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tko
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couple brf agar ?'s
#18412916 - 06/13/13 10:27 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok so i did the substitute and took a clone,,,blah blah. but iwas wondering a few things. one, does the bottom have to be colonized 100% the top half has been done for a week,is it possible to just scrape off the top portion like flake it off with razor? also it was spur of moment thing n used a half pint jar,will this be awkward trying to cut it? thanks for any input dudes. or girls..lol
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18412946 - 06/13/13 10:37 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's only supposed to be colonized on top. And you're not supposed to let it run to the edge. I'd start over.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18413083 - 06/13/13 11:09 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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can you elaborate a little??
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18413101 - 06/13/13 11:13 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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leaving it run to the edge isnt bad IME. If your trying to isolate then its a different story you want to cut a transfer from the leading edge of the growing mycellium. You can use a colonized plate fine. I personally stay away from the 1/4 inch around the outside of the plate cause this is more likely where contames will fall and stay.
You just cut a wedge and use it to inoc. The mycellium will completely cover the agar once its been cut. Mycellium on agar always grows in 2d.
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PrinceShroom said: leaving it run to the edge isnt bad IME. I personally stay away from the 1/4 inch around the outside of the plate cause this is more likely where contames will fall and stay.
So... you're saying it is bad then. Edge contamination is the problem, which is what you're talking about.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18413265 - 06/13/13 12:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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so just cut straight down till hit glass then cut a wedge out,and the uncolonized portion doesnt cause any harm? also wanted keep culture going and the most rhizos are along the edge so maybe take a few off the edge or are you saying edges=no good? thanks bud and i think he means the plate can be used but try to avoid using the edges..
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18413274 - 06/13/13 12:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edges are no good. That should answer everything you just asked. Yes, cut to the glass, how else would you get a wedge out?
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18413282 - 06/13/13 12:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: It's only supposed to be colonized on top. And you're not supposed to let it run to the edge. I'd start over.
Why cant you let it run to the edge? Im saying dont use the 1/4 inch closest to the edge of the plate cause that is most likely where contam will enter and sit. This I just do to be on the safe side ive used up full dishes before with out contam. Im just trying to err on the side of caution. What I dont get is why your saying that once a plate is colonized its no good and you would start over. I have many many fully colonized plates that I reg use to make up grain masters. Your only concerned about the leading edge if you are trying to get an iso. If you already have one let it fill the plate and cut wedges from it to use anywhere...
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PrinceShroom said: leaving it run to the edge isnt bad IME. If your trying to isolate then its a different story you want to cut a transfer from the leading edge of the growing mycellium.
i know this ain't where you were going with this but just to point it out, brf agar sub sucks balls for trying to isolate, and not that you would want to from a clone tissue anyway
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18413301 - 06/13/13 12:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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tko said: so just cut straight down till hit glass then cut a wedge out
Actually, if it's pure brf agar, you'll want to just scrape some of the mycelia off and transfer that.
The mycelia (at least with my brf agar) doesn't really grow into the brf agar very well at first. Only after it colonizes the entire outer surface do you start to see real penetration of the mycelia.
It scrapes off quite easily.
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PrinceShroom said: Why cant you let it run to the edge?
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Im saying dont use the 1/4 inch closest to the edge of the plate cause that is most likely where contam will enter and sit.
You've answered your own question twice in a row now. Spores can get onto the myc and be transferred. It's also best to use the leading edge because that's the youngest, most vigorous myc you have.
I would start over because it's cheap and easy, and I like things done just right.
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The mycelia (at least with my brf agar) doesn't really grow into the brf agar very well at first. Only after it colonizes the entire outer surface do you start to see real penetration of the mycelia.
It's not supposed to grow into the BRF. It's supposed to be a 2-D media.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18413368 - 06/13/13 12:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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like i said, was in a bind, i heard brf works. so i did it...all i asked was if the uncolonized portion will cause a problem,not asking for an oh id throw it out cause all my shits PERFECT answer.. thanks
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18413385 - 06/13/13 12:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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no the uncolonized stuff won't harm anything as long as your doing your work in a gb or sab
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: cronicr]
#18413432 - 06/13/13 12:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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alright bruh
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: cronicr]
#18413454 - 06/13/13 12:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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PrinceShroom said: leaving it run to the edge isnt bad IME. If your trying to isolate then its a different story you want to cut a transfer from the leading edge of the growing mycellium.
