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Beanerwiener7
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Not seeing any growth.
#18400609 - 06/11/13 12:00 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's been two weeks after I inoculated my mycobag. I have yet to see even a single sign of growth and although I'm not completely freaking out, I am a bit concerned on whether or not it shlould have shown signs or is it common for it to take longer before you see any growth? Thx.
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itsaconspiracy
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Be pateint dude let me guess you inoculated with a multi spore syringe? They can take any where from 5-4 weeks man don't worry about a thing.
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Beanerwiener7
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Yep I used a spore syringe of some hawaiin. Thanks for the input, it puts my mind to rest . I'm still tryin to get a grasp on this site not to mention the whole process of cultivating. I'm thinking of knocking up another mycobag while I wait for this one to get going. I wld like to get a decent amount of them goin before winter ( which I know I have a lot of time till) this year is completely a learning experience before I get a serious set up. Gathering as much info as I can so your input ( no matter how little) is much appreciated.
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Beanerwiener7
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Btw what would b a good trusted sponsor site to get mycobags and spores from for decent prices??
I really wanna learn how to grow without having to keep buying spores and such from sites but haven't found enough info on the process of how to do it where I feel comfortable I cld do it.
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TrentBoyett
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I like out-grow.com for bags/supplies and ralphstersspores.com for spores.
But all of the shroomery sponsors are great. http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php
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Beanerwiener7
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Thx, I was actually just looking into out-grow. Great prices btw.
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TrentBoyett
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Yes and their products are top notch, same thing with ralphsters.
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Beanerwiener7
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Thx. Any specific spore at which u prefer? I used hawaiin for the first batch and was thinking of just repeating that. Is there really any significant difference among them?
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TrentBoyett
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Pretty much all cubensis "strains" are very similar with the exception of penis envy.
Here is a link to a forum that talks about the different varieties http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10560039/fpart/1/vc/1
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Beanerwiener7
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Thx you been helpful.
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did you inject the spores into the middle, If the spores got mixed into the middle of the bag it could be likely you have growth but cant see it yet.
If there is any condensation in the bag, then something is growing (as its generating heat)
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TrentBoyett
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No problem.
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Beanerwiener7
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Idk if this wasn't a good idea but I injected some in the middle and some along side the bag.
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BloodKil
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I personally think itsa went a bit far out with a possible 5 week prediction... IMHO if you don't see growth near (or somewhere below) the sites you injected near the bag itself in 3 weeks than something has likely gone wrong. (The middle injections as pointed out by veda will be impossible to see until they have grown out)
If after 3 weeks you have seen no growth at outside sites, I would squeeze around your bag a bit and look for growth from inner injection sights. If none can be found its likely there were issues somewhere along the way.
Though waiting 2 weeks to see growth can be a bit of a pain, it's not unheard of either. Keep with it a bit longer and keep your hopes up.
As far as the above comments about mycobags...
If you are seriously even considering making the plunge into purchasing a larger setup, then you might want to do so sooner than later if possible... The amount of cash spent on mycobags compared to making your own is pretty insane. Also you need to consider the facts of what you can learn from making them yourself and the guarantee that you can have in the fact it is sterilized properly if you make them yourself.
As far as syringes for microscopy...
Ralph's would probably be the last place I would go. (as far as site sponsors) For one he is not going to be a sponsor much longer. This is mainly due to the string of bad reports about them ripping people off and him not having the decency to correct such matters... Instead he goes out in a flaming glory making insane rants (which can still be read in sponsors forum and elsewhere... don't take my word for it)
I'd personally recommend Thesporedepot.com, as their customer service and shipping is top notch, and if for some reason you don't choose them there are still a lot of other great sponsors like sporeworks.com who will also be able to reliably service your microscopy needs...
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Beanerwiener7
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Re: Not seeing any growth. [Re: BloodKil]
#18402849 - 06/11/13 12:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the great feedback guys!
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TrentBoyett
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Re: Not seeing any growth. [Re: BloodKil]
#18403027 - 06/11/13 01:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I just seen that he isn't a sponsor anymore. I always had good luck with him.
But I'm unsure why he really stopped being a sponsor.
I'm not sure if it's because of what he said or what everyone else is saying.
I think it's a combination of both, either way he will be missed by me, he was a legend.
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BloodKil
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What he said (in his I'm off posts) was some simple scare tactics because he was pissed.
From what I understand...
He got upset because people were talking smack about his company... He could have simply rectified the issues internally, (some issues I had even pointed out to him) but instead got all flustered and decided if the shroomery wasn't going to silence the customers his company screwed over then he would leave... Then in his sign off posts he made a bit of an ass of himself with his rants on CC and what his lawyers supposedly told him. (Complete bs)
As I said the above is only as I understand it...
He may once have been a great and reputable dealer, and as he started the origional fsr I am glad he was a part of the community, but after a quick search one could easily see that the massive amounts of complaints against his company, (compared to the other reputable sponsors) and the way they treated customers (even publicly) make it a easy choice to not purchase from them. His leaving statements... well they speak for themselves.
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Beanerwiener7
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Re: Not seeing any growth. [Re: BloodKil]
#18404454 - 06/11/13 05:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is all of your thoughts on incubation? I'm going the route without it as I have heard it is unnecessary . And does anybody have a link or cld u explain a step by step procedure for how to continue a grow without using a new spore syringe or spore print. Thx
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Beanerwiener7
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I believe I just answered my own question on the incubation. I have seen signs of mycelium for in all around the bag from large spots to tiny ones. I'm excited as hell, no signs of contamination. I'll be patient in waiting for the whole bag to be colonized and the real fun will begin.
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TrentBoyett
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Good luck, I hope it all goes smooth from here on out for you.
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Beanerwiener7
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Me too man thx. I'm getting ready to knock up another bag while this one continues colonizing. Attempting to research the Agar cloning technique as much as I can so I don't have to keep buying spore syringes in the future.
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Beanerwiener7
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Soo far so good, roughly half of the bag is colonized and it has begun to feel very heavy compared to before and dense. I'm getting quite excited. Now I have a 14 x 14 inch plastic bin to fruit it in. I'm going to drill holes on each side as well as the bottom and place sterilized perlite moisend with bottled water. What I need to know now is...... What shld I place the substrate on once its outta the bag, so it doesn't come in contact with the perlite?
Shld there be holes on the lid?
Shld I use a heating lamp similar to what's used for a lizard terrarium tank? Or will an average desk lamp be enough?
And how long after it appears to be fully colonized shld I remove it from the bag and place into the FC?
And any info on how to get second possibly third flushes outta this wld b appreciated thx again.
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Edited by Beanerwiener7 (06/15/13 01:39 PM)
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TrentBoyett
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Place it on piece of aluminum foil that is only slightly bigger than the substrate.
Yes there should be holes on the lid, the bottom, and all four sides.
Any 6500k light will do.
After it's at 100% colonization you let if consolidate for a week in the bag, then take it out and give it a 24 hour dunk then roll in dry coarse vermiculite and put in fruiting chamber on foil.
And you should be able to get 3 flushes, after every flush just re-dunk for 24 hours and put back in fruiting chamber.
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Beanerwiener7
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thx mjmihalov, much appreciated!!! you just answered basicly everything i needed to know. only thing i was wondering about is. . . .when dunking the substrate do u just put it straight into the water and let it sit, jw cuz i wld imagine it breaking up into mush or is it that the mycelium will hold it together??
thx alot youve been much help.
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TrentBoyett
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The mycelium holds it all together.
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Beanerwiener7
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alright thx alot. id give you a great rating but im onot able to rate yet lol.
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