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veda_sticks
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
#18368254 - 06/04/13 03:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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colinisng jars in darkness is considered old and outdated information. colinising your jars in darkness is more just out of the way where it cant be seen kind of thing. it wont hurt things to be in the darkness.
But its not a must. infact some considering exposure to ambient light benificial. I myself seem to see improvements having exposure to ambient light from inoculation through to fruiting. butits not a must.
If you need to keep jars out of sight, darkness if fine.
Also I keep seeing people posting get a pressure cooker when talking about the pf tek. Theres no need for a pressure cooker if doing pf tek grows. if you have one might as well use it, less time sterilising.
I used the shittest smallest pot i had for the pf tek, it worked and worked well. infact i only ever had a few jars contaminate and it wasnt sterilisation problem. Steam sterilisation works fine.
watch the videos from the site i linked earlier, theres also some good links in my signiture for information on different ways of growing.
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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Goomygrower
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: veda_sticks]
#18368584 - 06/04/13 05:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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If anyone could tell me all the different growing method itd b greatly appreciated. Ik there is PKT and GSPS(?) but idk what all the abreviations mean so please completely spell them out for me seeing as how i am a nub.
Also i havent been told y not to do the Self Healing Injector Points using RTV Hi-Temp Silicone.
-------------------- "He even traces the word “Christ” back to an ancient Sumerian word that meant “A mushroom covered in god’s semen.” "- http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206253
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The Alaskan Dude
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: veda_sticks]
#18368588 - 06/04/13 05:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I started with the 9er tek which you can find a link to yourself if you search the site and not forums. It is simply making cakes from whole brown rice with a little less water used. Supet simpke, super effective, and you can ingest the cakes afterword or strain them through juices with ascorbic acid to trip off of.
Honestly though if i were you id just go straight into colonizibg rye and transferring to a monotub. SERIOUSLY DUDE you need to just do what mushroomvideos.com tells you. There really isn't a better way to begin.
-------------------- The five colors blind the eye,
The five tones deafen the ear,
The five flavors dull the taste.
Racing and hunting madden the mind,
Precious things lead one astray.
Therefore the sage is guided by what he feels and not what he sees.
He lets go of this and chooses that.
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Goomygrower
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: The Alaskan Dude]
#18368669 - 06/04/13 05:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ill look into that for sure once im done working but im curious about ALL the alternative grow methods. Someone please share the tricks of the universe with me
-------------------- "He even traces the word “Christ” back to an ancient Sumerian word that meant “A mushroom covered in god’s semen.” "- http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206253
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: The Alaskan Dude]
#18368688 - 06/04/13 05:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Alaskan Dude said: SERIOUSLY DUDE you need to just do what mushroomvideos.com tells you. There really isn't a better way to begin.
this site/videos are the basis to all parts of growing mushrooms.
they have proven to be successful for everyone else around here, that's why it is referred to so much on the shroomery.
RogerRabbit knows what he's talking about
-------------------- have a look at my grow.
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The Alaskan Dude
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
#18368690 - 06/04/13 05:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bro do you see how many posts and pics I have? I've been reading the shit out of these forums for more than a year and there is plenty I don't know. You need to do your own research and go tthrough trial by fire like everyone else. Patience is KEY.
-------------------- The five colors blind the eye,
The five tones deafen the ear,
The five flavors dull the taste.
Racing and hunting madden the mind,
Precious things lead one astray.
Therefore the sage is guided by what he feels and not what he sees.
He lets go of this and chooses that.
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Goomygrower
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: The Alaskan Dude]
#18368970 - 06/04/13 06:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im well aware im not being inpatient. Im curious about the different grow methods so i can then tweak and adjust them as needed. I plan on going to the website that was link right after im done with this post. I am incredibly knowledge hungry/horny and im dying to learn the basic techniques and tweak them and hopefully make them better. I do appreciate the feed back tho.
FINAL THING: PROS AND CONS OF SELF HEALING INJECTOR PORTS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
-------------------- "He even traces the word “Christ” back to an ancient Sumerian word that meant “A mushroom covered in god’s semen.” "- http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206253
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
#18369016 - 06/04/13 06:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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rtv silicone all the way in my opinion
-------------------- have a look at my grow.
"genius by day, junkie by night"
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Goomygrower
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: fungitarian]
#18369082 - 06/04/13 06:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Since i am getting the kit i will need to add that on so i need to make the holes put on the silicone then sterilize again in my pc for 1 hr at 15psi correct?
