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Easy Felt mono tubs
    #18416763 - 06/13/13 11:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have not been able to find any active threads on this or really any teks other than Barakkas and am looking for advice from those who have experience using easy felt to cover holes in mono tubs VS using polyfil.  I am interested more in ezfelt over polyfil just due to how easy it is to work with vs polyfil.  I have read and been told it is difficult to dial in and am wondering if anyone has any advice on this.  I am thinking about 6-8 possibly 10 2' holes on 66-73quart tubs.  4 at sub level on the long sides, one up top on each end.  thinking about adding one in the middle maybe 2/3-3/4 up the side on the long sides and on a sub lvl on the ends.  Thoughts/suggestions/advice WELCOME and appreciated.  :cheers:

UPDATE:Just thought I would post an update here, this wasn't really a "log" per se but in the interest of not posting another thread I am gonna post updates here.  So the easyfelt tub fruited a full week before all the other ones.  I tried one piece overnight and it started pining as it allowed the tub to get way too dry.  So I added one more piece, still too dry, and one more piece, gluing them on, and it was JUST about right, SO I got a can of rubber cement, and painted around the edge to further seal the easy felt cap as it has become even tho I already used the silicone glue to do the same, and then I pained about a 3/4 inch ring around the edge of the discs and it is just about perfect. 

I have not needed to mist the whole fruiting run and it has been MUCH easier it seems.  I have another run of 5 tubs coming and I am going to do 2 of them the same way, 3 discs on the bottom and a smidge of polyfil in the top holes, one with one maybe 2 layers of poly on the top.  Also, I am going to try 1 1/2" holes vs the 2" holes I have been using, see if I remove the need for the rubber cement, tho rubber cement is dirt cheap, goes a long way, and the step took all of 5 min to complete, so its not a huge deal either way.  In my opinion if I can get this working right it will be a great process improvement simply as it is "glue 3 3" rings of felt to bottom holes and 1 on the top" vs "stuff poly fill in the holes just right and monitor to make sure it is done properly".  It is probably just my noob opinion but it really just seems easier to do this than try and get poly right.  I have 3 tubs that require near constant attention where the felt tub is rolling right along. 

*pics coming later today*


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18416895 - 06/14/13 12:35 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I am a strong advocate of EZ felt as a filter on jar lids. I always recommend people to use it because it works great and is inexpensive.

However, for monotubs, EZ felt sucks. With polyfill you can 'dial in' the humidity that stays in your tub WAY easier, simply by stuffing more in or taking more out. That way you get to choose the thickness of your filter, so if your RH is dropping lower than what you want, just stuff some more polyfil into the hole. With EZ felt, you have 1 thickness, so you really have no control.

Polyfill is also VERY inexpensive and EXTREMELY easy to use.


In short, use EZ felt for GE filters on your jar lids and use polyfill for your monotub holes.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: ganjfather]
    #18417087 - 06/14/13 01:26 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thought about this myself before when looking at the hundred or so little ez felt filters i have laying around....  But I have no monos, so no chance to try it.

It might work great for the top holes which are supposed to be looser anyway...  (maybe start off with a filter on each side, then if needed you can rip one side off?)

Heck you might even eventually get it perfectly dialed in with mtiple  layers rtv'ed to gather on the bottom for a permanent solutions..

But then again :shrug:

I think you might get a lot of negative responses to this thread, but I for one hope you find the opportunity to try it out...  If it works you could save hundreds of growers the tedious task of making puff balls every time they set up a mono. 

And would be able to set up a much better tek for noobs than having to say we'll... you got to use a hand full about this big of poly fill vs you saying... use this many layers of ez felt.  (At least I would assume that it's hard to dial in with poly as everyone will take tight/loose/hand full to mean different things, whereas a certain number of layers would be a constant)

Either way I hope you try it out, and :congrats: if you do.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: BloodKil]
    #18417093 - 06/14/13 01:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i just use what has worked best for me.  and in my opinion there is no way i can improve my flushes and overall happiness of fruits by not using my poly fil from franks tek

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: BloodKil]
    #18417131 - 06/14/13 01:38 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Thought about this myself before when looking at the hundred or so little ez felt filters i have laying around....  But I have no monos, so no chance to try it.

