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LuCiDninja
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New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows?
#18435876 - 06/18/13 08:41 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Came up with this idea while tripping, so happy that I don't have to grow indoors now, I can save money on electricity, and its always less sketchy to grow outdoors. Not to mention fungus seems to be flourishing this year. Anyways, I devise :
6-8qt wbs spawn 1.5 brick coir 4quarts verm

Spawned into 41 qt sterlite tub. Lid closed. take tub outside. find perfect location for tub. must be discreet, try and make it a shady area so it gets indirect light, yet doesnt dry out. Mother natures constant FAE will help tremendously.
Dig out a hole that perfectly fits the size of your tub, dont make a mess, your going to be patching this hole up and waiting 10-14 days for full colonization. Come back when fully colonized, uncover the whole tub and lift the lid off. You just introduced a humungous fully colonized block into fruiting mode, outside. As long as no contams enter, i predict bigger yields than what I get from growing indoors, and in less time due to natures dew, and FAE.
Anyone agree or disagree? I think this is a great idea and people should try this outdoor strategy!
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Tmethyl
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: LuCiDninja]
#18435895 - 06/18/13 08:50 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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It will definitely work and produce large healthy mushrooms, if, you live in the SE united states or Texas or somewhere near the equator.
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Tangich


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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: LuCiDninja]
#18435944 - 06/18/13 09:20 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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The tub is unnecessary, you can just dig a hole in the ground and throw fully colonized substrate in it. Cubensis is very adaptable and will grow anywhere in the summer, but the mycelium will survive the winter only in subtropical areas. Humidity is the only concern, a low bush and a shaded area might help keep it high enough for fruits to grow.
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: Tangich]
#18436015 - 06/18/13 09:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: It will definitely work and produce large healthy mushrooms, if, you live in the SE united states or Texas or somewhere near the equator.
They'll grow well in the summer months just about anywhere in the continental US. (Pics from northern midwest)
  
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Tangich said: The tub is unnecessary, you can just dig a hole in the ground and throw fully colonized substrate in it. Cubensis is very adaptable and will grow anywhere in the summer, but the mycelium will survive the winter only in subtropical areas. Humidity is the only concern, a low bush and a shaded area might help keep it high enough for fruits to grow.
I'd never put anything directly into the ground anymore. It's asking for wildlife and slugs etc., to mess with it. If anything I'd at least lay down some bug out cloth, it's like a layer of burlap like materiel. It'll create a barrier that will prevent bugs from eating the hell out of it.
Otherwise you'll see stuff like this.

