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Offlinewingnutx
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A Japanese View of the Palestinians
    #1834170 - 08/20/03 05:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)


A Japanese View of the Palestinians by Yashiko Sagamori

If you are so sure that "Palestine, the country, goes back through most of recorded history", I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine:

When was it founded and by whom?

What were its borders?

What was its capital?

What were its major cities?

What constituted the basis of its economy?

What was its form of government?

Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?

Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?

What was the language of the country of Palestine?

What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?

What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.

And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

You are lamenting the "low sinking" of a "once proud" nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that "nation" proud and what was it so proud of?

And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call "Palestinians" are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over or thrown out of the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?

I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day "Palestinians" to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won't work here.

The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it "the Palestinian people" and installed it in Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the "West Bank" and Gaza, respectively?

The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood than that Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them. The so called "Palestinians" have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel, and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation" or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled.

In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East. Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in their war against Israel and, as the losing side should, pay Israel reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have visited on it. The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the land of Israel and accepting Israel's ancient sovereignty over Gaza, Judea, and Samaria.

That will mark the end of the Palestinian people. What are you saying again was its beginning?

You are absolutely correct in your understanding of the "Palestinians" murderous motives. I am afraid however that you, along with 99% of the population of this planet have missed the beginning of WWIII (the enemy call it Jihad) quite a few years ago. The siege of the US embassy in Tehran in 1979, an event to which the latest Nobel Peace Prize winner had so miserably failed to respond, can be very well used as the day WWIII stepped out of the pages of the Koran and into the current events.

I pray the United States and Israel lead the world to victory in this war. Come to think of it, there is no choice, be you a Christian, or even, believe it or not, a Muslim.




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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834192 - 08/20/03 05:45 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Very perceptive opinion peice there as well.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834315 - 08/20/03 06:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Nice article.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834469 - 08/20/03 07:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

nice read


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834486 - 08/20/03 07:13 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: 


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: ]
    #1834619 - 08/20/03 07:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

wtf? how is that a "A Japanese View of the Palestinians"



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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1834640 - 08/20/03 07:59 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe because a Japanese guy wrote it.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: shakta]
    #1834776 - 08/20/03 08:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

shakta writes:

Maybe because a Japanese guy wrote it.

More likely a Japanese woman. If I recall correctly, "Yashiko" is a woman's name.

On the other hand, it may have been written by a Hasidic Jew from Queens who just has a non-traditional name. Assumptions can be dangerous! *sarcasm*

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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834885 - 08/20/03 09:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

"The so called "Palestinians" have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel, and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation" or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled.


If someone wrote an article saying "the so called "Israelis" have only one motivation: the destruction of Palestine", it would be equally believeable. Some people hold these views. Most don't.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: shakta]
    #1834887 - 08/20/03 09:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Maybe because a Japanese guy wrote it.




One guy speaks for a whole country? Who made this guy dictator?


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: monoamine]
    #1834905 - 08/20/03 09:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

it is titled "A Japanese View", not "THE Japanese View".


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834938 - 08/20/03 09:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What's him being Japanese have anything to do with the article? It's pretty much like he implied that he was speaking for Japanese people as a whole. *

*The proceeding post was a view on the thread by a white American.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: monoamine]
    #1834955 - 08/20/03 09:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

A view from a Japanese person is a Japanese view.

The author probably stated that becase Japan is not noted for having a great stake in the conflict.

I don't think anyone else interpreted that as being the official view of the Japanese people.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1834990 - 08/20/03 09:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the title can be a bit misleading. I was expecting some kind of unique Japanese perspective on the conflict.

if I wrote an opinion piece, I wouldn't call it an "American view", it would just be an individual opinion. I'm not sure why he chose to use that title since it had no bearing on what he's talking about.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1835002 - 08/20/03 09:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Like what? Some sort of analogy about cherry blossoms and bushido?

I guess he could have left it in Japanese, but then none of us could have read it.


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: wingnutx]
    #1835092 - 08/20/03 10:09 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

shouldn't the title of an article have something to do with the content?
I was expecting something else, not a straight opinion piece.

btw, do you have a source for that article?


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Re: A Japanese View of the Palestinians [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1835234 - 08/20/03 10:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Sadly, I do not.



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