It might work great for the top holes which are supposed to be looser anyway...  (maybe start off with a filter on each side, then if needed you can rip one side off?)

Heck you might even eventually get it perfectly dialed in with mtiple  layers rtv'ed to gather on the bottom for a permanent solutions..

But then again :shrug:

I think you might get a lot of negative responses to this thread, but I for one hope you find the opportunity to try it out...  If it works you could save hundreds of growers the tedious task of making puff balls every time they set up a mono. 

And would be able to set up a much better tek for noobs than having to say we'll... you got to use a hand full about this big of poly fill vs you saying... use this many layers of ez felt.  (At least I would assume that it's hard to dial in with poly as everyone will take tight/loose/hand full to mean different things, whereas a certain number of layers would be a constant)

Either way I hope you try it out, and :congrats: if you do.


  Yes I think you are right, I tried to avoid as much as I could by saying I know its hard to dial in and am just looking for experiences with it and people's opinions who have used it.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18417319 - 06/14/13 02:25 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Idk man polyfil is pretty darn easy to use. It's also cheap and readily available.

Just follow frank's tek it's pretty straight forward.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: Novanity1]
    #18417338 - 06/14/13 02:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have used ez felt on the bottom holes and loss poly fill on the tops holes and liked the results.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: thelanzii]
    #18421342 - 06/14/13 11:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I was going to try at least one.  Going with felt on the bottom holes and loose poly on the top, see how that works.  If needed double up the felt or triple or whatever is needed.  If one layer of ezfelt =loose poly that would be too easy.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18422733 - 06/15/13 10:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Slightly off/on topic, but does anyone run micro-pore tape tubs/buckets?


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: 10KOysters]
    #18422741 - 06/15/13 10:32 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If micropore/EZ Felt tape provided good FAE, we would not use it for GE filters on jars.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18422840 - 06/15/13 11:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I don't remember seeing any jars made with 1-2" holes in the lids either. :smile:

It does breathe, otherwise you wouldn't need to use 2 layers to keep 'all' contams out.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: 10KOysters]
    #18422857 - 06/15/13 11:11 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have never heard of anyone "needing" more than one layer of tape, unless the first one was inoculated thru.

I have heard that applying more than one layer of tape will actually hinder GE tho.

And even if it's spread over a 2" area....I still doubt it will provide sufficient FAE for a tub....this has been tried before.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18423210 - 06/15/13 01:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Depends on your tape, I guess.

I've had contams show directly beneath the ge hole on jars before. One layer of off-brand micro-pore tape.  A layer of tyvek prevents that for now. Planning on switching to sfd's very soon.

Two layers of micro-pore tape are required for 'sterile' ge.  Yes, it does restrict ge when using 2 layers.

Anyone have links to failed tape tub/bucket threads?  Would love to see them.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: 10KOysters]
    #18424399 - 06/15/13 06:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, that is a good point about GE vs FAE, two completely different things.  BUT, I am going to try it on one because now I must know.  Going with felt on the bottome loose poly on top.  I am going to trust in NOTAHACKER, he has give all good advice thus far.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18424420 - 06/15/13 06:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Ok, that is a good point about GE vs FAE, two completely different things.  BUT, I am going to try it on one because now I must know.  Going with felt on the bottome loose poly on top. 



Why not tape on the top holes too?

That is where the tub gets it's FAE from to begin with.

The air is then forced out thru the tighter stuffed holes in the bottom.(in a normal tub)

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18425705 - 06/15/13 11:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You think?  I figured osmosis occurred for the FAE and the tight poly on bottom was to keep up the RH while still allowing air to freely pass (more freely than duct tape).  Hmmmm....I am not going to use micropore tape, I just think that's a bad idea...where is polyfil in relation to ez felt in relation to how much air will pass through you think?  Would one 2" hole covered with felt be comparable to loose poly, or tight poly?  I guess I will find out soon enough but would be nice to have some people who have experimented with it to share their experience with it, rather than people just say it will or wont work.  The topic is looking for people with experience using felt on tubs, what those experiences were, and any suggestions you would have for someone looking into experimenting with it.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18425769 - 06/16/13 12:09 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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You think?  I figured osmosis occurred for the FAE and the tight poly on bottom was to keep up the RH while still allowing air to freely pass (more freely than duct tape).



