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Advice please.
    #18424964 - 06/15/13 08:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, so let me start this off by saying I have put in a lot of effort reading and doing my own research, and all of this info is kinda hard to digest and I have read so much of it that I tend to mix some of it up with other stuff..

well for starters, I just ordered 2 syringes of GT and I am in the process of buying all the other odds and ends for this project. I am going to inoculate roughly 12-20 pf cakes (is this a bad idea?)the reason I am choosing to do so many at once, because I understand the cake method yields significantly less than other methods. I also understand that pf cakes are the best place to start for a beginner, so that is why I am choosing to do a large amount of of cakes.

I have watched the the 'lets grow mushrooms' video about 4 times now.  I have also read and read and read this site constantly haha

I am just worried that I am going to screw something up. I am really good at following directions, but if it wasnt for bad luck, I wouldnt have any luck at all if you get where I am coming from..

I just need some advice and pointers for a first time grow.

I will give you a rundown of my plans
-First I am going to make my jars and sterilize them per the TEK.
-I am going to make a SAB to inoculate them (any advice here?)
-I was originally going to make a TIT incubator, but many people suggested that its not necessary and leave more opportunity for contams, so I will just let them colonize in room temp like everyone suggested.
-Now here is where some questions arise, when fruiting my cakes I want them to be in room temp correct? and is a light required? or just suggested?  and the humidity is going to be my main concern for fruiting if I can keep the temps from fluctuating too much, right?

well thats all my concerns for now..

if you have any suggestions for me please feel free to let me know.
keep in mind this is going to be a first grow and I am still learning a lot of the terminology and all that jazz..

thank you :smile:

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Re: Advice please. [Re: AYSEONE]
    #18426215 - 06/16/13 03:35 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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AYSEONE said:
well for starters, I just ordered 2 syringes of GT and I am in the process of buying all the other odds and ends for this project. I am going to inoculate roughly 12-20 pf cakes (is this a bad idea?)the reason I am choosing to do so many at once, because I understand the cake method yields significantly less than other methods. I also understand that pf cakes are the best place to start for a beginner, so that is why I am choosing to do a large amount of of cakes



It's not a bad idea at all, spores are potent, and it only takes a few drops per hole...make them last....You sound like your on the right track so far.

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when fruiting my cakes I want them to be in room temp correct? and is a light required? or just suggested?



Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.

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and the humidity is going to be my main concern for fruiting if I can keep the temps from fluctuating too much, right?



A temperature fluctuation is fine, just like in nature.

Other than that, you sound pretty much good to go.

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Re: Advice please. [Re: PussyFart]
    #18426269 - 06/16/13 04:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Follow the video series and you will have success. Build your fruiting chamber as per the tek and yoiu wont have to worry about humidity.

dont worry about incubation, cubensis are really not picky. I colinise jars in temps bellow 70f and they all work fine. No need to build an incubator, unless its really cold like below 60f

While you will get pins and fruits even in darkness, its highly recomend you use light in the daylight range for best performance. Fruits grown in bright light in the daylight range grow healthier and bigger than those that are not.

6500k if your not using natural daylight.


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Re: Advice please. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18427196 - 06/16/13 11:24 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

WOW thank you @notahacker420, that was a very thorough reply and you pretty much covered all of my areas of concern :smile:

and thank you @veda_sticks too, short and sweet confirmation.

I guess I am just nervous for to see the results of all this.

However my excitement outweighs my nervousness, I just want to make sure this is we properly executed project.

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