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InvisibleHooray4Hoffman
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Apparently aborted outdoor colonization - ideas what went wrong?
    #18444239 - 06/19/13 08:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

About one month ago, I took a jar that seemed to be picking up an infection, cut out the bad part, broke it into large-ish pieces, and buried it in my herb garden with some coir. For a while, it seemed to be consolidating well and when I would gently check it seemed to be forming a larger, firm, consolidated area. I checked today and, while there is still white mycelium mixed in with the soil/verm, it is completely broken apart and very loose.

I wasn't betting my future on this working out, but I'm curious if anyone has thoughts on what went wrong.

  • Not enough spawn? While just one jar, I did not spread the pieces out very far at all; I filled in the gaps with coir and added that to the surrounding area; it sure seemed to be growing nicely at one point. You can fruit one jar, so why not one jar broken up and buried in a very concentrated area?
  • Too much sunlight? This herb garden gets several hours of sun a day (it's a garden), but i deliberately buried this under some fairly tall, dense cilantro and mint plants. Sunlight should have been indirect or filtered at worst. Plus, I know lots of people bury sub in gardens, which generally require sunlight. Also, this has been covered by a thin layer of soil and grass clippings.
  • Too hot? The average max this month has been 88, the average min 71. The hottest has been 97.
  • Too much rain? We've had a couple episodes of hard rain, including the last two days. Is it possible for outdoor beds to get so heavily rained on that they just disintegrate or wash away?
  • Nothing is wrong, this is part of the natural cycle? Do outdoor beds firm up, break down, and then firm up again?


Just trying to learn so that I might have success outdoors one day!

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Invisibletko
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Re: Apparently aborted outdoor colonization - ideas what went wrong? [Re: Hooray4Hoffman]
    #18444261 - 06/19/13 08:12 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

did you bury it or raised bed? if buried how deep? it could be alot of things but the majors are temp,humidity,rain etc....

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InvisibleHooray4Hoffman
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Re: Apparently aborted outdoor colonization - ideas what went wrong? [Re: tko]
    #18449382 - 06/20/13 09:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

tko, not sure if I follow your question -- the garden is in a 4x4 ft box situated atop the rest of the ground. I probably dug about 6" into the garden soil to bury the cake.

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Invisibletko
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Re: Apparently aborted outdoor colonization - ideas what went wrong? [Re: Hooray4Hoffman]
    #18451480 - 06/21/13 11:20 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

well it could be contamed i guess..its hard telling really. success outdoors means you have to have suitable climate,high humidity,moderate to higher temps etc... but one jar isnt much spawn for a bed that big. think of size of a mono,less than 2X2 and most use at least 4 quarts spawn...the mycelium probably just grew too weak and died. but like said hard telling.

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