Humidity rises...

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Would one 2" hole covered with felt be comparable to loose poly, or tight poly?



Extremely tightly stuffed polyfill.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18425908 - 06/16/13 12:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have to disagree hacker...

Ez felt is almost see through (in fact it is see through in some places... 

I would generally think it's more closely associated with loose poly, and you might even have to double layer it to get to that point...

I obviously have no scientific equipment to test this with, but a good way to get a general ideas of how restrictive something can be is to blow something through it.

I loosely rolled and  stuffed some poly into a tp roll, and super glued the perimeter. (As it was falling out by tipping it)  I then did the same with another tp roll and some ez felt.  A can of air (with the red straw thing) was then put to use to get an a general idea.

Now as I said I have no scientific instruments to measure anything exactly like this, but the ez felt definitely felt like more air was passing through it.  (Unfortunately though I now have two tp rolls 5hat wont fit on the reel)

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: BloodKil]
    #18425915 - 06/16/13 12:57 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I have to disagree hacker...

Ez felt is almost see through (in fact it is see through in some places... 



If you can see thru it, then how do people have success using it as a filter on jars?

That makes no sense to me....but I have not used the stuff, so :shrug:

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18425934 - 06/16/13 01:04 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Probably just meant that some amount of light passes through it?

I can see quite a bit of light that passes through my SFDs.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: BloodKil]
    #18425969 - 06/16/13 01:16 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I have to disagree hacker...

Ez felt is almost see through (in fact it is see through in some places... 

I would generally think it's more closely associated with loose poly, and you might even have to double layer it to get to that point...

I obviously have no scientific equipment to test this with, but a good way to get a general ideas of how restrictive something can be is to blow something through it.

I loosely rolled and  stuffed some poly into a tp roll, and super glued the perimeter. (As it was falling out by tipping it)  I then did the same with another tp roll and some ez felt.  A can of air (with the red straw thing) was then put to use to get an a general idea.

Now as I said I have no scientific instruments to measure anything exactly like this, but the ez felt definitely felt like more air was passing through it.  (Unfortunately though I now have two tp rolls 5hat wont fit on the reel)

(Disclaimer...  This is the kind of boredom that being sober leads to...  next fathers day ill just deal with the hangover while grilling.)




EZ felt is not see through at all... Some light can pass through it, but you cannot see through it. If you can, you don't have EZ felt, jus sayin.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18426002 - 06/16/13 01:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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BloodKil said:
I have to disagree hacker...

Ez felt is almost see through (in fact it is see through in some places... 



If you can see thru it, then how do people have success using it as a filter on jars?

That makes no sense to me....but I have not used the stuff, so :shrug:



Yeah bloodkill IDK WTF kind of felt you are using,but mine is 100% uniform as far as I can tell.  Also thats about THE worst test I have ever heard of.  Why would you use tp rolls and not say a cardboard box or say or a throw away tub and put a pinwheel or something on the other side if you are using a compressed air can.  Also I would think air at that velocity would compress the polyfil and change the result.  Needless to say I think all of that is pointless anyway as the air exchange is passive and happens thru osmosis unless you point a fan at the tub (as well as air moved by A/C, people, whatever). 

I wonder if maybe you have a different type of ez felt as mine is EXTREMELY uniform as I said.  Its like poly fil compresses into sheets or woven.  I imagine its made somewhat like paper, could be totally wrong, but regardless I definately cannot see thru it.  Its just like regular felt in the crafts section of hobby lobby, basically synthetic felt, 99 cents a sheet.  Maybe its made like fleece...

