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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18400364 - 06/10/13 11:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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lol I really love these gifs, is there a list of them somewhere?



yeah, whenever you are posting click on the yellow smiley face and then click on more smileys, there are a SHIT TON.


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #18400669 - 06/11/13 12:16 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

oh my god.. I had seen the more smileys button, but I didn't see the little plus sign to expand after that. this is absolutely insane lol


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18401051 - 06/11/13 01:15 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I completely understand the natural thing. as I mentioned, I tripped twice before on what was supposedly acid (who knows), and both times had profound impacts on me.

the first one made me realize how much I disliked my job and the fact that I was on a path to stay stuck there forever if I didn't do something about it. I quit a week later and moved to an area in another state I had always thought sounded beautiful (around the Smokey Mountains) and I wanted to experience it first hand. I couldn't be happier I moved here. I've never felt closer to nature, and although I get a little lonely at times having left all my friends and family, I would rather feel like I'm in the right place and it's everyone else that's in the wrong place, if that makes sense.

the second time was largely a very bad trip. I vaguely remember taking 7-8 showers in a row, trying to scrub my skin off because it seemed unclean, and being too afraid to step outside in my apt complex just to let my dog pee. this was right after I moved here, and I didn't take the set & setting warnings seriously and I paid for it. I was freaked out being in a new area all alone, and to make matters much worse, I had just been in a bad car accident 3 days earlier that I narrowly escaped without injuries. I was in a terrible frame of mind to be tripping.

but the good thing that came out of it was towards the end when I finally was ready to eat something and my brain/body totally rejected the artificial frozen dinners I was planning on eating. I felt an internal warning that I wasn't allowed to eat that kind of shit anymore, and I ignored it and took a bite anyway. started vomiting everywhere immediately. ever since then I've switched to an entirely natural diet, nothing but meat, vegetables, fruit, eggs and a little dairy. I feel so much better than I've ever felt in my life.

that switch to the natural is also what made me decide to step away from acid and try mushrooms. as much as acid helped me, I just feel so much more comfortable knowing what I'm putting in my body. I just need see what the actual experience is like now and how it differs!

you made it sound very beautiful though. I am really looking forward to it. I will probably check out Fantasia, I was also planning on watching Alice in Wonderland for the first time. I have also been programming an extremely psychedelic visualizer that I am really excited to see while tripping.

sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into a novel. and this was just supposed to be a thread about pin identification too :laugh: is this place pretty lax about off-topic posting?




I am very impressed that you decided to quit your job and move just like that. It was a similar thing for me, I tried mushrooms with my boyfriend for the first time and a lot of things just didn't seem to be in the right place any more. I also ended up moving away from my family, friends etc. I would ultimately like to move out of the country, or try some time in Colorado. I always wanted to, and then they legalized marijuana and now it seems like the perfect fit should I choose to stay in this country. I have been to Thailand, Japan, and Laos. There are so many places I still want to see, and would looooove to go to Europe too, of which I have no experience. But before I do all that, I felt I needed to take some time to heal and find myself again. It took me awhile to realize the person I had become had been defined by trying to fit in in school, a mold given to me by my parents, the friends around me etc. I didn't realize I'd become old enough to be whoever I want now, but now I just got to figure it out. Mushrooms has helped me do that in many ways, and even more so, ayahuasca (Although I have only done it twice. It's getting harder for me to get mhrb) but if you can ever get some, I think ayahuasca would be perfect for you. It's quite different from shrooms, and it really did change my life.

I first started eating healthy, switching to a more plant based diet, and then organic. I then started juicing, which is what I live by now. I do like meat, but the meat that you get doesn't really taste appealing to me anymore, I still get sick from it. If I could get more organic meat, I would eat much more of it - but I guess ideally I'd love to live somewhere with land where I can raise my own animals. Though who knows, by then I might have already become fully vegetarian or vegan. When I try to eat any processed food, especially after detoxing my body I usually get sick.

Anyways, I ended up rambling too. We could always make a new thread, but for these kinds of thoughts, there are so many things to be said. After doing mushrooms, I also could no longer handle doing any synthetic drugs, especially opiates of which I was once addicted. I don't even like taking advil or nyquil or any medication, because I feel drugged when I do - and I don't want to feel that way anymore...

