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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1840961 - 08/22/03 03:06 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I'd rather not have holes poked in a plane that I am in, but I'd feel a lot better about a hole in the plane than a jihadi behind the controls.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841195 - 08/22/03 04:25 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

even knowing I used to work on a/c structures?! :ooo: you are brave indeed.... :wink:


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841200 - 08/22/03 04:27 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Compared to the alternative of having the ship flown into a football stadium or something it would be worth the risk to me.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841278 - 08/22/03 04:59 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I have some faith in the NDT inspector that followed you :P



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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841297 - 08/22/03 05:10 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

heh....you'd be surprised at some of the things i saw...the AME, as they're called here, has 4-10 people like me to inspect. Actually i was good at what i did, but i saw others hide some bad shit...if you want to hide something, you usually get away with it, and its the inspectors ass if the plane crashes. They only make $30 an hour on average, thats a main reason i didn't pursue that career....that and FAA regulation of drug testing in canadian companies dealing with american a/c parts...


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841302 - 08/22/03 05:12 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I used to weld nuke plants together in the navy. No way in hell you get any defects past the NDT inspectors.

Civilian world is a whole 'nother story.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841308 - 08/22/03 05:14 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

$30 Canadian per hour? That's not bad at all, especially if you get overtime.

How many Loonies to the US dollar?


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841315 - 08/22/03 05:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

True, some take thier job much more seriously than others... your talking NDT as in non destructive testing right? Depends on where you work to,...air canada they're pretty good, and there is no getting by ndt cus they have that dye penetration technique and whatnot....when i worked at the composite manufacturing place though, it was a small business, they don't have ndt inspectors, just ame's and shit went down....


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841335 - 08/22/03 05:21 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, Non Destructive Testing.

Dye penetrant, ultrasonic, magnetic, or x-ray.

It was kind of cool, but I'm glad I don't do it anymore.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841338 - 08/22/03 05:22 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

wingnutx said:
$30 Canadian per hour? That's not bad at all, especially if you get overtime.

How many Loonies to the US dollar?




Not sure what the rate is....but apprentices get 12-14/hour with increments up to 18-20 dollars around year 5. Then its a shitload of tests, and you have your license. 30 ain't bad, but your responsible for the work of 4-10 apprentices below you, so you had best know your shit, cus if a plane goes down its your ass.
I could have lived with that, but noone can tell me what i do on my free time, and i got tired of using flush kits etc...
There is lots of overtime at a place like air canada too, free flights, full dental medical etc...my pricipals are more important.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841342 - 08/22/03 05:23 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I always just cheated on drug tests. It's easy :smile:



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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841344 - 08/22/03 05:23 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

wingnutx said:
Yeah, Non Destructive Testing.

Dye penetrant, ultrasonic, magnetic, or x-ray.

It was kind of cool, but I'm glad I don't do it anymore.




You actually did the NDT? thats cool, did you have your license and everything? what did they pay you?...it was in the military?...


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841357 - 08/22/03 05:26 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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I always just cheated on drug tests. It's easy :smile:

 




You carry one of those piss packs or something?....it was random in the field, the compostie place i worked at didn't test....but they went out of business within 6 months of me starting.... :mad:NO!, the two events were NOT related... :wink:



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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841382 - 08/22/03 05:31 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Nah, I was the guy who's welds got tested.

I was in the navy, so I got 4 cents an hour.

I cheated on pre-employment drug testing as a civilian, where you go into a bathroom unsupervised and fill up a bottle. I would either smuggle in some clean water to dilute, or just drink a lot before the test.

When I was active military I would drink tons of water and pee alot before testing, on the few occasions that I was worried about it.



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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841399 - 08/22/03 05:36 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

interesting! :smile:

Well back on topic...sorry, if anyone actually read through all that... :blush:
wingtux, how are you preparing to survive this dreaded bush dictatorship, or martial law? is preperation unescessary, or have you stockpiled food?


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841407 - 08/22/03 05:39 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Damn dude,how long ago were you tested? That drink a bunch of water shit would not fly with the newer tests if you are any kind of regular drug user,especially the military ones.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1841443 - 08/22/03 05:52 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I have plenty of general-purpose survival gear. Going through countless typhoons and hurricanes, blackouts, water and gas shortages lets you know what is handy to have around :smile:


  • MRE's- I have about 10 of these laying around from my last deployment.
  • Water- Anyone who lives in the desert without water is a fool. You never know when a construction crew will break a line or something.
  • Flashlights- and of course batteries for them.
  • First Aid- I am studying to be an EMT and trauma nurse right now, but everyone should have first aid supplies.
  • Fire extinguisher- another 'duh' item
  • Guns- I have one gun for self defense, and 5 more because they're fun :smile:
  • Tools- I make stuff all the time, so I can turn into MacGuyver at a moment's notice. Welding, carpentry, leather crafting, whatever.
  • Fuel- This one caught me with my pants down. Phoenix is in the midst of a gas shortage right now, due to a broken pipeline. I need to go get some gas cans to fill up for the short term.
  • Misc- camping & 4x4 gear is all survival gear.
  • Duct Tape & nylon cord- fixes anything
  • Plastic Sheeting- I can make my own drinking water with a sheet of plastic and a shovel.



And no, I am not worried about martial law being imposed.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: monoamine]
    #1841450 - 08/22/03 05:53 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

It lowers the PPM count to acceptable levels. It takes a while to build up in your bladder.

If they make you sit there for an hour or so then it wont work.

I think the military used the EMIT test when I was in. They'd only do spectroscopy to confirm a positive result, cause that shit's expensive.


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841468 - 08/22/03 05:58 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I was reading something the other day about how military pilots carry some kind of hand-held distiller that will convert salt water to drinkable? Know anything about that?

How do you go about getting water from plastic and a shovel? Just give me the basic gist of it if you can. This wouldn't work in any kind of arid conditions or somewhere with a low aquafer,would it?


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Re: Surviving the Bush Dictatorship - Martial Law [Re: wingnutx]
    #1841486 - 08/22/03 06:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

They won't work now if they're diluted.They check for creatine and all kinds of shit now,even the cheaper ones. They've come a long way in the last few years,but they still give false postives all the time.

The military are about the only people that test for LSD. Standard corporate tests only look for weed,barbiturates,PCP,opiates,coke,and amphetamines.


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