Back on topic i think hacker is right, in that it is closer to very tight tho I would imagine tight poly has less change in air currents than a flat sheet of felt just due to the large mass of poly used.  I am going to try ez felt on 4 holes on either long side at sub lvl, and am going to do loose poly in 2 holes 4/5 up on the ends, see how that goes.  I think hacker is also right, in that it does not allow for FAE as much as GE just due to the very tight nature.  I also want to try one with felt all around, and an air pump forcing in air filtered thru poly (run a hose into a jar foll of poly and then a hose out of the lid into the jar, loosely pack poly or a cig filter in the 2 hoses) and see how THAT goes. 

One last thing, why is it I do not case mono Tubs?  I thought you did case mono tubs.  I am also seeing after the first flush.  Is it there is already so much humidity in the tub from the large amount of stuff a casing layer is not needed to raise RH and retain moisture?  Would it still not help as a PH buffer or is it just not worth the effort/ too risky for contamination?


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18426004 - 06/16/13 01:35 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

EZ Felt is just ironed down polyfill.

But like I said, I don't use the stuff.

You guys should try this out, and report back.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18426013 - 06/16/13 01:38 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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EZ Felt is just ironed down polyfill.

But like I said, I don't use the stuff.

You guys should try this out, and report back.



Definitely plan on it.  Hopefully I will have :goodluck: and a tub will nog get wasted, but that's what experiments are for :douchewink:  But yeah that's what I thought it was, Ironed down poly or something along those lines.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18426016 - 06/16/13 01:40 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sry let me reword that...

If you hold it towards a light there are patches you can kinda see the light shine through.

Even with the light patches though it's worked fine for a filter on the jars I have ran so far, except the ones I tried doing a single lid sized filter. (in which case it just dried out the top layer of grains, but even still no contact)  I just think there may be a rh drop when replacing the bottom poly with them, especially if there is only a single layer.

I am quite interested in the results though either way, as if/when I get the chance to play with monos in the future, I would much rather the permanent (and cleaner looking) solution of ez felt w/ rtv.

Edit...  lol by the time I read hackers response and replied I got corrected more than once...

And yes I do have ez felt (cpe to be exact)

Picture for what I mean


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: PussyFart]
    #18426019 - 06/16/13 01:42 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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EZ Felt is just ironed down polyfill.

But like I said, I don't use the stuff.

You guys should try this out, and report back.





I have, it doesn't work, but these guys don't want to listen.

And, you are right, it is much more constricting than loose polyfil, it barely lets any air through. I'd compare it to VERY tightly packed polyfil. Great GE filter, terrible FAE filter. :shrug: I guess people gotta find out the hard way...


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: ganjfather]
    #18426052 - 06/16/13 01:57 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well if you tried it then why didn't you say so in your earlier post ganj?

It's not about nobody listening, but ffs you got to speak up.  Your original post basically reads as if you don't think it will work, but has nothing in it saying you have tried it on a mono..


As to mastablasta...

By all means if you want to spend more than 10 minutes building some elaborate test to find out how restrictive something is going for it.  As far as cardboard boxes ect..  I take mine to be recycled every couple weeks so have none...  By all means though what I did was a pretty fair test for restriction of airflow...  and although it's a bit extreme to use a can of air, it's not as if I could have put my hand at the end of it otherwise and said yep, that sure is restricting the air currants flowing through the room. :shrug:

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: BloodKil]
    #18426113 - 06/16/13 02:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'll make one for my Enoki coming up in about a month (Using micro-pore tape).  I have some nice 2.5gal buckets I could use. :sunny:

If they have long skinny stems, the CO2 will probably be too much for the cubensis you guys mess with.

I'll also do my best to take good pics.  Sucky camera.

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: BloodKil]
    #18426135 - 06/16/13 02:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Well if you tried it then why didn't you say so in your earlier post ganj?

It's not about nobody listening, but ffs you got to speak up.  Your original post basically reads as if you don't think it will work, but has nothing in it saying you have tried it on a mono..






I wouldn't directly tell you the fault in your plan if I had not tried it myself at one time. Re-read my original post, it's plain as day... my reasoning for why it does not work, and yes, I have tried it.

