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Please tell me this isn't a contam.
    #18397197 - 06/10/13 12:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)



Is this? It basically formed in a matter of 5 hours or so. I was trying to initiate pinning. There is a potential pin in the bottom of the discolorment however I don't know what the discolorment is.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18397281 - 06/10/13 01:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I can't see anything.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Stropharis]
    #18397300 - 06/10/13 01:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You can't see the picture? Or need a better one?

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18397304 - 06/10/13 01:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

need a better one


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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: cronicr]
    #18397309 - 06/10/13 01:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

looks nasty, but bad picture

you can smell the jar on the outside, if it smells sweet/sour/rotten/moldy outside the jar it is bad/contamed

if no smell, we need a better pic to decide

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: lessismore]
    #18397349 - 06/10/13 01:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Not really a smell, smells the same as the other jars, like a verm. fresh smell. Some of my other jars have some offwhite blotches on outside edge of the jars but maybe it is just mycelium growth. Here is a better picture, I hope. This is my first time so I am unsure about how it should smell.



Edit: if it isn't quality enough I can take a better pic later tonight.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18397599 - 06/10/13 02:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

still bad picture

could be uncolonized, or could be contam

give it another week, if it still looks like that it is probably contamed

you want 100% colonization before birthing

else toss the jars if they don't colonize 100%

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: lessismore]
    #18399739 - 06/10/13 09:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Dang alright. I would've figured contams would've poked there heads out earlier in the colonization than after the jar is fully colonized. I'll keep track of it and if that darker spot turns out to be a pin i'll probably keep the jar.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18399750 - 06/10/13 09:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The picture is pretty unclear, but it looks like it could be a pinner trying to form and squishing up against the glass or myc piss(metabolites).

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: CaptainFantasy]
    #18400219 - 06/10/13 10:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

like everyone else has said, those pictures are terribly unfocused.

Could just be metabolites, though, how long has the jar been fully colonized?

And what do you mean by saying you were trying to initiate pinning? It's still in the jar, you need to fruit that bad boy before initiating pinning.


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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: ganjfather]
    #18401815 - 06/11/13 07:42 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It's been fully colonized for probably a week. On the forums I was reading about people having pinning in their jars before birthing. So I put a few of my fully colonized jars in a little bit of light.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18402127 - 06/11/13 09:27 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I've had some fucked up looking shit that looked literally exactly like that & was very easily mistaken for contams, but once I birthed them & put them in the FC they took off & started growing like crazy. Looks like a combo of a squished pinner, metabolites, and most likely a little blue/green bruising from the pinner getting squished. I'd birth it & put it in the FC. At the very least expose them to light & loosen your jar lids a bit.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: CaptainFantasy]
    #18402147 - 06/11/13 09:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I had a jar that clearly had brown mold on it, but let it colonize and I fruited it in a PMP and got a few nice fruits, I tossed it after harvest.. Whatever that is, it WILL fruit, just cut off that contam.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18402185 - 06/11/13 09:43 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't pull it out & start cutting away until you make sure it's not a contam. Maybe birth it and post another clearer pic of the supposedly contaminated area. It'd suck to cut away at & damage a perfectly normal cake for no reason. If it starts spreading or is identified as a contam I agree, but identify the problem area first.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18402191 - 06/11/13 09:45 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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It's been fully colonized for probably a week. On the forums I was reading about people having pinning in their jars before birthing. So I put a few of my fully colonized jars in a little bit of light.





Mycelium benefits, at all stages of growth, from ambient lighting. You shouldn't ever keep your jars in complete darkness, ever.

If they have been fully colonized for a week, I'd say it's time you cracked em open, give them a good smell, if they smell earthy/like mushrooms, dunk and roll then birth them into your fruiting chamber. Odds are, you just have some metabolites/bruising


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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18402195 - 06/11/13 09:46 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Whatever that is, it WILL fruit, just cut off that contam.



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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: PussyFart]
    #18402237 - 06/11/13 09:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'm telling you that shit is a brown contam, I have dealth with it before, its above the mycelium, look closely... its not uncolonized sub..

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18402244 - 06/11/13 10:02 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If they are BRF jars, that is probably just the verm layer above the myc.

It's hard to tell what anything is in those jenky ass picture, though.

If OP could take a decent pic, a decent assessment would be in order.


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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: ganjfather]
    #18402306 - 06/11/13 10:21 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It even has black darker areas, that shit is contamed but will fruit, thats my bet.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18402346 - 06/11/13 10:32 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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It even has black darker areas, that shit is contamed but will fruit, thats my bet.





Are you seeing pics that the rest of us are not?