It seems a likely thing that people who start into this hobby are rewarded in more ways than one can count - the knowledge is vast, and I feel without it my life, my brain would have remained stagnant. I'd reach a part of my life where I was content, it was mundane, and now I can ask questions again, the curiosity that I had lost has returned. :smile:

Look into ayahuasca too! And if off-topic is a rule breaker, think of a snazzy topic and we can move to a different thread! Lot's of love to you and your grow!  :rockon:


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: One Love]
    #18402377 - 06/11/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I would love to travel like that, I've never even left the country. I am really into ancient history and would love to visit some historical ruins as well as just see what nature itself has to offer, especially somewhere like New Zealand. definitely have to get the finances settled first though!

as for quitting my job, yes, it surprised me too. I have always found myself on this narrow path, moving from checkpoint to checkpoint without ever stopping to wonder why or what I was gaining from it. to be honest, I'm not entirely sure I like my new job that much either, but the relocation itself was a great decision, and its given me some mental relief while I decide what to do about employment in the long term. there are things I am passionate about that could feasibly become a source of income, but they're risky (business-wise, not legally  :smile2:) and I have to overcome my fear of failure and potentially having to pick myself up out of the dirt if it doesn't work out. I'm hoping mushrooms will give me some new perspective on my life in that regard and even if it doesn't convince me to go for it I'm hoping it will provide insight to help me reach some kind of conclusion.

ayahuasca has interested me very much for some time now, but it seems like quite a different level of commitment, both to obtain and to experience. I am a huge fan of an author named Graham Hancock who speaks extensively of his positive experiences with ayahuasca and how it saved his life from his own destructive habits. definitely hoping to try it some day, but I decided to start simpler first with the mushrooms lol

stagnation is something that is easy to fall into without ever realizing it. I see it in my parents as well as in my own life. it's way too easy to assume your life is like a train that requires tracks to move forward, but when you can manage to knock yourself off those tracks (entheogenically or otherwise) you realize that you never needed them at all. the hard part is stopping yourself from slowly crawling back into that rut and not learning anything from it. that's part of the reason I took the plunge with quitting my job. I knew that I had been very fortunate to get an objective "third person" perspective on it but if I didn't act on it it would fade away and ultimately have provided nothing as I fell back into my old patterns.

anyway, the grow is looking great! every time I check on it I notice more pins and the rest have grown noticeably larger. they're starting to look more and more like actual mushrooms. I don't think I'm going to get a huge yield, as the # of pins is not nearly as large as some of the ones I've seen on here, but like I said before, I am proud to be getting anything at all. thanks for the support, you guys are cool as hell!



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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18402802 - 06/11/13 12:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

right on op, are you noticing improvement since you completed you're SGFC and added the right amount of perlite?


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #18402928 - 06/11/13 12:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

tough to say man, I made that change exactly when the pins finally appeared. very unscientific of me lol. I can say that the pins look healthy and have been growing rapidly so I would be willing to bet it was a big help. I noticed more condensation on the walls and lid for sure, but not to the point where it's dripping, which seems like a good thing!


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster] * 1
    #18403106 - 06/11/13 01:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

krunkmaster, this is indeed a very rewarding hobby which Im sure will only result in expanding in your scientific research. I do, however, recommend that you (as well as any other fresh scientist) look into some bulk teks. BRF cakes are the way to go when learning this tedious culture, hands down. But once you're familiar with the PF Tek, spawning some quarts of rye to bulk coir in a monotub will blow your mind with results.

Search, read, search, read, search, read... and repeat. If you do that, the results will be wonderful. Patience is key to success and the last tip... do NOT tell anybody about cultivation. It can lead to trouble. It's like Fight Club.

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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: HankMarducas]
    #18403225 - 06/11/13 01:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

thanks Hank, I definitely would like to move to something more advanced after this. like you said, I just wanted to familiarize myself with the life cycle of this peculiar little creature and see if I enjoy its gifts before learning how to cultivate it efficiently. would you say it is just as easy to be discreet with bulk growing processes? I'm in an apartment complex but I have a decent degree of privacy. could get dicey if things get too large or smelly though lol

and I am doing my best to keep it a secret! not hard when I haven't met any friends in a new town, but I find myself wanting to gush about it nonetheless. my brother told me a long time ago when he was growing weed that if nobody knows then you can never get caught. seems like solid advice. tbh my paranoia is why I am stuck with this stupid username. don't want to use my normal handle here lol


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18403246 - 06/11/13 01:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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tough to say man, I made that change exactly when the pins finally appeared. very unscientific of me lol. I can say that the pins look healthy and have been growing rapidly so I would be willing to bet it was a big help. I noticed more condensation on the walls and lid for sure, but not to the point where it's dripping, which seems like a good thing!



hell yeah, and I agree with hank, after this try bulk, I have yet to do it but it is for sure the very next on my list. And silence is golden man. Dont let ANYONE know about you're shit, not your sister,best friend, or even you're grandma. If you can do that you're golden. :thumbup: and as for stealth and smell, its pretty much going to be the same size/smell as you're sgfc. you just use those plastic walmart tubs or tubs like it.


