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Terramoto
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: hyperjump69]
#18396266 - 06/10/13 08:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patching is not just verm is the casing meaning verm+brf? brf is food+humidity wont form contam? I did exactly as the tek said i waited for it to fully colonized and + 1 week, 100% no contam! I took it out, i drill holes in a box put some perlite inside and spray, put cakes in, wait 1/2-1h spray again, and after that keep control of the humidity, the cake was developing well untill i started to see the aerial myc which i posted here. I took it out of the box, my first thought was to toss it but since the dots were less then 10+- i thought i should give it a try without contam the other cakes.
If i spray more the box will be 100% humidity, i thought the right thing to do was to keep it between 87-95%?
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
#18396424 - 06/10/13 09:00 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patching is only verm. The BRF was added when you made the jars. BRF is what they eat. The verm is to hold moisture and give the myc something to grow through. That's why you load jars light and airy. The dry verm was a contam barrier. I read from your first post to the last. From confusion over the pressure cooker (which BTW is a 15 psi cooker. When the weight rocks it's at 15 psi- no gauge required- it's auto. Don't let it rock- the more it rocks the more you dry out your substrate, which in your case is BRF.) to confessing the cakes didn't look 100%. This is an EXACT science. That's why it is a SCIENCE. My sub is WBS. I like it but I'm ready to go to rye. I hear it's much better. All I can say is this. Slow down. Have patience. Study like crazy and CLEAN. Follow the tek's to the LETTER. The universe doesn't dance to the song you play. Get your karma clean and they will reveal themselves to you. All on their time. Once again- peace to you.
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Terramoto
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: hyperjump69]
#18398797 - 06/10/13 06:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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If patching is only covering it with verm why does everyone calls it casing? Was a missunderstanding the english is not my native language. Before i made every step i check on different threads, some say "patch it with casing", then later i search for casing and i see some calling casing substrate. As to the PC, the rocks here dont have any weight on it, the only number you have is the volume of the PC which was 9L. What i did? I set it till the rock starts spinning and from there did (i dont remember now but i did like what i've read here) dont remember if it was 45min or 90min and the cups had moisture, did everything clean. The problem only started after i put brf+verm in one of the cakes, cause everything else was working ok even if the cakes werent 100% colonized, what i read in this forum was that when every side is covered with myc the cake is fully colonized and it was but it wasnt fully white. Hope you taking this as a healthy discussion, my english might give a different understanding, pins started growing even the one with black spots is growing, i'll put images tomorrow
Edited by Terramoto (06/10/13 06:52 PM)
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] 1
#18398851 - 06/10/13 06:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good for you! Keep at it. It gets easier. 
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
#18400248 - 06/10/13 10:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Terramoto said: As to the PC, the rocks here dont have any weight on it, the only number you have is the volume of the PC which was 9L. What i did? I set it till the rock starts spinning and from there did (i dont remember now but i did like what i've read here) dont remember if it was 45min or 90min and the cups had moisture, did everything clean.
The thing on top of a pressure cooker that rocks (moves back and forth) is called the weight. It is used to hold in only a small amount of pressure, usually between 13-15 pounds per square inch.
45 minutes is okay for plastic. 90 minutes is okay for glass.
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Terramoto
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Psilicon]
#18401549 - 06/11/13 05:20 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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The one with weird color is the one that had the black spots, but the spots have disappeared. I'm wondering if this could be from touching the cake?




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hyperjump69
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] 1
#18401800 - 06/11/13 07:34 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Terramoto said: The one with weird color is the one that had the black spots, but the spots have disappeared. I'm wondering if this could be from touching the cake?
When I get black spots I usually know the grow is over. The black spots come from contamination.  Did you wash your hands or wear gloves sprayed with alcohol when you patched? Your fingernails carry BILLIONS of germs on, over, and under them. Just like your hands. It could have floated in on the air that you moved with you when you lifted the lid. You are using a SGFC and the holes all over it allow your room air inside. If the room air is stale or full of mold spores then that can happen. You might as well mist and fan like crazy to keep the pins growing. They might not abort.
The blue color shows up when you pick up or touch the cakes. That's just from being handled. Sometimes mine will get a bluish tint when they are getting on the dry side.
I run a HEPA anti-bacterial filter setup in my room which allows for air movement which allows for nice FAE (I do mono-tubs) as well as clean-air. I wear gloves and a mask when I mist my tub. And just in case I missed something, the water I spray on them has been boiled and allowed to cool. That way I'm not introducing "baddies" that may have been in the water to my grow.
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: hyperjump69]
#18403158 - 06/11/13 01:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just threw the verm+brf in, i read that after the myc sets that it resists to contam, the other cakes are ok its just this one that i had to pick up so i could move it to another box in another room, i did grab the cake thou, it doesnt look like powder, like mold usually looks or green/black dots, it looks like the myc changed color. Im watching for the first time mushrooms growing live and its awesome!! Even if i fail with this one, next one will be a monotub. Im constantly opening the lid to see the little change every 2-3h. :X
theres a small mushroom with a bit skin peeling is that a sign of abortion?
I'll try to get better quality images next time, my phone sucks
Edited by Terramoto (06/11/13 01:54 PM)
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Terramoto
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
#18412380 - 06/13/13 06:47 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is the membrane open? I was hoping to see skin peeling from it, but its just open without any skin peeled.






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hyperjump69
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
#18412464 - 06/13/13 07:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Great job bro! Those look nice. It's easier to PM someone than keep posting back and forth. Although I can see you really don't need any help. Peace!
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Terramoto
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: hyperjump69]
#18412808 - 06/13/13 09:57 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Should i harvest them now? i dont see the membrane
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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
#18413226 - 06/13/13 11:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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harvest those ones
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