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WBS PROBLEM
    #18443764 - 06/19/13 06:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I soaked my WBS using franks tek, and after it came to a simmer in the pot there was some gypsum all clumped to the bottom

is this a problem. i stirred it verrry verry well...

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18443800 - 06/19/13 06:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Some of its gypsum, and some of it is likely sand/rocks that have clumped to gather with the starches and gypsum. ..

Either way your fine and can use what you have.

I have found that doing your rinses in a rather fine strainer (as opposed to a bucket or pan) in smaller amounts greatly reduces the sludge from wbs cooks.  (Maybe that's just the cheap wbs I use though)

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18443809 - 06/19/13 06:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Do you use pelletized gypsum?

I know I do, and I always burn a little to the  bottum of my kettle. Isn't a big deal if it is just a little bit.

I've found with pelletized stuff, you should take a jar, add your gypsum, and some hot water, stir it around real good, let it soak for 5 mins, stir real good again, let it soak another 5 mins, then add it to the soak pot with your wbs.

If you are using the powder gypsum that isn't necessary.

Sorry for all the nonsense, to answer your question, if it is just a little bit of gypsum, no biggie, if it was all the gypsum you added, you might want to add some more and stir it all around real good, although at this point it won't make much of a difference.

Burning gypsum to the bottom is also why I use a full cup of gypsum in my soak :thumbup:


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18443826 - 06/19/13 06:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No, the extra gypsum on the bottom is totally normal OP :thumbup:


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18444068 - 06/19/13 07:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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No, the extra gypsum on the bottom is totally normal OP :thumbup:





What does OP mean? and i thought fast in a panic lol and decided to rinse my WBS thoroughly cuz in all the teks i read it said to just make sure there was no drip through the colander after you let it soak for a while. And I feel like its going to take longer that i think it shall.

http://www.shroomery.org/9032/6T-WBS-Tek-Wild-Bird-Seed-Bulk-Spawn-Preparation-Method

doesnt say to bring it to a simmer/boil, but it was already hot seed when i washed it and im letting it soak now, thats the only reason i washed it is cuz of 6T's tek, but i was always following franks and TL'

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444091 - 06/19/13 07:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: cronicr]
    #18444122 - 06/19/13 07:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I dont know if rinsing it like i did was the right thing to do..

The WBS seems very wet after 45mins almost. And its not really dripping anymore but is still wet, i only have a few small strainers. and im not if its the colander thats not helping the water get out

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444203 - 06/19/13 08:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont know if rinsing it like i did was the right thing to do..

The WBS seems very wet after 45mins almost. And its not really dripping anymore but is still wet, i only have a few small strainers. and im not if its the colander thats not helping the water get out





I'd say never rinse after a boil. The purpose of steam drying is because it dries the outside of the grain quickly. I haven't ever rinsed my grains after boil so I can't help you out. Maybe you could stick them back in the pot with water, heat it up to 200F then dump em out and steam dry... Just an idea.


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: ganjfather]
    #18444232 - 06/19/13 08:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

do you think that would affect the moisture content or the gypsum that i put in there and all that?

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444257 - 06/19/13 08:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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do you think that would affect the moisture content or the gypsum that i put in there and all that?





Moisture content, probably, but if you can't dry the grains without steaming them, if anything, you would have a lower moisture content.

I don't see why it would ruin the gypsum, unless you burned more of it.


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: ganjfather]
    #18444268 - 06/19/13 08:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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do you think that would affect the moisture content or the gypsum that i put in there and all that?





Moisture content, probably, but if you can't dry the grains without steaming them, if anything, you would have a lower moisture content.

I don't see why it would ruin the gypsum, unless you burned more of it.





Well im stuck. do i put them in a pot with a little more gypsum and stir it up til a simmer and then stem dry them? orrrrr start all over.

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444349 - 06/19/13 08:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's really up to you. If you can't dry the grains without steam (i'm not sure I have never tried)... then I would heat them back up. No need to add more gypsum, it won't really do anything adding it in after the soak. Gypsum needs to be added in before soak.

I wouldn't toss them, it can be saved somehow... maybe if  you have  a hair dryer you could dry them without reheating.


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: ganjfather]
    #18444371 - 06/19/13 08:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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It's really up to you. If you can't dry the grains without steam (i'm not sure I have never tried)... then I would heat them back up. No need to add more gypsum, it won't really do anything adding it in after the soak. Gypsum needs to be added in before soak.

I wouldn't toss them, it can be saved somehow... maybe if  you have  a hair dryer you could dry them without reheating.





Possibly put them into a pot and then back into the strainer and toss them and every so oftern for another hour or so just keep agitating them over and over and then bring a hairdresser across them,

I assume the paper towl test would be my way of knowing theyre done? by putting a sample of the WBS on a paper towl and check it in 5 mins and if it is wet underneath its not done?

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444406 - 06/19/13 08:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ya thats a good test, but a piece of toilet paper would be better.


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: ganjfather]
    #18444507 - 06/19/13 08:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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ya thats a good test, but a piece of toilet paper would be better.




Whats the difference?

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444523 - 06/19/13 09:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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ya thats a good test, but a piece of toilet paper would be better.




Whats the difference?





Also now that i think of it, maybe rubbing it with a paper towel a little could take some of the moisture out of it? i just bought a new roll literally 30mins ago, should be pretty clean? either way the PC will sterilze?

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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: NecroMyce]
    #18444587 - 06/19/13 09:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Just let it air dry.. the difference is that toilet paper is thinner than a paper towel so it will whick the moisture up better.


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Re: WBS PROBLEM [Re: ganjfather]
    #18444660 - 06/19/13 09:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Just let it air dry.. the difference is that toilet paper is thinner than a paper towel so it will whick the moisture up better.





i feel like im freaking out about a step that is very important but not hard to do. im just going to let it air dry til on the dryer side. Im just hoping that the coffee and gypsum i added AND soaked off isnt a problem. I've noticed other ways where people pre boil the water then just add the grain. and dont add anything else. seems kinda weird.

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