i know this ain't where you were going with this but just to point it out, brf agar sub sucks balls for trying to isolate, and not that you would want to from a clone tissue anyway
BRF fert agar if made properly is the most rhizomorphic agar I have ever seen and ive poured 1000's of plates. I may be ne to shroomery but ive been growing steady for 5 yrs. 3 of those yrs were to large scale. Ive messed around with so many different ways to grow. I have only found one sustainable way to grow to scale. I find pasteurized subs arent worth it. Having to toss out 100's of lbs of used substrate is heat score. The logistics of it all. Ive found you can grow about 5 lbs in one location and then you hit a wall of logistics. To grow more you have to goto a different location and even with rooms set up dedicated to the grow 35-50 tubs is all about that can b handled at one location. I count my success rate for mono's at about 25% Sure I get 8-16 o's from a tub but it always trichs and alot of times ur lucky to gt 4-6 ounces even with a clone or iso. These TC's saying they are pulling off 8 o first flushes regularly I call BS on them. Sure anyone can have a good tub 7-9 o's first flush but its not a regular occurrence. This is known fr alot of experience. Not from just peeking the shrooomery.
I did say that contams are most likely to occur around the edges thats the most open place. So even with a flowhood im still worried about contams getting in. Better be safer than sorry. On the other hand though I have used the edge of plates many many times and rarely see contams.
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yes the brf with agar will be fine for isolating and is much easier to work with, but he just used flour and water
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PrinceShroom said: These TC's saying they are pulling off 8 o first flushes regularly I call BS on them. Sure anyone can have a good tub 7-9 o's first flush but its not a regular occurrence. This is known fr alot of experience. Not from just peeking the shrooomery.
  
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: cronicr]
#18413658 - 06/13/13 01:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: The things some noobs say...lol
ive grown to scale (10+ lbs a month) for 3 years. Ive been growing for over five. The first wk I started growing I did cakes cased rye trays, lc's and to top it off I started my first iso within a wk of starting to grow. I guarantee you that ive done more jars trays monos then you have ever seen. I read the TMC in 83. I have an idea of what I am doing.
IME spawning to pasteurized sub's leads to contams all the time for me. Bucket tek, or proper pasteurization. No matter, contams. I have a hood all my spawn is clean my lc's my syringes. Just whenever i spawn i run into contams. The logistics of doing 5+lbs/month at one location just doesnt work.
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PrinceShroom said: These TC's saying they are pulling off 8 o first flushes regularly I call BS on them. Sure anyone can have a good tub 7-9 o's first flush but its not a regular occurrence. This is known fr alot of experience. Not from just peeking the shrooomery.
   
Im good friends with many TC's on this site. Im not going to mention names but there are TC's here claiming 8 o first flushes and really its 6 and very rare for them to get it. Even with a clone or iso. I know ive tried it too many times. Pound for pound spawned subs dont work out in our benefit. a mono weighs 10-15 lbs and you end up with a half pound dry. Whats the BE on that? Not vry good.
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Thats like 10-15% BE thats ridiculous. Ask a professional button farmer what his BE is. Ill tell you usually around 150-200% Yet people are happy with 10-15
There is a new better way to grow coming up. Its unbelievable. ANy noob with a little agar skills and a pc can do it easy as pie. And if a contam enters your only losing a small portion of your crop not your whole tub.
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pm me when the magic happens
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: cronicr]
#18413736 - 06/13/13 01:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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pm me when the magic happens 
Ill be releasing it in the fall. You think im talking shit but you will see. I have years experience. Some of my best friends are TC's on this site. I know what im doing and wat im talking about. Im just gearing up to show shroomery wats rly good.
Id b farther along but I broke up w my fiancee and she never wanted me growing mushies so im starting fr scratch have to redo all my iso's. Lots of work but it will so be worth it in the end.
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Great, here comes another anne halonium 
I just had five tubs give me 180+ gram first flushes.
I documented a few of them on my clone thread.
And that's in a 66qt mono with just coir/verm/gypsum.
edit: who are all the TCs you know? I don't see a single one acknowledging you in any way, so...I call bullshit 
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i'm just saying you go all out with everything from your agar to your final sub/lights whatever but at the end of the day it's a cube and just not neccesary, grow me some indoor aminita or break some ground on things like psilo cyans or azures and we'll talk. when it comes to mushrooms i'm personally not out for pounds i'm out for the challenge and learning experience, like i said pm when you got it together
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FrankHorrigan said: Great, here comes another anne halonium 
That's exactly what I was thinking.
