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first time a.k.a i need advice
    #18440920 - 06/19/13 04:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I want to start growing but I'm unsure at what point i needed to begin. I was wondering what would be the best for me. I want to do it right and i was thinking of just get pre sterilized jars our packed with four oz if substrate instead of doing the whole process with the jars myself. Is this a good idea for beginners or for general growers all together. Or should i just not skip the steps. I plan on making a small terrarium that cab house maybe 24 cakes and all the other necessary steps. But it's a mixture of laziness and the urge to get it done right the first yield. Also, from experience, how big was y'all's first yield. my brother in law did the whole shabang buying jars, pressure cooker, tote container, substrate, spores and everything else and he has aspergers so his attention to detail is immaculate. Yet, he lost cakes to myselium contamination and too much substrate and breakage if cakes. So again, should i buy the pre sterilized packed jars. Thank you for your input and if i broke any rules i do apologize.

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: beezington]
    #18440977 - 06/19/13 05:20 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You are asking a lot of questions, so i'm a bit confused as to which ones to answer, but i'll try..
Im a bit of a nub too, but i recommend buying a reputable print off a reputable vendor (I'm sure there are vendors round here?)
Then going somewhere where it's legal to agar/spawn it.
Using BRF (brown rice flour) cakes on a Psilocybe Cubensis strain is the easiet.
You'll need sterilised jars, and some know how: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek

*I think i can link that vid, it helped me, i hope it helps you too!

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: beezington]
    #18440980 - 06/19/13 05:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

links in my signiture to the pf tek, both in videos and forum post. Start there.

watch rogerrabbit and roadkills videos. you cant go wrong with the pf tek if you follow the video series.

you could buy pre sterilised jars, but you have to wait for your jars been sent to you, and its not that hard to do it yourself.

you mix up substrate, load it into jars , sterilise it. wait to cool and inoculate in a still air box.

getting them presterilised just cuts out the jar prep and sterilisation, and imo has no effect on success. You cant really mess up the prep and sterilisation i fyou follow the tek.


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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18440990 - 06/19/13 05:27 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys/gals. Im not looking for large yields, just enough for weekly or bi weekly "vacations". I'll start p.m-ing anyone as i move along in the process if acceptable. Any input is really appreciated.

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: beezington]
    #18441055 - 06/19/13 06:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Just follow the standard pf tek. Dont start until you understand what all the steps of the process are. Although I bought pre sterilized jars my first time, its cheaper and better if you do it yourself because if you're serious about the hobby it's a necessity to know how. Its not as hard as it seems once it' broken down.


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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: Jackthetripper7]
    #18441893 - 06/19/13 11:21 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Use the standard PF TEK.

And don't just start PMing people who you think are good at growing. That gets annoying, and it only helps you.

If you have a question, first search the board, cause it's probably been answered a million times. Then if you really can't find it (and you have to search for more than 2 minutes, and go past the first page) make a thread so that everyone can benefit from your question.


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These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #18450294 - 06/21/13 01:36 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

As a newbie should i use LC or syringes

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: beezington]
    #18450296 - 06/21/13 01:37 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

As a noob, you should steer away from LCs, and research agar and grain to grain transfers.

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: beezington]
    #18450321 - 06/21/13 01:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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beezington said:
As a newbie should i use LC or syringes




LCs have kind of gone out of style for almost everybody.  Not a lot of people recommend them these days, so don't think of NAH's advice as newb-specific.


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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: Psilicon]
    #18450326 - 06/21/13 01:55 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Noobs, specifically, should steer away from LCs.

Noobs, specifically, should research agar and grain to grain transfers.

My advice was purely "noob specific".

What would you recommend for noobs?

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450362 - 06/21/13 02:11 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I agree that newbs should research agar and G2G.  I do not agree that this is specific to newbs, as the advantages of LC are really only noticeable in fringe applications.  My own experiences with it have been less than stellar, compared even to MS.


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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: Psilicon]
    #18450379 - 06/21/13 02:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

So what's your point?

Sorry, just a bit confused is all.

It seems that you and I both agree that LCs suck, this is why I say to everyone to steer away from them.

You are right tho, this is not advice just for noobs, it is for everyone...but most helpful to noobs who are looking to start on the right path to success.

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450389 - 06/21/13 02:23 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Just a point of clarification.  We're in complete agreement.  :smile:

LCs suck for everyone, so once this newb (and others who read this) have mastered G2G and agar, I hope they feel no need to move on to LCs unless they want to feel newblike wonder about why their grain stalls at 30% and smells like a corpse's feet.


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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: Psilicon]
    #18450402 - 06/21/13 02:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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LCs suck for everyone, so once this newb (and others who read this) have mastered G2G and agar, I hope they feel no need to move on to LCs unless they want to feel newblike wonder about why their grain stalls at 30% and smells like a corpse's feet.



And I completely agree....

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: PussyFart]
    #18450439 - 06/21/13 02:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

for cubes and noobs i couldn't agree more, i myself have been playing with more exotics which have weaker mycelium and lc just may be a good solution, just throwing it out there lol


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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: cronicr]
    #18454155 - 06/21/13 10:19 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

As i read those, "noob" quickly sounded like a derogatory term. So G2G research will commence now that it's bedtime. Ya know, the best time for research... Thanks y'all.

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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: cronicr]
    #18454496 - 06/22/13 12:01 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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for cubes and noobs i couldn't agree more, i myself have been playing with more exotics which have weaker mycelium and lc just may be a good solution, just throwing it out there lol






would it be possible to start a LC from a clean agar wedge, or is that just a waste of time?


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Re: first time a.k.a i need advice [Re: vanislandshroomer]
    #18454510 - 06/22/13 12:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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would it be possible to start a LC from a clean agar wedge, or is that just a waste of time?



That would be the best way to start an LC.

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