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Brontupisto
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18425303 - 06/15/13 10:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey again guys, I still can't find any jars for a reasonable price. Do you think it'd be worth doing WBS --> Bulk? How does it compare in difficulty to PF-Tek? I can either spend $45 on canning jars or about $30 on normal jars, WBS and coco coir. So yeah, what should I do? Obviously bulk would give me a greater yield, but the only thing is how hard it is to keep it sterile and such.
One more thing, what volume is one brick of coco coir? They sell it in huge blocks in Australia, as opposed to bricks.
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18425605 - 06/15/13 11:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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1 Brick of coir is equal to 650g dry, and expands to about 8 quarts when hydrated.
The big blocks your talking about are most likely 5kg blocks, meaning 8 or 9 bricks worth compressed together.
Bulk is essentially the same thing as PF-Tek, with just one added step.(spawning)
Yes, I think it would be worth doing.
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#18425951 - 06/16/13 01:09 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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So what's the best way of doing bulk? Monotub looks pretty solid to me, but if I get a contamination it's a whole heap of substrate and spawn gone. Is casing BRF cakes a good way to bulk grow?
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18425956 - 06/16/13 01:11 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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monotubs........
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18425958 - 06/16/13 01:12 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Casing crumbled up cakes is not bulk growing.
You would get basically the same yield as fruiting them as cakes.
Spawning to bulk will expand the mycellial network, allowing for more moisture and surface area.
If your cakes are fully colonized, and the substrate is properly pasteurized, there is little risk.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Brontupisto
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#18425986 - 06/16/13 01:23 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Monotub it is, then. Would I be able to fill a few of these with substrate as little monotubs and then put them in my FC? My intended FC is huge so putting substrate directly inside would be really inefficient.
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18425995 - 06/16/13 01:27 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your intended FC should be a monotub.
You could use trays in a SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), but then you lose the best aspect of a monotub, "set and forget".
In a SGFC you would have to manually mist/fan it out multiple times a day.
In a monotub you Dial It In, set a fan on oscillate in the room, and forget about it.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#18426044 - 06/16/13 01:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said: Your intended FC should be a monotub.
You could use trays in a SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), but then you lose the best aspect of a monotub, "set and forget".
In a SGFC you would have to manually mist/fan it out multiple times a day.
In a monotub you Dial It In, set a fan on oscillate in the room, and forget about it.
Alright, looks good. So basically my process is going to be this:
- Prepare WBS jars and sterilize
- inoculate jars and incubate, shake regularly
- Prepare monotub with garbage bag/holes/polyfill/etc
- Prepare bulk substrate of verm/coco coir(?)
- Spawn WBS into substrate inside monotub
- Wait until colonized
- Initiate fruiting
Correct? Sorry for all the questions, I just really want to get this right haha.
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18426082 - 06/16/13 02:10 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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You do not shake the jars regularly, just shake them once, when they are like 20-30%.
The tub will have tape covering all the holes when you spawn the tub.
The polyfill is only needed when you put it in fruiting conditions.
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SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Brontupisto
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#18426121 - 06/16/13 02:36 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Micropore tape?
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Brontupisto
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18426122 - 06/16/13 02:38 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh, and where do the holes go on the monotub?
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18426129 - 06/16/13 02:43 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, non breathable tape.
I use clear packing tape, but duck tape works as well.
Usually 2 on each long side at substrate level, and 1 on each short side, top center.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Brontupisto
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#18426136 - 06/16/13 02:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright, I think I'm ready now. Thanks a heap, dude.
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Brontupisto
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Re: Nearly ready for my first grow! [Re: Brontupisto]
#18429259 - 06/16/13 07:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Would a USB powered computer fan suffice as a fan for a monotub?
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