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OfflineBloodKil
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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18414742 - 06/13/13 05:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I completely agree..  your batch will flourish, but it will likely flourish with bacteria/mold and not the mushroom mycelium you are hoping for.

I would say that just about anyone who does a fair amount of research will have an extremely high success rate on their first grow.  I'm not sure that watching a YouTube video would put you in that category though... 

Your best bet as stated above would be to follow the pf tek links provided above to a t.  (If your actually willing to invest the time to learn, I would even say skip doing pf tek, and just go bulk, but quite honestly your current situations shows you do not invest the time needed before jumping into a venture)

I'm not trying to be overly harsh with what I am saying, but found myself cringing about every step of the way in your OP.  This site is filled with lots of use full information, I suggest reading up here, and down rating the YouTube video if you really did follow its procedure.  (Out in the woods on my mobile right now..  signal sucks way to bad to try to watch it)

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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: BloodKil]
    #18415099 - 06/13/13 06:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have considered that, but we will see. I don't think it will flourish with a massive amount of bacteria/ mold. Well your just basing that on what I've said. I researched for about a month before I actually received my Syringe, and didn't stumble upon this wealth of information until I already inoculated. According to the video I watched and from what I have researched well above what is required to jump into something, and I think you are somewhat out of line for saying that. I mean as the OP of the video states; Mushroom growing has been working for thousands of years, and their are fool proof strategies out there now a days, those old methods still work. Only time will tell, but I still have a good feeling about it.


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18415443 - 06/13/13 07:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

First off what was I supposed to base what I said off of?  If not what you typed here I'm at a loss.

As far as being out of line, well to be honest your entire procedure from a casserole dish pf tek, (:lmafo:) your bad attempt to sterilize in the oven, the "professional grade vermiculite" (wut?) to what sounds like an all around poor sanitary procedure, darkness, wiping with alcohol pads, lizard heating masks, not knowing if mycelium needs ge, etc... etc... etc...  All are either way outdated or simple bs...  I honestly thought I had put it in a way before that was not overly harsh, but would still get you to do some actually reading instead following a YouTube video that was either crap or you followed poorly (as I said I have not seen it, but forget what you  know and start relearning)


As to doing a month of research prior to getting your syringe...

I'm sorry but  :bsflag:  I was looking around to see if there had been any advancement on indoor growth of morels a few months back and after a couple of seconds on Google was sitting here..  I cannot for one second believe a month of searching (for shrooms none the less) and you were not led to this site somewhere along the way.

As a fun little experiment to see how far off the normal you could go and see if by chance something grows, this does the sound too bad...  For your first attempt at growing, you will likely just find yourself pissed in a week or two.

By all means though, please do drop some pictures by in a couple weeks and show us how this has worked out for you.

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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: BloodKil]
    #18415761 - 06/13/13 08:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

alright, tldr minus the first line.. but your out of line saying I didn't do my research


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Re: First Grow Questions! *DELETED* [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18416134 - 06/13/13 09:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Razzldazzle]
    #18418123 - 06/14/13 09:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

it aint over yet :smile:


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434000 - 06/17/13 09:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)




Mycelium? or build up of brown rice flour? :laugh:


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434437 - 06/17/13 10:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

that looks contaminated


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: cronicr]
    #18434455 - 06/17/13 10:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

from what I can see it looks like mycelium


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434461 - 06/17/13 10:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

the first pic looks exactly like cobweb lol


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434475 - 06/17/13 10:36 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

that grey glow isn't really what it is. that's due to the lighting and the blueish hue to the casserole dish. IRL that stuff is plain white!!


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434483 - 06/17/13 10:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

is cobweb good or bad? xD


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434499 - 06/17/13 10:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Gyaradoz said:
is cobweb good or bad? xD




its a matter of perspective really.

I like mold sometimes :thumbup: cobweb is mold lol


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434521 - 06/17/13 10:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

oh yea, I took off the top layer of tin foil after learning that that will cause the dry verm layer to moisten up and become contam. There was a ton of moisture even on the tin foil and the top of the layer of verm had mold patches, but only around the areas where the holes were on the tinfoil. That gives me a lot of reason to believe that the whole substrate was sterilized by my oven cooking!! good sign for the inside of the substrate :smile: I dug out a very minor layer of the dry verm layer with a hand soap cleaned metal spoon and scooped off the extremely small and superficial spots of mold. As I was doing that I dug into and hit a white-ish off white-ish patch which felt exactly like hitting clay when your digging in a sandbox. It was kind of like dried gum you would step on while walking around a high school or something. If that gives any analysis. I then proceded to put another layer of dry verm ontop of the verm I already had on there.


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434531 - 06/17/13 10:46 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This just keeps getting better...

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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: BloodKil]
    #18434542 - 06/17/13 10:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

would that patch of gummy white be the consistency of a patch of mycelium?


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434546 - 06/17/13 10:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

don't take this the wrong way but reading this thread is like reading a horror story lol we will call this horror story the mycology murder mystery:thumbup:

in the end what killed the substrate? could it have been the torturing pasteurization that did him in?

or was it the soapy un sterilized spoon scraping off the mold?

this is a case for the infamous Sherlock holmes.:blewmeanie:


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: kinkaku]
    #18434555 - 06/17/13 10:52 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I mean I still know theres mycelium in there I can feel it the vibe is strong. So I guess I will find another shroom site lol.. thanks guys!


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434566 - 06/17/13 10:54 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

and just so you know I didn't inoculate with spores until after I cooked in the oven so I don't really see that can be torturing pasteurization as a pressure cooker gets around the same temp. Maybe you guys haven't explained that...? I feel a lot of your guy's reasoning is based of assumptions, or miss communication. Or both


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Re: First Grow Questions! [Re: Gyaradoz]
    #18434575 - 06/17/13 10:55 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If I had a huge block of White Mycelium that grew mushrooms, would you still be like NOPE MOLD, fuckin noob.


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