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Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips
    #18366127 - 06/04/13 04:24 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hello, First time posting here but you all will be hearing from me lots. I got a few questions before i get all my ish and im dissatisfied. I am more then likely going to order Mega Mushroom Growing and Incubator Kit from http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/grow-kits.html. I have read all over that they are out dated i was just wondering why that is? I am a first time cultivator so i am more then likely gonna buy just because of my lack of knowledge however i do no plan on using that kit forever just to get a good basis till i completely understand it. Also i have gone through the vendor list and i plan on going through the Spore Works. I know they are reliable would just like a little input maybe good deals, whatever. Also i plan on making the self healing injector point on the Jar Lids using RTV Hi-Temp Silicone. I did a test on a lid i bought at Walmart and believe it or not i out and Aux jack in there and when i went to try and blow air through it it was still air tight so i think that will allow for many inoculations with almost no need of a glove box or anything (Please Correct me if im wrong there and please say why i would still need a glove box besides G2G) I do realize that with the self healing injector point it wont allow the Gas exchange however i could not find why the was important so if someone could explain that that would be amazing as well. Also i plan on buying 2 syringes of 2 different strains. 2 of Golden Teacher. 2 of Cambodian. Any reviews on potency and fruiting and how big flushes are? (i saw a thread on all that but i forgot to book mark it so i lost it :mad:) Any Tips on Growing them via the jar method?

Finally id like to apologize if this thread idea has already been used or if this is in the wrong area. done lots of research i haven't seen many of these questions answered.

In-Case anyone is wondering why i plan on going through midwest growing kits....i am going through them because i wish to have everything i may need so i can later experiment and fool around with it and adjust it as i need.


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18366131 - 06/04/13 04:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

www.mushroomvideos.com

kits are expensive for what you get which is really just some pre prepred substrate in jars/tub and a couple of pastic tubs with a heater and a crappy digi humidity guage and thermometer.

doing it yourself isnt hard, doesnt cost much and done right you can get way more than a grow kit sometimes does.

Dont get me wrong ive seen grow kits do pretty well though.

www.mushroomvideos.com

watch the pf tek.

read up on cultivatoin, incubation isnt nessesary. its optional.

if your room temps are in the 70's rnage its just fine, i would only if your temps consistantly stay in the low 60s or dip below 60f.


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18366308 - 06/04/13 06:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I bought the same kit...Its was a super waste of money!! I really hope you read this before you buy it. I got 4 spawn bags and 3 of them contamed. The only thing I actually used was the jars. If I were you... I would buy a pressure cooker, jars, brf, verm. and a couple totes for the same price and if not cheaper, and have some of the equipment to use again and then move to grain and bulk.

I was inexperienced when I bought mine and wish I just got a pc and some jars instead and sterilized my own shit!! 6 weeks waiting on those damn spawn bags just to get 1 that was clean. I was pissed they wernt sterilized properly!! Like I said the only thing I used was the jars after reading incubating was un needed.


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: first time expert]
    #18366366 - 06/04/13 07:06 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The jars that come with the kit are pre sterilized and have the holes in the lids already. Adding RTV to the holes is a bad idea. You want to do that to the jars before they are sterilized. Also, if you're going to rtv the ports you should install a synthetic filter disk patch to a 1/4 hole in the center of the lid. Then when you make brf substrate and fill the jars you can omit the dry top verm layer and fill them completely with substrate. I use jars like this filled with WBS to use as Liquid Culture test jars. That site has a much bigger kit at the bottom of the spawn bag section, why its not under the grow kits section I don't know...


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: Juiceh]
    #18367421 - 06/04/13 12:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for all the response in less then 24 hours! I was exspecting to get responses after i ordered it. Thank you for that. I got a Pressure cooker. I actually planned on not getting one (Due to money not because i didnt think i needed one) how i found a 16q (Which can fit 12 1/2 jars) on craigslist for just 25$! so i plan on making the rtv points and sterilizing jars and then begin inoculation


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18367453 - 06/04/13 12:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Also one more thing. I am in Cali and i was hoping to use Ralphsters because he said that he could ship to ca. Then i relized it was money order and id feel better using credit so im wondering how i should get them to me? Just call UPS and they said that can only foward a package to me if the company says ok.... :frown:((((


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18367523 - 06/04/13 01:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

As has been said kits are a waste of money. This one in particular seems sort of misguided.