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #18405050 - 06/11/13 07:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Rye to bulk coir is my preferred method. I think it's way easier, aside from the fact that beginners to the hobby to not usually want to invest in a PC. BUT it's totally worth it.
You can buy rye in bulk online, I got 50 lbs and the box doesn't seem to of gotten any lighter :P

But aside from that, you could still do BRF cakes and do bulk coir using a monotub. That's actually what I've got going now as I had some extra verm and brf leftover I wanted to get rid of.

If you ever did want to try with friends, you could feel the waters on the subject and then maybe oneday, when you are ready, say you got a hold of some. But in terms of cultivation, don't tell! You've got us on Shroomery to gush to after all ;p

I'm soooo excited for you!


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: One Love]
    #18405289 - 06/11/13 08:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Rye to bulk coir is my preferred method. I think it's way easier, aside from the fact that beginners to the hobby to not usually want to invest in a PC. BUT it's totally worth it.
You can buy rye in bulk online, I got 50 lbs and the box doesn't seem to of gotten any lighter :P

But aside from that, you could still do BRF cakes and do bulk coir using a monotub. That's actually what I've got going now as I had some extra verm and brf leftover I wanted to get rid of.

If you ever did want to try with friends, you could feel the waters on the subject and then maybe oneday, when you are ready, say you got a hold of some. But in terms of cultivation, don't tell! You've got us on Shroomery to gush to after all ;p

I'm soooo excited for you!



I already own a PC lol. but I think im going to try both the rye to coir and BRF to coir at the same time(different tubs of course) next time.


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18405660 - 06/11/13 09:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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thanks Hank, I definitely would like to move to something more advanced after this. like you said, I just wanted to familiarize myself with the life cycle of this peculiar little creature and see if I enjoy its gifts before learning how to cultivate it efficiently. would you say it is just as easy to be discreet with bulk growing processes? I'm in an apartment complex but I have a decent degree of privacy. could get dicey if things get too large or smelly though lol

and I am doing my best to keep it a secret! not hard when I haven't met any friends in a new town, but I find myself wanting to gush about it nonetheless. my brother told me a long time ago when he was growing weed that if nobody knows then you can never get caught. seems like solid advice. tbh my paranoia is why I am stuck with this stupid username. don't want to use my normal handle here lol




I feel as though it can be more discreet due to a build I came across on here. A completely opaque 66 quart tub with a few LEDs siliconed into the lid to ensure no light escapes will be a prime chamber to work with. Monotubs are damn near self-sustaining from my experience and with what other have posted. Im going to paste a few links down below for an extremely easy yet very rewarding bulk tek that I now use. From one mono, getting 6oz. cracker dry is as easy as the PF cakes. The best part is rendering two tubs from one multispore syringe and not having to stink up the city air with pasturizing farm poop. City folk will certainly question those smells. Since no poo is used, it's virtually odorless... unless you run the pressure cooker dry with grains in it. I had 10 syringes lying around... so do the math :eek:

Monotub tek by Ohmatic http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5276282/an/0/page/0

Pyropuppy420s stealth monotub tek (the one you'll probably want) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13848326#13848326

Franks simple coir bulk tek (seriously simple) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17325780#17325780

The "One Flush Wonder" tek (great for tips) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14507008#14507008

Ridiculously simple grain tek http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2589172#2589172

All you need to do is read over this stuff a few times and apply previous knowledge. I was intimidated by these bulk grows at first thinking the yields meant complexity but it's truly easier in my opinion... but that's with prior cake experience.

Now once you're familiar with the bulk growing and you want beautiful, prolific, consistent flushes... I highly recommend cloning the tissue of the first to pin and also the largest to some agar. All in due time. Baby steps with this helped me keep away frustration, contamination and stress.

