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Buttle
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!st time grower please hep
#18393509 - 06/09/13 06:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi. This is my first time growing and I'm a little nervous about how my cakes are doing right now. I started the fruiting process about a week ago and one of the cakes has no sign of pins, whereas the other has two pretty fat ones coming out.
Does it look like the growing mushrooms are okay? How do I know when to twist them off and dry them?
I don't know if you can tell from the picture, but the caps are already tearing from the stems and the bottoms are looking a little blue. Is that good or what? I'd really appreciate some help, any feedback would be great, thanks shroom community!
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H. Buttle
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: Buttle]
#18393551 - 06/09/13 06:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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the fol is way to big that they are sitting on, harvest those mushrooms(cap has changes color veil is open there ready) dunk the cakes and don't have them on huge pieces of foil they should be like[0] but even closer,pick your cakes up before you dunk to get a general idea of how dry theey are but a 12-24 hour dunk will do, do not re-roll, mist until they glisten then fan every couple hours till the moisture is no longer visible and repeat, harvest when the veil begins to tare or just after for printing, print on a clean piece of heavy duty foiland have a good day bud
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: cronicr]
#18393566 - 06/09/13 06:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you have holes in the bottom and top of that thing then the above poster is correct. All that foil is ruining your air exchange. Just cut the foil to the size of the cake or just set it on a lid you aren't using. You also should elevate that tub up off of that wicker chair or whatever it is you're using. Put something under each corner to elevate and let the air flow up through the tub.
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Edited by MushroomNSwiss (06/09/13 06:28 PM)
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Buttle
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: cronicr]
#18393737 - 06/09/13 07:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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That was really helpful thanks a lot man. I'm not familiar with what "printing" is, but I'll do some research. Should probably be a little more informed anyway...
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: Buttle]
#18393757 - 06/09/13 07:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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just curious, but once the cakes reached full colonization, did you give them time to consolidate? lack of fresh air exchange can definitely explain less pins, but i have also found that when i dont let jars consolidate they do not fruit very well. that is quite a bit of foil though, the idea of the foil is just to make sure the cake doesn't touch the perlite
Edited by secret_gardens (06/09/13 07:14 PM)
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: Buttle]
#18393958 - 06/09/13 07:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you have a lighting system set up? Light helps trigger pinning.
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: Lee]
#18394002 - 06/09/13 08:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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they look fine, other then the foil and the fact that he flipped his cakes and took the pic upside down
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: Lee]
#18394135 - 06/09/13 08:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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i feel fresh air exchange is more important for pinning than lighting. lighting is essential in giving them direction but in my experience FAE has been a very important factor in pinning. it is the evaporation of moisture off the cakes that tells them when to pin. a 12 hour light cycle using either indirect sunlight or a 6500k bulb definitely wouldn't hurt though and gives them direction.
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: cronicr]
#18394150 - 06/09/13 08:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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So do you have holes in the top and bottom of that tub?
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secret_gardens said: i feel fresh air exchange is more important for pinning than lighting. lighting is essential in giving them direction but in my experience FAE has been a very important factor in pinning. it is the evaporation of moisture off the cakes that tells them when to pin. a 12 hour light cycle using either indirect sunlight or a 6500k bulb definitely wouldn't hurt though and gives them direction.
it's gravity that gives them direction, they fruit upwards in complete darkness, they will however orient there caps towards the light
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secret_gardens said: i feel fresh air exchange is more important for pinning than lighting. lighting is essential in giving them direction but in my experience FAE has been a very important factor in pinning.
FAE is definitely more of a pinning trigger than light, but light is still a pinning trigger. Though it may not be as important, I still think it's important.
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Buttle
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Thanks for the concern. I didn't let them sit for too long after colonization, but I have another cake that's colonized and I'm waiting a little bit to birth that one. How long do you think I should wait on it? It looks contaminated on the bottom, but I'm thinking I'll just slice off the infected part and try to fruit in a separate container from the others. Is this advisable?
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Buttle
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No, just in the top.
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Buttle
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Thanks a lot, I moved them into a room with some sunlight and put them under a window.
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Re: !st time grower please hep [Re: Buttle]
#18400117 - 06/10/13 10:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Buttle said: Thanks for the concern. I didn't let them sit for too long after colonization, but I have another cake that's colonized and I'm waiting a little bit to birth that one. How long do you think I should wait on it? It looks contaminated on the bottom, but I'm thinking I'll just slice off the infected part and try to fruit in a separate container from the others. Is this advisable?
No. If it's contaminated, you'll know for sure in a day or two, and you shouldn't open it up anywhere near your grow. Bury it outside. You might get lucky and get a few fruits, but probably not. You will help the soil, though.
If you can't stand the wait, post pictures here and people will probably give you an answer immediately.
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Buttle
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Second hydration, looking for some advice. [Re: Psilicon]
#18427820 - 06/16/13 01:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello fellow shroomateers. I took your advice from my last post and rehydrated both of my cakes. It's been about a week. One of them seems to be doing pretty well and has produced one thick shroom with three smaller ones emerging. The thick one is peeling from its cap, but isn't completely separated. Does it look ready for picking? What's usually a good indication that they're ready?
The other cake, though, has not produced anything. Should I rehydrate again and see what happens?
Any advice you guys have would be greatly appreciated, you really helped out last time. Thanks a lot!
- Buttle
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