(Bubbler setups are kind of cool, I have one myself, but mostly because I like the bubbles. It's one of those things to get into after you've already had some success, because they are not key to it.)

Aside from sterilization, the big risk element is inoculation, and you still have to do that.

So keep it simple. In your situation I'd one of the following:

A: Get a pre-sterilized ryebag, and one spore syringe. Swab the bag, flame the needle, inoculate. Put aside, wait, mash, wait, mash, wait. At 100% add a casing layer right into the bag. Harvest delicious mushrooms. -> minimun risk invitro rye bag tek.

B: Do PF-tek as per RRs instruction, with a shotgun FC. Only use your PC instead of a plain pot. Get pre-made PF tek supplies if you want to, like the jars, verm and RBF. But if you can find it locally it'll probably be cheaper.

I think either way will be cheaper and less error prone.

Edit: re heating pads and incubators. Get a thermometer and try and put it at different spots around your place. A while here and a while there. See, chances are you already have good spots for both incubation and fruiting.

And I should say, my suggestions are not meant to compete with the 30 jars at once promised by the kit. I mean that you should start at a scale you can manage.


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: Hobart Cutter]
    #18367586 - 06/04/13 01:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I am actually hoping to do 48 jars at once. I am currently unemployed so managing then and monitering them will not b a problem just the lack of exspeeiriance might b a problem. Also anyone know anything about the sporelab? Reliability? Spores from there?


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18367654 - 06/04/13 01:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

veda_sticks said:
...kits are expensive for what you get which is really just some pre prepred substrate in jars/tub and a couple of pastic tubs with a heater and a crappy digi humidity guage and thermometer...





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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: StumblesTheDrunk]
    #18367677 - 06/04/13 01:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Also why should i not do the RTV Self Healing injector points? Because i have the means to re-sterilize the jars


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tips [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18367710 - 06/04/13 01:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

are you still set on a kit? if not, what do you plan on doing with the jars? a PF Tek?


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: StumblesTheDrunk]
    #18368025 - 06/04/13 02:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The kit is a jar method no? I plan on incoluating the jars putting them in a dark room i made then after they appear to be 100 inoculated i am going to allow them to sit in the jars for an additional week to allow true 100% colinization. Then dunk and roll for 24 hrs then incubating chamber the kit gives me with perlite. Then pick. Re dunk and roll and allow more fruits. I believe that is PF


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18368050 - 06/04/13 02:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

no need for darkness they should get ambient lighting through out the day, and the extra week isn't for true colonization it's to let the mycelium digest it's meal properly for better fruiting


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: cronicr]
    #18368061 - 06/04/13 03:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I dont need darkness and 86ºF tempatures to allow mycelium to spread? Most guides say to do so


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18368094 - 06/04/13 03:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Most of the guides your are reading are outdated.

Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.

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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: PussyFart]
    #18368140 - 06/04/13 03:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

So what you are saying is that the junk of my garage i ripped apart and reorganized to make a dark room is worthless?


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18368148 - 06/04/13 03:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug:

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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: PussyFart]
    #18368161 - 06/04/13 03:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You could have just used a box.....

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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: PussyFart]
    #18368175 - 06/04/13 03:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok well i truely appreciate all this advice however i will not use it till my second batch due to me being a noob at this and id rather have small yeild then no yield at all. Mayb ill do half and half. Anyone have a thread of guide i can read more into on the site


Also Reliable site which will sell Psilocybin spore to ca. I really wanna study them versus reg edible spores. Id als prefer this site to take credit cards :smile:


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Re: Ordering my Kit tomorrow need some tipsppear to b 100 [Re: Goomygrower]
    #18368182 - 06/04/13 03:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I absolutely could have used a box buy i have dogs running around and i also plan on doing a 48 jar batch so id like to have alot of area which can also be locked to prevent anyone from getting to


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