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mshaw21
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LC spawn amount
#18444127 - 06/19/13 07:45 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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If i pastuerize: 1 brick of coir 2 quarts of verm 4 quarts water(roughly).
Will 60 cc's of LC be enough?
Whats the proportion i should use?
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: mshaw21]
#18444184 - 06/19/13 07:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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What tek(s) are you gonna follow?
You don't inoculate bulk with LC or spores, you knock up grain jars or cakes, and once fully colonized you then spawn them to the pasteurized bulk substrate material.
Use 1-3 cc/ml per jar of LC per jar.
Use 1cc/ml or less per jar when using spores.
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mshaw21
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: PussyFart]
#18444323 - 06/19/13 08:24 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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im doin all sorts of different projects but i have ton of LC.
I cant just seal up a bag of pastuerized coir etc.. and knock it up with lc? I swear ive read people do this.
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: mshaw21]
#18444424 - 06/19/13 08:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought you were wanting to spawn to bulk....hence the thread title.
LC is an innoculant, not really considered spawn.
I think you should sterilize, not pasteurize the substrate material, if you plan on going the bag route.
I believe people have done this with success.
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: PussyFart]
#18444461 - 06/19/13 08:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I should do around 3 cc's for each of my half-pint jars of popcorn, NAH420?
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: mpd]
#18444522 - 06/19/13 08:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Or as little as a single drop.^
OP: you won't get far with LC to coir Liquid innoculant is not spawn
Its imperative that you learn to work with grain
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mshaw21
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ive been using grain. I just have a lotta lotta LC and i just wanna see if i can knock up a bag.
Im pastuerizing coir/verm/gypsum right meow...i plan on using 60cc lc.
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: mshaw21]
#18444718 - 06/19/13 09:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok.....
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mshaw21
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ok....so your saying this will fail?
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: mshaw21]
#18444756 - 06/19/13 09:55 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said: What tek(s) are you gonna follow?
You don't inoculate bulk with LC or spores, you knock up grain jars or cakes, and once fully colonized you then spawn them to the pasteurized bulk substrate material.
Use 1-3 cc/ml per jar of LC per jar.
Use 1cc/ml or less per jar when using spores.
http://www.shroomery.org/8398/Preparing-spawn-bags
Injecting liquid culture in spawn bags
step 8
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The bags used in that link have grains in them.
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Quote:
Oeric McKenna said: The bags used in that link have grains in them.
Step 2 specifically says "substrate material".
You can even tell by looking at the pics that its bulk substrate material.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: PussyFart]
#18444939 - 06/19/13 10:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not just grain silly. They worked because because of its addition There's grain in the mix. Enlarge it or read down at the bottom. The first bag looks like either sorghum or wheat berries
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Quote:
Oeric McKenna said: The bags used in that link have grains in them.
yes there is, mixed with dung.
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I like to add about 20% by weight wild bird seed (uncooked) to the compost or manure along with some black mustard seed for oils.
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Yup^
In all seriousness I wish you the best OP I just have no faith in the straight coir becoming well colonized, if at all, by your culture. With coir, even grains act like they've come to a mediocre party compared to other substrates.
My 2 cents. Over & out
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mshaw21
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well im not using straight core and i did fail to mention that im using gypsum as well...
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Re: LC spawn amount [Re: mshaw21]
#18445279 - 06/20/13 12:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gypsum,verm, coir is basically coir.
You say you've done grains? dude. do that
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