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cronicr



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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: thundahoof]
#18424207 - 06/15/13 05:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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cronicr



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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: cronicr]
#18424254 - 06/15/13 05:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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just to clear the air here sansa nobody gave you bad advise, you just never included enough details right from the start, you never mentioned the lc until it was time for you to start name calling, just because we haven't tried it doesn't make the premise anydifrent, cubes have fruiting requirements that can be met in a variety of ways, hit those requirements and they will grow, don't get all upset i never intended to hurt your feelings
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Now that it's been over two weeks and I have not gotten any growth, I can speak from experience, NOT theory, and state that this definitely does not work.
your mistake, no need for the definite there's nuthing solid to show that
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sansa said:
I've done the exact procedure before with WBS and verm and gotten plenty of growth. The only change I made was replacing the verm with coir, just like I said in the post. The problem is NOT my method, the problem is the tek itself cannot work at all.
the problem is your method, there's no reason for any type of growth not to work unless it was contammed from the start, test your lc's before using
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The problem is that the coir just sucks up the LC away from the WBS. All combinations of ratios of WBS to coir and various moisture levels all led to the same result: No growth.
The myc probably has to be in a nonliquid form to work. Agar wedge into WBS+coir might work. I may try that. But LC into coir simply does not.
thats y your best bet would be to start with grain first, you would know how your lc was gonna perform. again i say that if you did it correctly there's no reason it wouldn't work but it's never gonna be the practical route to take.......gl to you in the future and hopefullly you get into agar sooner then later oh and.................
Edited by cronicr (06/15/13 05:37 PM)
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Stropharis



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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: cronicr]
#18426084 - 06/16/13 02:14 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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This isn't the first time you have made it clear how big of a Douche you are sansa.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18135103/fpart/7/vc/1
You got your panties up in a bunch for no reason again.
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BloodKil
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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: Stropharis]
#18426128 - 06/16/13 02:42 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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uses fail methodology on large scale and throws shit fit...
And not poisoned that isn't stupid at all... (would have likely colonized much faster I would think... of course that's assuming it colonized at all which sansas lc doesn't seem to be doing)
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wildernessjunkie
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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? ANSWER: YES. Stropharis and cronicr are awesome! [Re: BloodKil]
#18426185 - 06/16/13 03:15 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poisoned has the right idea.
I've personally done almost exactly as what was posted in the OP. LC inoculated bags of WBS/coir. The bags were sterilized, but not mixed up. All of the grain was left on the top of the bag, with the substrate under it. The LC colonized the WBS without issue, and then the bags were broken up and shaken.
Slightly slower overall colonization ensued and then invitro fruiting.
It was quite awhile back, I didn't document or photograph any of it. But I can say first hand that this method will work for cubes. Assuming you have a tried and true, clean LC anyway.
Seems like I remember someone calling this method a "Carlito bag", though I'm not sure on that.
Edited by wildernessjunkie (06/16/13 03:29 AM)
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sansa

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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: cronicr]
#18431589 - 06/17/13 11:34 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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cronicr said: just to clear the air here sansa nobody gave you bad advise, you just never included enough details right from the start, you never mentioned the lc until it was time for you to start name calling
Actually you're right. I thought I had mentioned the use of LC in the first post but it wasn't until the second post that LC was mentioned. So you are entirely right and I was wrong. I apologize to both you and Stropharis for not having described what I intended to do in the OP completely.
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sansa

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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: Stropharis]
#18431599 - 06/17/13 11:38 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stropharis said: This isn't the first time you have made it clear how big of a Douche you are sansa.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18135103/fpart/7/vc/1
You got your panties up in a bunch for no reason again.
I apologize to both you and Stropharis for not having described the use of LC in the OP. That link doesn't go anywhere?
Edited by sansa (06/17/13 12:00 PM)
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sansa

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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: poisoned]
#18431603 - 06/17/13 11:39 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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poisoned said: Maybe you could layer coir and wbs in a bag, so you would have bottom layer of coir and wbs on top. That way you could get good colonization of wbs before you mix the bag and "spawn to bulk"
Sorry if this is a stupid question, I'm a noob.
That sounds like it could work although I would be very nervous about the moist coir sitting there doing nothing, possibly growing bacteria while the wbs colonized.
Edited by sansa (06/17/13 11:58 AM)
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Hobart Cutter
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Re: Will WBS+coir bags fruit directly? [Re: sansa]
#18431747 - 06/17/13 12:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the things you have to keep in mind with coir in this situation are: A, Go easy on the water. Coir can easily hold enough to drown a weak culture, and still feel kind of dry to the touch. Give it a good squeeze as you load it in. B, Make an "injection site". A golf ball sized clump of grain where the culture can start off. C, Don't max out the bags. I recently did this mistake with grass seed. Just because a bag can hold 2.5 lbs of substrate does not make it a good idea. It works for rye but it's basically too difficult to keep denser substrates aerated.
Those are my 2c and it's all just hear say.
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