-------------------- "He even traces the word “Christ” back to an ancient Sumerian word that meant “A mushroom covered in god’s semen.” "- http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206253
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BloodKil
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
#18369334 - 06/04/13 07:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why are you still so insistent on getting a kit after you have been told multiple times it's a waste of money...
Purchase your components separately, especially as you have means to sterilize them yourself.
Look up a couple lid teks... Yes use rtv. (Yes yes yes) use tyvek, ez felt, or sfd for filters (I use ez felt as you can make a hundred plus filters for under a buck, and they last multiple pc cycles)
Look up pf tek Look up grains Look up g2g Look up agar Look up fc Look up monotub Look up sgfc Look up green house Look up Frankhorrigan (read his "how I get shit done")
Spend time 2ith the search bar on those subjects and you will not only have a lot better idea of what is going on, but you will likely greatly increase your chances of success (and a bountiful one at that)
Spend more time reading and less time asking questions or telling us about the outdated teks/overpriced kits you think you should be using and you will end up a lot more happy when you get your grow going.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
#18369946 - 06/04/13 09:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Goomygrower said: So what you are saying is that the junk of my garage i ripped apart and reorganized to make a dark room is worthless?
Yes. There was a book written 30 years ago that had that darkness and high temp stuff in it. Since it was the first only real 'modern' book on mushroom growing, it still gets quoted all the time to this day. Most of it is good stuff, but a few bad bits of info seem to be the ones people remember. RR
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twistedty
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: RogerRabbit]
#18370017 - 06/04/13 09:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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me and hacker are gonna start selling these kits of jars, grain, and coir/verm
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Throw in the Towel
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: RogerRabbit]
#18370026 - 06/04/13 09:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you buy a kit you might not regret it later, but you will at least wish you had just bought all the same things separate and done it yourself. For one, you save yourself money and the risk of some company looking to make a quick buck and not actually following proper sterile practices; and two, you'll feel that much more satisfied to know that you did all the work involved.
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: twistedty]
#18370060 - 06/04/13 09:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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twistedty said: me and hacker are gonna start selling these kits of jars, grain, and coir/verm
you'd make bank considering how many posts a day are about buying kits
-------------------- have a look at my grow.
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The Alaskan Dude
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: fungitarian]
#18374385 - 06/05/13 07:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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The simplest covering to your jar imo is tyvek, which can be bougjt as a paint suit. Tyvek withstounds tremendous heat and is a barrier for contam and moisture. Its also the easiest fucking thing to cut and throw under a lid.
-------------------- The five colors blind the eye,
The five tones deafen the ear,
The five flavors dull the taste.
Racing and hunting madden the mind,
Precious things lead one astray.
Therefore the sage is guided by what he feels and not what he sees.
He lets go of this and chooses that.
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Juiceh
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: The Alaskan Dude]
#18392568 - 06/09/13 01:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tyvek and ez felt are garbage, their pores are way too big! This has been verified with a microscope. Use SFDs!
One problem with buying premade jars to add silicon to the lids is the premade jar makers do a terrible job spacing the holes. 99% of your jars will look like a blind guy with a hammer and a nail randomly punched 4 inoculation holes in your lid. So buying your own jars and making the lids properly from the start will turn out much nicer. Not to mention your paying for someone else to sterilize them and then just undoing that work and redoing it, really not saving you anything.
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Juiceh]
#18392734 - 06/09/13 02:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea i bought one of those kits and it seemed to work out.But now about 6 months later i found out that what all the people above have posted above is 100 percent true and the greatest thing i thought helped me the most is reading RR notes and posts from other TC on this site. Thanks again guys. Ive allso found if your going to buy from anyone online make sure there a shroomery sponsor.
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: arby313616]
#18392887 - 06/09/13 03:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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make your own jars its easier and way cheaper.
sfds are the best.
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Goomygrower
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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: twistedty]
#18449755 - 06/20/13 10:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey all, So i have begun to grow and one of my jars have a black dot in it. Idk when i should consider this a contamination. Ive been watching it closely and it has not grown what so ever so i can not tell if it is a contamination or so weird spec in the jar. The black spec is on the mycellium and on the inside of the jar. Any tips and when i should consider it a contamination?
-------------------- "He even traces the word “Christ” back to an ancient Sumerian word that meant “A mushroom covered in god’s semen.” "- http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206253
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