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InvisibleMOTH
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More info about the Victory Act:
    #1836849 - 08/21/03 12:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok..more info about the Victory Act, and guys...I'm scared shitless.

Victory Act Info

"This bill would treat drug possession as a 'terrorist offense' and drug dealers as 'narco-terrorist kingpins,' " the aide argued. "To say that terrorist groups use a small percentage of the drug trafficking in the United States to finance terrorism may be a fair point, but this bill would allow the government to prosecute most drug cases as terrorism cases."

"It really seems to be more about a political agenda to jail drug users than a serious attempt to stop terrorists."

"Absolutely nothing would prevent the attorney general from using these subpoenas to obtain the records of people who have no connection to terrorism, drug trafficking or crime of any sort."

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Check it out and see for yourself. This kind of stuff is driving me insane.

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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1836864 - 08/21/03 12:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"... drugs cause paranoia, confusion, and total loss of reality in politicians that have never taken them"
-- Dr. Timothy Leary


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Edited by neutralizer (08/21/03 12:52 PM)


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1836916 - 08/21/03 01:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Who were the idiots who actually voted for Bush anyways? Good job there guys.



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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: Xochitl]
    #1836922 - 08/21/03 01:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think they're called "The US Supreme Court"


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1836939 - 08/21/03 01:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It is pretty scary, no doubt, but they're trying to create the world in their own vision of how things should be, making some excemptions for themselves where desired, no doubt; otherwise, such legislation would make Bush's niece a terrorist then too, correct?
neutralizer, very appropriate quote...why do people even care what others do with themselves? Are they so driven to make everyone else like they are? Very sick, definately not emotionally stable.
Man, I seriously hope he doesn't get reelected; maybe Dean could reverse some of the shenanigans George and the boys have been engaged in (I'm just assuming he gets the nod).


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1836948 - 08/21/03 01:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That is scary!...how do you americans feel about this?

"This bill would treat drug possession as a 'terrorist offense' and drug dealers as 'narco-terrorist kingpins,' "

How is terrorism and drugs related, other than it provides an amazing opportunity for explotation?...


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1836954 - 08/21/03 01:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

GernBlanston said:
I think they're called "The US Supreme Court"



They also had the help of a bunch of old Jews in Florida who "voted" for a Nazi sympathizer named Pat Buchanan.


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1836980 - 08/21/03 01:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm terrified. This is really...well. It definately doesn't help me have faith in our country. To say it lightly, it makes me want to pull out my hair and scream.

-ShadeGirl


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1836993 - 08/21/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Azmodeus, even if it means incarcerating every American, at least the streets will be safe for the children...who will of course be kept in massive orphanages since thier parents will be in prison.
I think America is a big experiment in social psychology, just using the human tendency towards conformity, typical of a social animal, in concert with the mass media to condition the masses to accept whatever agenda the government chooses to promote.


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1837016 - 08/21/03 01:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Why don't you move?


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1837022 - 08/21/03 01:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

TheHobbit said:
I think America is a big experiment in social psychology, just using the human tendency towards conformity, typical of a social animal, in concert with the mass media to condition the masses to accept whatever agenda the government chooses to promote.




Thats what it seems like to me, so realising it how can you subjugate yourself to such crap? there are better places to live....


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1837052 - 08/21/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm saving up as we speak!  As it stands now, I should have enough funds to relocate countries with minimal financial risk in about 2-3 years.  I just hope by then its not too late.  What country do you reside in Azmodeus, out of curiousity? 

Edit:  Never mind...I saw your profile and realized that you lived in BC, Canada, my hoped for destination.  :grin:

-ShadeGirl 


Edited by EllemyshShade (08/21/03 01:43 PM)


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1837060 - 08/21/03 01:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A friend is moving to BC soon, and I'd be right behind him, but as I understand it you have to have a job skill that is in needed and in short supply, so as not to displace native Canadians, which is something I really don't have. I'd love to go to school for culinary arts, but I have to work, given a mortgage and all the other associated bills in my life, and the one school not too far away that does have a program in this doesn't offer the classes at night (I work during the day).
I suppose one shouldn't let it's country's elected officials chase one out of his/her own country, that's pretty sad to consider.


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1837083 - 08/21/03 01:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

EllemyshShade said:
I'm saving up as we speak!  As it stands now, I should have enough funds to relocate countries with minimal financial risk in about 2-3 years.  I just hope by then its not too late.  What country do you reside in Azmodeus, out of curiousity? 

Edit:  Never mind...I saw your profile and realized that you lived in BC, Canada, my hoped for destination.  :grin:

-ShadeGirl 




Thats good.  I hear the netherlands is really nice too, but that'd be some culture shock im sure...
Im close to vancouver bc...its an amazing city.  The taxs are kinda high here, but you can smoke pot pretty much without any worries, lots of outdoor recreation, it was rated high on good places to live...

Where are you going to in bc?


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1837103 - 08/21/03 01:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

TheHobbit said:
A friend is moving to BC soon, and I'd be right behind him, but as I understand it you have to have a job skill that is in needed and in short supply, so as not to displace native Canadians, which is something I really don't have.





No, its the same as most other places, you need to know someone to get a job...or have lots of experience, it not really what you know...
You can work the day you get here at a labour station. It hard work, but they pay $8-10 bucks an hour, your hours are completely flexible, so you can look for other work while working too.
YOu could make a living in the fall from mushroom picking in the north of BC...start a shop...i would recomend against going to school here as they unfroze the tuition, and prices, lack of quality, and number of students is on the rise.

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TheHobbit said:I suppose one shouldn't let it's country's elected officials chase one out of his/her own country, that's pretty sad to consider.




That is true. But a country is just a place where your born, with certain rules differin from other countries. Its all the same earth....
In the end all you can do is live how you wish to the best of your ability.


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1837118 - 08/21/03 02:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This enrages me.


I want every Bush supporter to hear me loud and clear. If you vote for Bush, you are voting for The Victory Act.




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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: Learyfan]
    #1837123 - 08/21/03 02:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thats a nasty little picture there....^^^ :shocked:


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: MOTH]
    #1837155 - 08/21/03 02:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"You can't blame President Bush for this because that would be like blaming Mickey Mouse for when Walt Disney fucks up"

But anyway, it looks like everyone is about to jump off of the sinking ship known as the US of A. Free country? Best country in the world?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: ]
    #1837166 - 08/21/03 02:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, three people on a message board want to leave. It must mean everyone else does as well.


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Re: More info about the Victory Act: [Re: ]
    #1837171 - 08/21/03 02:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

"You can't blame President Bush for this because that would be like blaming Mickey Mouse for when Walt Disney fucks up"




I'm sure most people mean "then entire Bush administration" when they say "Bush". Noone thinks Bush runs the show by himself.




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