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: ganjfather]
    #18402369 - 06/11/13 10:40 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)



shits not normal

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18402390 - 06/11/13 10:45 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

looks like bacteria to me bud, probly not the end of the world though if it is you will know when you open it and smell it, if it smells wrong simply take it out of the jar and leave it on the counter for a couple hours, bacteria will dry up and then just dunk and proceed like normal:cool:
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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: cronicr]
    #18402419 - 06/11/13 10:53 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I've had bacteria a couple times and it was never that dark, but yeah it probably is... So good news it will fruit most likely.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18404480 - 06/11/13 05:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Better pics!

Another spot of an off-white patch


So if it is just bacteria all I do is take it out of jar, sit on counter for a few hours, then dunk as normal?

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18404526 - 06/11/13 06:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

first pic is mold and metabolites trying to fight the contam

second pic is bacteria

you're not gonna get a good flush with that cake

but what your gonna do is dunk for 24 hours, don't even bother rolling, then put in fruiting conditions and pray for the best...

be happy with whatever you get from that cake...

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18404545 - 06/11/13 06:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

is it safe to put in the same FC as the good cakes?

After looking at the higher res pics it's easy for me to tell it doesn't look good.

Edited by DOJOLOACH (06/11/13 06:15 PM)

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18404783 - 06/11/13 06:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

With the better resolution pics, I'd say it is safe to say you have something funky going on.

I would follow deathcore's advice, at least try to get some fruits out of them.

If you do have another FC or could build one, I would, otherwise after all the cakes are out (healthy and contamed) thoroughly sanitize your FC


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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: ganjfather]
    #18404874 - 06/11/13 07:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'll probably just use the same FC and sterilize with wipes after the cakes are burnt out. The FC is at 79 degrees

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: DOJOLOACH]
    #18404892 - 06/11/13 07:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I'll probably just use the same FC and sterilize sanitize with wipes



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    #18405012 - 06/11/13 07:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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I'll probably just use the same FC and sterilize sanitize with wipes



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Yeah, that.

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Re: Please tell me this isn't a contam. [Re: ganjfather]
    #18405995 - 06/11/13 10:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Let us know how your cakes turn out!

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    #18407324 - 06/12/13 08:18 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I will! I plan on documenting with the higher quality camera :thumbup:

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    #18407336 - 06/12/13 08:22 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

document FRUITS :laugh:

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    #18407821 - 06/12/13 10:51 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't birth any cake with bacteria or mold in it

would toss it, don't bother opening it

I tried sniffing bacteria jars once with lid off, wouldn't recommend that to anybody

turned out the whole mycellium network was infested, and it smelled quite moldy too
but looked 100% colonized

yield was about half of normal , or less with most of those cakes
never birthing bacteria cakes anymore

got very sick in the trips and afterwards, maybe improper drying/handling/refridgerator storage
the shrooms didn't smell right either, smelled sour

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    #18407824 - 06/12/13 10:52 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Good advice but its not a big deal to try and get fruits from it as an experiment.

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    #18407835 - 06/12/13 10:54 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I tried birthing mine, the whole SGFC smelled moldy and sour after 1st flush

and most of them never fruited

the trip on those shrooms were very different, not enjoyable
bad from the start each time

never had bad trips before

it is nice to know what you eat is fresh

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    #18407844 - 06/12/13 10:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Even if I had 40 great cakes and 2 contamed ones, i'd isolate both contamed cakes into soda bottles in a different room... Then again if I had 40 great cakes I wouldn't care about those 2 contamed ones and toss em out..

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    #18407852 - 06/12/13 10:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

isolating contamed cakes sounds like a good idea if you are gonna try it
but just colonizing a new jar would be a better idea, it's not much of a hassle

if there is bacteria there is a chance there might be contam inside the cake too

bacteria cakes often take longer to colonize I think

so you have to sniff the cakes really good
I don't like sniffing bacteria cakes


I had to go back to agar when I encountered bacteria, it was in all my jars without knowing it (transparent mycellium)
and not only small spots, it was everywhere on the cakes
sometimes mildly sour, sometimes very sour/rotten smell
they looked good, but didn't fruit much
normal cakes are much more white, like bright/thick white

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    #18408046 - 06/12/13 11:43 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

could i just make an isolated FC by cutting 2 liter bottle in two, poking holes in it, and putting some perlite on bottom? I don't have another light to use so i could just use the sun.

Is it too late now that I have it in my normal FC?

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    #18408052 - 06/12/13 11:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yep that will work!


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    #18408063 - 06/12/13 11:45 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

and it's not too late now that i have it in my normal FC?

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    #18408092 - 06/12/13 11:51 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

nope i doubt it, doesn't look like any airbourne contam i know of, bacteria is more of a contact contam


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    #18408132 - 06/12/13 11:57 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok cool deal. I'll get this quarantine FC up asap

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    #18428598 - 06/16/13 04:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

My first shrooms are growing but they're so small! Really fat base (.5") on some of them but barely 1.5" tall and I see signs of the cap separating already. Do I need to bump the humidity up? I just misted a shitload and dumped water onto the perlite

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