I'll restate, EZ felt makes a great GE filter for lids but it does not work well as FAE filter on tubs. The reasoning - it is too thick.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18426913 - 06/16/13 10:03 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I thought you were just saying you THINK its a bad idea, no idea you were speaking from experience.  And as I said, I just want to experiment, and am gonna use felt on bottom and loose poly on top.  If need be put more holes in it, I want to MAKE it work, not see if it works period.  Were any photos taken?  Did you collect any type of data on you experiment?  that's what I am looking for.

And bloodkill: Yes you are correct it would take more than 10 min.  I wasn't saying actually do it, more just that I don't think compressed air in a TP roll is a GOOD experiment as to the restrictiveness of poly vs felt.  Also I have cardboard boxes coming out of my ears...so....that could bias my opinion on using them for something over a NEW roll of TP.  Want some boxes??  It was a good effort and it did sound like I was pooing on it for no good reason.  I am going to make a monotub felt test thread once I get started, try differing size holes number of holes, W/E, til I get it right and post results for folks to see.  I need to ramp up to more spawn first, so I may not be able to start til mid/late july.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18436282 - 06/18/13 10:55 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Ok so I opened one up and put exfelt over the 6 2" holes in the tub last night, came to it this morning and the walls were ALL dry, so i am guessing it allows a LOT more FAE than poly, gonna add 2 layers to the bottom and maybe one to the top, see how that goes.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18436313 - 06/18/13 11:03 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Like ganjfather I've also tried felt as well as tyvek.

Tyvek will work better than felt.

But they both suck compared to poly, as you're about to discover :wink:

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18436932 - 06/18/13 01:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man.  Yeah I am just experimenting here, so I glued down 2 more discs over the 1 on the bottome 4 holes.  I also noticed there was a fan kinda blowing in the general direction of the tubs that was supposed to be lowing into the middle of the room, AND the corners of the lid bowed up and there was a significant gap around the edges, so i taped it down,  Probably now gonna end up with to little airflow lol, but I will get it eventually.  I do still have to say it is much easier to cut out a circle and glue it to the tub VS poly, but you were 100% on the difficulty of dialing it in.  Hopefully I can get it working.  :cheers:


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18436939 - 06/18/13 01:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

:raisemyglass:

If you have FAE issues, I would try turning the fans up and facing them so they blow near the tubs but not directly at them.

I would also leave the lid a bit loose if you have issues.

Keep us posted :thumbup:

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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18437005 - 06/18/13 01:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I figure if I start to get too little I can just take the tape off the corners, as that seemed to be giving too much FAE when it was colonizing as I had loads of aerial myc forming without 100% colonization (that iss what happens right?)


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #18437011 - 06/18/13 01:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, I figure if I start to get too little I can just take the tape off the corners, as that seemed to be giving too much FAE when it was colonizing as I had loads of aerial myc forming without 100% colonization (that iss what happens right?)




No, no, myc shooting up through your substrate is a good sign. The faster that bad boy colonizes the better.  You need to leave the lid loose for colonizing if your holes are taped up. It needs some GE.


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18441922 - 06/19/13 11:32 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

PINS!!  Whatever is said of the tek, the tub I did it on is the first to get pins.  It has a total of 2 lol, where this morning it had 0.  I swear the second formed as I was lookinf at the first one.  YAYA!!:bearbreakdance: 
EDIT:It only has 2 pins as of yet, this is normal right?  I thought they would show up en mass?  Or is it just as they come they come?


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Re: Easy Felt mono tubs [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #19034072 - 10/26/13 02:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all. I made a 8 x 2" holes in 1 of my mono tubs. I think the surface area is big enough that my tight easy felt might work. My 5 quart jars are almost fully colonized. Did G2G this morning to 4 Pints and 1 Quart. I will also keep you posted on my grow and results on the felt vs poly fill. I have a total of 4 mono tubs that i am  going to do in total in the next week probably. . .  And I am still a noob. . . Ha ha

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