"Fuck the community and their decades and decades of combined experience and research! I know way better!"
You should keep stuff under wraps till you've got it done, PrinceShroom. Not trying to talk shit, but if you don't have some proof, then this kind of reaction is all you're gonna get.
You say you've done 10+ lbs a month, but you couldn't do that in one location? Why not?
And for the record, I always pull at least 5 oz off my my 58 qt tubs, which have a good bit less surface area than the 66 qt that most people use. And that's with me being lazy. If I check them several times a day, mist, fan, etc I can get 8 oz dry off of it.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18413850 - 06/13/13 02:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great, here comes another anne halonium 
You go around talking shit about anne. You do realize that anne has set the cacti world 80 yrs ahead with her tek. getting lophs from seed to mature in 6-8 months which normally takes 10 yrs. Dont be surprised if she has something equally important to the fungus world too. I wouldnt be surprised. Sorry that you 2 dont gt along no need to go trying to say im another anne. I couldnt fill that womans boots and i highly doubt you could either. How did cn mex fruit for you? Could you get it to fruit? Ive seen 3 grows worth anything from cn mex. Azure/piltzintli, elfstone, and anne. I think got a huge impressive flush of 3 fruits. I heard captain future managed to get them to fruit but again not many. I grew a half ounce in a single flush last summer.
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FrankHorrigan said: Great, here comes another anne halonium 
That's exactly what I was thinking.
"Fuck the community and their decades and decades of combined experience and research! I know way better!"
You should keep stuff under wraps till you've got it done, PrinceShroom. Not trying to talk shit, but if you don't have some proof, then this kind of reaction is all you're gonna get.
You say you've done 10 lbs a month, but you couldn't do that in one location? Why not?
And for the record, I always pull at least 5 oz off my my 58 qt tubs, which have a good bit less surface area than the 66 qt that most people use. And that's with me being lazy. If I check them several times a day, mist, fan, etc I can get 8 oz dry off of it.
I use 45 liter totes. IME growing more than 5 lbs at a location just woulnt work. Rly any scale grower without a properly built lab with hepa's running 24/7 foot bath decontam area all that shit are just going to run into contams. I rely on 25% of my tubs to produce a half lb the others end up in the garbage. 20 tubs or so to get 10lbs a months that pull through so id do 80 tubs to make sure I could gt my quota. Thats 1200 lbs of substrate a month. 160 lbs of rye. 80 bricks of coir. 160 liters of verm. Its a logistic nightmare. Neighbours looking at you cause your carrying 20 totes into the house and all that other shit. Plus on top of that several times have i had my whole farm go south. Massive trich infections. I clean my shit up real well with strong bleach water too. Everytime you get a contam having to decontam the whole room. So much work and its not very easy to do it production style.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18413875 - 06/13/13 02:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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princeshroom,pm me your setup im dying to know
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PrinceShroom said: You go around talking shit about anne. You do realize that anne has set the cacti world 80 yrs ahead with her tek.
Except that anne doesn't get shit about his cacti teks.
I could mention that grafted cacti have been around for a lot longer than anne has been though 
He gets shit because of his holier-than-thou attitude and his obvious lack of experience when it comes to growing mushrooms.
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PrinceShroom said: You go around talking shit about anne. You do realize that anne has set the cacti world 80 yrs ahead with her tek.
Except that anne doesn't get shit about his cacti teks.
I could mention that grafted cacti have been around for a lot longer than anne has been though 
He gets shit because of his holier-than-thou attitude and his obvious lack of experience when it comes to growing mushrooms.
First off i know you know that anne is a girl. You call her a him just to try to get her going. There are pics on the net of her. Ys grafting cacti to torchs and bridgesci have been around for yrs before anne. But before here and her sister started grafting lophs to peres things have changed no one even knew wat a pereskipsios was until that tek came out. and it still takes 2-4 yrs for a grafted cacti on a trich or torch compared to 4-8 months grafted to a peres. Obvious lack of eperience growing mushrooms? Are you serious? Anne has a retarded amount of pics of her growing mushrooms so that statement seems a little off alot off actually. If you want to talk about this more could we move to this is off topic for this thread and i refuse to let it be a beat up anne thread. BTW not a single one of your teks is new. Its all the same old shit thats been posted on shroomery the last 15 yrs. You just took someone else's tek and redid it. Thats kinda plagarism to me. Did you even mention the person you stole the tek from? Gave them credit? Or do you just think your the first person to properly pasteurize a substrate?