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36fuckin5
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#18436156 - 06/18/13 10:27 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it does need to be in the ground to benefit from the natural microbes in the soil. I always used weed blocker fabric as my base outside. It's probably the same stuff (or similar to) as what you're suggesting for bug cloth.
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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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LuCiDninja
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18436472 - 06/18/13 11:39 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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It won't contaminate from the foreign soils? I was thinking about putting a mesh screen around the top to keep animals and other nuisances away. Hopefully I can get a big yield ! My best yield ever was 8 oz dry of penis envy indoors. Can't seem to get numbers like that anymore, and tired of wasting supplies/ electricity, which is why I want to try going outside and see if Mother Nature can help me out at all with that.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: LuCiDninja]
#18436674 - 06/18/13 12:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Put it in the ground. You'd be amazed at their resilience.
For example, I recently tilled into my garden 100 spent substrates (many full of contams) that had been sitting in storage in closed trash bags for anywhere from three weeks to one year.
I have been finding mushrooms almost every day, esp when it rains. And I certainly don't live in a region that has high humidity outside on the regular.
Here's my thread if you'd like to see what even a shitty set up outdoor bed will do.
I don't have much experience with properly set up outdoor beds but many others around here can help with specifics.
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LuCiDninja
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18437058 - 06/18/13 01:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: Put it in the ground. You'd be amazed at their resilience.
For example, I recently tilled into my garden 100 spent substrates (many full of contams) that had been sitting in storage in closed trash bags for anywhere from three weeks to one year.
I have been finding mushrooms almost every day, esp when it rains. And I certainly don't live in a region that has high humidity outside on the regular.
Here's my thread if you'd like to see what even a shitty set up outdoor bed will do.
I don't have much experience with properly set up outdoor beds but many others around here can help with specifics.
thanks for your help, frank!
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: LuCiDninja]
#18437092 - 06/18/13 01:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wouldn't expect bigger yields then indoors grows, we have much more control indoors. you don't want it in the tub because you want good drainage when you hose it down
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: cronicr]
#18437500 - 06/18/13 03:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone else had problems with mice or rats from doing this!!?? They are going nuts for grain spawn up here!! I may have started a bad problem here in my yard!! I have to have stuff in pots with protection from them getting in and eating like crazy! But the fuckers are here now and in the compost which I've had to get rid of too now.
Seriously consider where you are and what kinda vermin you may be attracting. I'm pissed , they are up in my greenhouse as well.
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18437819 - 06/18/13 04:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said:
For example, I recently tilled into my garden 100 spent substrates (many full of contams) that had been sitting in storage in closed trash bags for anywhere from three weeks to one year.
I don't have much experience with properly set up outdoor beds but many others around here can help with specifics.
after 100 subs i wouldn't be worried much about a little outdoor grow either
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: cronicr]
#18441596 - 06/19/13 09:57 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: Has anyone else had problems with mice or rats from doing this!!?? They are going nuts for grain spawn up here!! I may have started a bad problem here in my yard!! I have to have stuff in pots with protection from them getting in and eating like crazy! But the fuckers are here now and in the compost which I've had to get rid of too now.
Seriously consider where you are and what kinda vermin you may be attracting. I'm pissed , they are up in my greenhouse as well.
I had a similar problem, I used bricks to fortify the grow spot.
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cronicr said: i wouldn't expect bigger yields then indoors grows, we have much more control indoors. you don't want it in the tub because you want good drainage when you hose it down
While it's true we do get more control growing indoors, outdoor grows can and will yield the largest fruits. I recall having a patch years ago that wasn't doing so hot, maybe produced one or two thumb size fruits. I forgot about it for a while, then we had this tremendous downpour.
Many basements in the area were flooded and lawns were lakes for days. The humidity was hell. After things began to dry up a bit I noticed that your typical lawn variety mushrooms were popping up in great numbers. I checked out my patch (that had been submerged for days) to see these gargantuan cubes. I'm talking the largest one dried, probably would have weighed around an oz.
The only cube I've seen larger than the one in my patch is hippiechick's monster. Unfortunately I didn't check the patch soon enough, the mushrooms were really weathered and bug eaten. Worse yet I didn't have a camera at the time. I kick my self to this day for not taking a picture.
If your goal was to grow as much weight as possible, outdoors would be the best option (assuming you had the land for it) in nearly every way. The cost to set it up would be cheaper than an indoor grow, the physical work you put in would be less, and the maintenance (forget about a monotub, an outdoor grow is the true neglect tek).
(Paul Stamets explains how to set up an enormous outdoor grow like what I'm talking about in this psychedelic conference from 2000. Its a good watch, definitely worth checking out.)
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trip352
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#18441658 - 06/19/13 10:14 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have swarms of Rollie pollie bugs..... That's been my only issue
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toxetel
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Re: New innovative tek for LEGAL outdoor grows? [Re: LuCiDninja]
#18441719 - 06/19/13 10:35 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is the idea that this would be "legal" because they would appear to be wild mushrooms?
Incidentally, you can deter slugs by laying something made of copper around your grow (garden stores actually sell copper tape for this purpose). They don't like to cross copper. Or put a saucer full of beer out -- they'll go into it and drown.
Of course, doing something like that would make it no longer look like a wild patch of mushrooms.
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