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PussyFart
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18395774 - 06/10/13 03:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do it then...but there will be no big difference in yield vs fruiting them as cakes.
Might as well just fruit them as cakes if your not spawning to a bulk substrate.
But that's just
Try casing a few of them, and fruiting a few of them...mix it up and experience both ways.
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18395776 - 06/10/13 03:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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The biggest motivating factor for doing a casing layer besides having tiny cakes is that I bought a 10 lb huge bag of peat moss.
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18395781 - 06/10/13 03:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gotcha. thanks a lot for the help and advice
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18400710 - 06/11/13 12:22 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help guys, and no worries about the other discussion, as long as it's constructive I don't care what goes into my threads.
For some reason (must have read it somewhere) I was under the impression that it's beneficial to have many cakes in the fruiting chamber, and in close proximity to one another, to help keep the rH up. But when I think about it the logic doesn't hold up. If we're doing everything we can to keep the cakes moist, and they're absorbing the ambient humidity in the chamber, how would putting more cakes in there, and especially in close proximity to one another, do anything but lessen the humidity available to each cake? So anyway, I'm gonna give it till the 15th then dunk and roll the first 6 at the same time just to make it easier to keep track of them, the next 3 will come about a week later hopefully, and I guess the verdict is out on the last 2. Thanks again for the advice everyone. Btw, some of these jars are starting to show a lot of pins, just want to confirm that they can go another 4 days without any problems.
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Oh yeah, also a specific question about dunking. The chlorine content in my tap water has gone up lately for some reason, enough to fuck up some of my plants for a couple weeks until I figured it out, so is it safe for rinsing and dunking, or should I use distilled water?
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It is really hard to say unless you tested all the levels of your tap water and all that. I always use tap water and have no problems with it at all. If you feel it will be a problem use bottled water.
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18401059 - 06/11/13 01:20 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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My concern with birthing a partially colonized cake would be that the grains that are not colonized are high in nutrient value and highly subject to contamination. They might contaminate before the mushroom mycelium has a chance to take over. Best to leave it in the jar I think. I am new to this myself so you'll want an expert to verify that.
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: invitro]
#18402218 - 06/11/13 09:53 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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invitro said: My concern with birthing a partially colonized cake would be that the grains that are not colonized are high in nutrient value and highly subject to contamination. They might contaminate before the mushroom mycelium has a chance to take over. Best to leave it in the jar I think. I am new to this myself so you'll want an expert to verify that.

If for some odd reason you would birth a cake that is not fully colonized, cut off the area that is uncolonized first.
I would never recommend birthing a cake that isn't ready, however.
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: invitro]
#18402334 - 06/11/13 10:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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invitro said: My concern with birthing a partially colonized cake would be that the grains that are not colonized are high in nutrient value and highly subject to contamination. They might contaminate before the mushroom mycelium has a chance to take over. Best to leave it in the jar I think. I am new to this myself so you'll want an expert to verify that.

exactly this, but most of the time when something isn't colonized it's already contamed
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: ganjfather]
#18409152 - 06/12/13 03:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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ganjfather said: It is really hard to say unless you tested all the levels of your tap water and all that. I always use tap water and have no problems with it at all. If you feel it will be a problem use bottled water.
I'll probably just leave some water out for 24 hrs and let the chlorine dissipate.
As far as the other jars, they may have contaminated but I see no signs other than slowed growth, I think maybe I packed in the substrate too loosely, I wanted to make sure I didn't pack it in too tight so I probably overcompensated. I'll keep a close eye on those 2.
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TalesfromtheTrypt said: The chlorine content in my tap water has gone up lately for some reason, enough to fuck up some of my plants for a couple weeks until I figured it out, so is it safe for rinsing and dunking, or should I use distilled water?
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TalesfromtheTrypt said: I'll probably just leave some water out for 24 hrs and let the chlorine dissipate.
I used to live in Chicago, where they bleach the fuck out of the water supply, to the point where my kitchen smelled like a public pool sometimes.
I used tap water for everything in this hobby, with 0 issues.
No need to let the water sit out, just use it.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Edited by PussyFart (07/14/13 02:14 AM)
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Re: Trying to get the timing right... advice? [Re: PussyFart]
#18409992 - 06/12/13 06:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reassurance man, it's funny you say that because I first figured out the problem when I flushed the toilet and it smelled just like a damn swimming pool.
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So I started the dunk and roll today for the first 6 jars, I found this first, which was both reassuring and delicious

But the 6th jar looked like this

It's got pins all over the place, but that verm layer doesn't look good to me. Can someone confirm that that's contam?
Edit: Posting this is Contamination forum just because I need to know whether or not to dunk asap.
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Turns out I have no contams, birthed the first 6, here's one of the 3 that are consolidating, one end of this cake colonized way faster than the other side, and then this happened. Now that's a thing of beauty.
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Edited by TalesfromtheTrypt (06/19/13 03:34 PM)
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Also, my first pins in the FC

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