Im not here to fight or argue. Just people living in glass houses shouldnt throw rocks.
You never mentioned the cn's??????? Problems??????
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franks a perfect example of following the proven and getting shit done
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The design is pretty much just Magash's TiT incubator.
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FrankHorrigan said: If you want to use jars to pasteurize (RR-style)
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FrankHorrigan said: Citric suggests rehydrating the grains prior to spawning and I tested this out recently.
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FrankHorrigan said: And now to give credit where credit is due 
RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms series
CH Hell's Additives Thread
Citric's final grow
Citric's Cup O' Shrooms
TL's one-flush wonder monotub
TL's still-air box build
TL's WBS prep
TL's ELME Liquid culture tek
TL's G2G in a SAB video
Total's Dunk-your-mono Tek
HC's Greenhouse
Mephisto's Master Slant Tek
wbastz's cordyceps work
And to anyone I missed...

It's called credit where credit is due and unlike a few people I can think of, I know where to give it
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PrinceShroom said: I use 45 liter totes. IME growing more than 5 lbs at a location just woulnt work. Rly any scale grower without a properly built lab with hepa's running 24/7 foot bath decontam area all that shit are just going to run into contams. I rely on 25% of my tubs to produce a half lb the others end up in the garbage. 20 tubs or so to get 10lbs a months that pull through so id do 80 tubs to make sure I could gt my quota. Thats 1200 lbs of substrate a month. 160 lbs of rye. 80 bricks of coir. 160 liters of verm. Its a logistic nightmare. Neighbours looking at you cause your carrying 20 totes into the house and all that other shit. Plus on top of that several times have i had my whole farm go south. Massive trich infections. I clean my shit up real well with strong bleach water too. Everytime you get a contam having to decontam the whole room. So much work and its not very easy to do it production style.
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But before here and her sister started grafting lophs to peres things have changed no one even knew wat a pereskipsios was until that tek came out.
Lol wut? People have been grafting all kinds of cacti to Periskopsis for years. Anne innovated with the hydro shit, which is a good idea, but that's about it.
And while your peyote may be mature in a few months, it still needs a year or 2 in soil to regain potency.
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BTW not a single one of your teks is new. Its all the same old shit thats been posted on shroomery the last 15 yrs. You just took someone else's tek and redid it. Thats kinda plagarism to me. Did you even mention the person you stole the tek from? Gave them credit? Or do you just think your the first person to properly pasteurize a substrate?
If you look through his stuff, yes, he does give credit.
Frank's a nice guy, but like I said, you should keep your claims down till you have proof, otherwise you're just gonna keep getting flack. I'm not saying you can't do it, but lots of people bullshit here, so when new people come in bragging about new shit, everyone just thinks "Heard this before. Put up or shut up." And then most of them never post again.
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bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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tko
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: 36fuckin5]
#18414029 - 06/13/13 02:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is quite off topic... but frank DOES give credit, and proved it. and just like 365 said dont expect anyone to believe you till you have proof. otherwise you could be a 15 year old kid trying to sound like a badass or something...
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PrinceShroom
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Ur giving credit to 2 very good friends of mine. 3 actually. Also before anne there was no such thing as hydro cacti. So she did bring something completely new to the board.
I have problems getting why so many people have issues with anne. To me she has been so nice and helpful. I see what people say about her and find it completely out in left field. I talk to anne and ive never noticed wat so many people go on about her for
She didnt have to show her ways to anyone. She has went thru alot of ridicule for it. People talking shit to her about her and her tek and not even trying it. Thats hypocrisy. Dont knock something until youve tried it. 95% of people that try it the way it presented agree with all the claims. There are just people here brainwashed by shroomery and think shroomery's way is the only way to do things properly or well.
Listen frank let me release my tek in the fall then me and you go head to head same size tub however you want to grow them. Any iso or clone you want to use and we will see who gets the bigger yield for the same sized tub. No point bickering like little girls let me finish up my tek post it then we can go. Set up a date and time to start see who gets more the fastest? Sound good to you Mr. TC?
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IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
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FrankHorrigan
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Quote:
PrinceShroom said: Listen frank let me release my tek in the fall then me and you go head to head same size tub however you want to grow them. Any iso or clone you want to use and we will see who gets the bigger yield for the same sized tub. No point bickering like little girls let me finish up my tek post it then we can go. Set up a date and time to start see who gets more the fastest? Sound good to you Mr. TC?
