right around it when I moved in, as well as a bunch more further out in the back yard. Those torro traps traps inside the house took out 4 of the close ones within a week and the biggest had ~10' perimeter visible above ground... The rest of the suckers left my house alone, but as they persistently tore up my yard, they became fair play for homemade incendiary devices later that year)
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Oeric McKenna
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Are you fucking kidding me? I'm Irish first of all. Secondly,, raid is a blend of multiple highly toxic insecticides. You can't fathom that it makes people sick?? You should maybe avoid growing food
Hahaha "they don't bioaccumulate" You straight up pulled that out the ass... No need for "accumulation" they sicken you instantly. A human is organic life. just like a giant bug. "Indian or jew" lmfao. Only certain ethnic groups are affected by RAID
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Oeric McKenna said: Are you fucking kidding me? I'm Irish first of all. Secondly,, raid is a blend of multiple highly toxic insecticides. You can't fathom that it makes people sick?? You should maybe avoid growing food
Hahaha "they don't bioaccumulate" You straight up pulled that out the ass... No need for "accumulation" they sicken you instantly. A human is organic life. just like a giant bug. "Indian or jew" lmfao. Only certain ethnic groups are affected by RAID
Okay, you're wrong about a whole lot of stuff here, and I'm wrong about a little. First of all, I do avoid growing food, but the people who grow almost everything you eat spray it down with the active ingredients in Raid all the time. You eat Raid all the time.
Organophosphates don't bioaccumulate. Spend a few minutes learning about something rather than just looking at my post count and dismissing me.
"A human is organic life. Just like a giant bug." This is an intensely stupid statement, and if all organic life were susceptible to the same things, then pasteurization wouldn't work, antibiotic agar wouldn't work, and if you swallowed a few pennies you'd die. Since cobra venom doesn't kill badgers and pigs, that means we're immune to it, right? By your logic we are.
You know that genetic diseases tend to be passed down within ethnic groups, right? One of them is a susceptibility to organophosphates, called pseudocholinesterase deficiency. I could list a whole lot of others, but I suspect you dislike reading.
I was wrong in that some of the new Raid formulations do include chlorinated compounds which have been shown to bioaccumulate in rats when ingested orally at a rate as small as 25ug/g. That's the equivalent of 1.25g for a 50kg human.
Itsaconspiracy, I'm sorry if I came off as a troll. I was genuinely curious, and my next question was going to be whether he was hypersensitive to Novacaine, but I don't really care anymore.
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zamora333
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I took the GH out of the closet the she Raid bombed the closet. I let it air out for like an hour then I put the GH back in but it still smells like Raid in the entire closet. I don't know man I'm not trying to kill anyone it's only three subs so I might just toss them. I'm making 10 new ones tomorrow. She gets psycho when she sees ants hahaha
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get rid of her
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Well, the most important thing is your peace of mind.
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van der griegen said: First of all, I do avoid growing food, but the people who grow almost everything you eat spray it down with the active ingredients in Raid all the time. You eat Raid all the time.
We also eat genetically modified and pesticide sprayed foods all the time, but does this mean it's good for you?
No, they cause cancerous tumors, autism, and other degenerative diseases that the FDA and Monsanto doesn't want you to know about.
But hey, do as you please....it's your body.
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Notahacker420 said:
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van der griegen said: First of all, I do avoid growing food, but the people who grow almost everything you eat spray it down with the active ingredients in Raid all the time. You eat Raid all the time.
We also eat genetically modified and pesticide sprayed foods all the time, but does this mean it's good for you?
No, they cause cancerous tumors, autism, and other degenerative diseases that the FDA and Monsanto doesn't want you to know about.
But hey, do as you please....it's your body.
I used to be an environmental chemist, up to my elbows in dichloromethane and hexavalent chromium. Like most people I live in a smoggy wasteland of diesel exhaust. While I despise the agricultural practices of Monsanto, because of my employment history I feel pretty secure that it won't be the pesticides that carry me off.
My main point here, and you might or might not agree, is that the pesticides in those mushrooms won't compare to the background dosage of the pesticides in the runoff from fields that we drink every day in tap water, eat on our produce, or in the case of organic chlorine toxins, bioaccumulates in beef due to the feeding of treated silage to the poor guys in feedlots.
But once again, the OP's comfort is the most important issue here. If those shrooms are 100% safe and he eats them thinking there's a 75% chance they're safe, he's not going to have a good time.
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Being dragged into senseless arguments isn't my gig dude. I hate reading?? cmon man.
The badger may have evolved immunity to snake venom but thats an erroneous comparison.
We don't have immunity to raid. I'd probably say fuck it & eat the mushrooms but stop acting like raid is safe. Its not approved as a vegatable spay. Puddle some in your hand & let me know. The accumulation Idea is not getting any less false either. No need to let it "accumulate" , it's instant damage. neurological damage & cancer are nothing to fuck with. Environmental science. How to fuck up the environment with science. & yeah we're talking about the new shit for ants. the blue can. its really bad.
& I don't care about your post count one bit, I like to get along with people. I'm Oeric, lets be friends
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Oeric McKenna said: Environmental science. How to fuck up the environment with science.
I couldn't agree more.
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Oeric McKenna said:& yeah we're talking about the new shit for ants. the blue can. its really bad.
& I don't care about your post count one bit, I like to get along with people. I'm Oeric, lets be friends
Sounds like a plan.
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tko
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cronicr knows what to do....hahaha thats what id do if my gf contamd my shit lol
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Re: Raid [Re: tko]
#18446846 - 06/20/13 12:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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So....
Why couldn't you just rinse them off under water, like you'd do with any food? You might lose a few micrograms of psilocybin, but it'd be peace of mind.
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Raid contains pyrethrins. Its the same shit in dog shampoo. When you get lice, the doc prescribes a shampoo with permethrins in it.
When I was younger and lived with my uncle, and his brood, the kids would bring lice home all the time.
I used raid, mixed with conditioner to rid myself of the beasties. Works fine.
Im not saying these compounds are non-toxic. I am saying they are relatively harmless tho.
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They were out of the closet when she raid bombed it? I wouldn't even worry about it.
If you've ever eaten produce from a chain supermarket, or drank tap water, you've consumed much worse.
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zamora333
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Man this post went south real quick hahaha, let's all hold hands and be happy. Life is to short to be mad

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