I hope this helps and the very best of luck to you.


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: HankMarducas]
    #18408075 - 06/12/13 11:47 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hank, thank you so much for the links. I was going to ask where to start with bulk teks but I felt like that probably gets asked so often that it would seem lazy of me :smile:

other than the two tubs, are those links all teks that you can use together as they are for different aspects of the grow? I looked through several of them and it seems that way but I am really unfamiliar with anything other than PF tek so it's a lot to take in. of course I will read much more closely when I am preparing to start a new grow!


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18408503 - 06/12/13 01:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, Krunk. They can be used together for the most part. The three main spectrums in a bulk grow are: the chamber being used (monotub), the grain tek which will be for colonizing mycelium (rye grain is most popular and easiest) and the substrate which the colonized grain will be transferred to (coir being most accessible).

And to give a brief description of a bulk grow...

The quart jars will be properly measured with dry grain and water which is then pressure cooked for complete sterilization (like a 1/2 brf jar). Once cooled, the MS syringe is used to inject 2-3cc of spore into each quart jar which can then be shaken to disperse the spores all over the grains. Let it colonize a bit and then shake again. Once it's fully colonized and without consolidation, it's time to prepare the simple coir substrate tek and dumping it into the mono. Larger amounts of colonized grain used in the substrate will help colonize the prepared and pasturized coir quicker while aiding in keeping the contaminates from taking hold.

Once you have some successful PF grows under your belt, it's going to be a breeze.

So again, the three main pointers in this are: monotub build, rye grain preparation and substrate preparation.

(Don't mess with hpoo (hourse manure) unless you have your own place and a carbon filter for the farm stench it puts off)

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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: HankMarducas]
    #18408744 - 06/12/13 01:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

that sounds incredibly simple, I see why you are pushing me in that direction. it actually doesn't seem that much more work than PF, though I guess you need a PC (which I already have). you would have to be pretty dedicated to pull in manure rather than just using rye grain :smile:

I am excited to try this now. I haven't even eaten a single mushroom yet and I'm already stoked to try growing in bulk lol

is consolidation something you just have to eyeball?


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18410311 - 06/12/13 07:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

here's some updates!



interesting how some of them look like they're coming straight out of the vermiculite. does the cake root into the verm once it's been there long enough or something?


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18410344 - 06/12/13 07:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you got some APE,looking great


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: cronicr]
    #18410395 - 06/12/13 07:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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you got some APE,looking great



you're right, I went and looked at my second syringe (which I thought was APE) and realized I actually swapped them! I wanted to use the Ecuador syringe for the first batch to learn how this works, then grow APE the second time once I knew what I was doing. looks like I was so excited I mixed them up. no big deal, it seems to have worked out anyway :tongue2:


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18410922 - 06/12/13 09:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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you got some APE,looking great



you're right, I went and looked at my second syringe (which I thought was APE) and realized I actually swapped them! I wanted to use the Ecuador syringe for the first batch to learn how this works, then grow APE the second time once I knew what I was doing. looks like I was so excited I mixed them up. no big deal, it seems to have worked out anyway :tongue2:



haha dont feel bad man, on my last grow the marker I labeled the jars with wore off(do to my chronic handling lol) so I had four different varieties but had no idea which was which :awehigh:

Edit: looking good man :highfive1:


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Re: Should I be concerned with this or is it just a pin? [Re: krunkmaster]
    #18411227 - 06/12/13 10:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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you would have to be pretty dedicated to pull in manure rather than just using rye grain :smile:

is consolidation something you just have to eyeball?




The manure would be part of the substrate which is what the colonized rye grain would be spawned into (mixed within). That is, unless you're referring to just a cased layer of only Rye and a coir/verm casing for hydration and not spawning.

Consolidation isn't eyeballing. Colonization is though. Once the whole outside of a jar is completely white, that's when consolidation comes in play. It's the time frame in which the cakes finish up the middle of the substrate and use up almost all the nutrients to put forth in the fruiting stage. The longer you give time to consolidate a PF jar, the better your pinset will be.
Its said on here that 4-7 days after full outer colonization is enough to consolidate but I shoot for 2-2.5 weeks. As you see in the signature picture of mine with the scale, that's a 2.5 week consolidation result of only one cake. Dried to 4.8 which is a rather hefty weight for just one.  It was absolutely covered in fruit from top to bottom.


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