Why would I want to compete with you?
You're the one talking shit about your accomplishments.
I'm content to help people out and grow how I grow and learn what I learn.
Your ego-driven nonsense that has been displayed in this thread is just silly to me.

I don't see your "friends" acknowledging you so like i said...I don't believe you
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tko
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i dont know if its the fact your profile says "king in waiting" or something else but yeah i bet you pat youself on the back quite a bit lol.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18414110 - 06/13/13 03:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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check his pics out
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PrinceShroom
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: cronicr]
#18414153 - 06/13/13 03:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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To make it really fair we should use the same iso....Quote:
FrankHorrigan said:
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PrinceShroom said: Listen frank let me release my tek in the fall then me and you go head to head same size tub however you want to grow them. Any iso or clone you want to use and we will see who gets the bigger yield for the same sized tub. No point bickering like little girls let me finish up my tek post it then we can go. Set up a date and time to start see who gets more the fastest? Sound good to you Mr. TC?
Why would I want to compete with you?
You're the one talking shit about your accomplishments.
I'm content to help people out and grow how I grow and learn what I learn.
Your ego-driven nonsense that has been displayed in this thread is just silly to me.

I don't see your "friends" acknowledging you so like i said...I don't believe you 
O your scared about someone w 70 posts compared to your tc tag. ive helped so many damn people on OMC's. Ego driven nonsense? hmmm not really im a fairly modest person.
Expect some from my friends that you dont think I know. You seem unsure of your ways if your unwilling to compete with me
Im done with this thread if anyone has anymore to say to me you can me
I cant believe your scared frank. I got 70 posts and im a " " or so ive been told. You got your TC tag and ur afraid to a little competition? Want to put a wager on it? I have a very extensive exotics collection.
Again no mention of the CN's....Quote:
tko said: i dont know if its the fact your profile says "king in waiting" or something else but yeah i bet you pat youself on the back quite a bit lol.
wow everyone has me so wrong. Im so unpretentious....
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cronicr said: check his pics out
All the pics are from the first yr I grew once i went upto scale i didnt want to take pics in case the police see rooms of monos.
Anyways if yall got something to say to me me im sorry for hijaking this thread tko my apologies
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FrankHorrigan
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No, I earned my TC tag and I'm happy to be able to help people out all the better with it.
If you want to go ahead and post a grow log where you blow my grows out of the water, I'll probably drop by and say "great harvest!" because that's just how we roll around these parts.
You grow 10lbs a month? Cool 
I'll be waiting for those PMs.
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PrinceShroom
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well too bad your not man enough to go toe to toe but thats ok. Its coming and its coming strong. I just txt ch im sure you will gt a fr him soon enough considering i talk to him on the fone everyday and im sure tl will come and say something to you too. I havent spoken to total in about a yr so im just going to let that one go but im sure tl and ch will be enough proof?
I hope you do come by and chk it out.
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FrankHorrigan
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36fuckin5
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PrinceShroom said: Ur giving credit to 2 very good friends of mine. 3 actually. Also before anne there was no such thing as hydro cacti. So she did bring something completely new to the board.
But you said she invented grafting to Pereskopsis. Which she did not.
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I have problems getting why so many people have issues with anne. To me she has been so nice and helpful. I see what people say about her and find it completely out in left field. I talk to anne and ive never noticed wat so many people go on about her for
Because she's got a big ego and her text formatting is hard to read, mostly. Half the reason people are jumping your nuts so hard.
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Listen frank let me release my tek in the fall then me and you go head to head same size tub however you want to grow them. Any iso or clone you want to use and we will see who gets the bigger yield for the same sized tub. No point bickering like little girls let me finish up my tek post it then we can go. Set up a date and time to start see who gets more the fastest? Sound good to you Mr. TC?
Why you gotta compete?
-------------------- Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.
bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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Re: couple brf agar ?'s [Re: tko]
#18414261 - 06/13/13 03:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: My last grow I had four tubs. My smallest first flush was 6 1/2 oz and my biggest was at 9 or something along the lines. The other two were around 8 oz mark. This was MS. Using a clone I would of pulled off a much better flush.
Flushes of this size are far from uncommon when someone actually knows what they are doing.
You grow 10 lbs a month for 3 years yet still cannot pull out a 8 oz flush. 
Thread closed, flame fest. I'm to tired to issue warnings right now so I will issue them at a later date.
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